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impala454
post Jun 19 2006, 09:48 AM
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I'm not for the KKK in any way shape or form, but did anyone else see the news story on this last night? Basically about 10-15 KKK members just kinda chillin with a few signs behind a fenced off area, and all these crazy ass hippie liberals came up startin shit and got all crazy and the riot police had to arrest a bunch of em. Of course the hippies blame the police and blah blah blah. Anyhow it was just kinda ironic to me that the extreme liberals (who are always holding "peaceful" rallies & protests because free speech is so important to them) couldn't let someone else with different views & interests have their own rally. Besides... one of the best ways to spoil someone else's rally/protest is to ignore it.
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post Jun 19 2006, 09:58 AM
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Didn't see the news story, but that sort of shit pisses me off too (violent protests against peaceful protests).


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post Jun 19 2006, 09:59 AM
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I don't like the KKK, but they get the right to free speech too.

And the liberal "peaceful" protestors starting shit with the KKK, how ironic.
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i dont know sometimes i just enjoy getting in a fight?!


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post Jun 19 2006, 11:06 AM
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It was a peaceful protest but they began blaring nazi propaganda over the loudspeaker. Then some hippie liberals started throwing shit over the fence at them and the riot police were called in. There was even a black lady that was yelling and screaming at the liberal protestors because of their douchebaggish behavior.


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post Jun 19 2006, 11:36 AM
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Haha from the way impala described it I imagined a bunch of guys in hoods with lawn chairs drinking beer


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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 19 2006, 09:48 AM)
Besides... one of the best ways to spoil someone else's rally/protest is to ignore it.

I wish people would do that with the Westboro Baptist Church. But instead people do the opposite and further inflate its members' sense of self-worth.

On the other hand, when Fred Phelps dies I kind of want to hold a WBC-style protest at his funeral the way he did at soldiers' funerals.
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post Jun 19 2006, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE (Ostar @ Jun 19 2006, 12:36 PM)
Haha from the way impala described it I imagined a bunch of guys in hoods with lawn chairs drinking beer

heh some of the news footage looked exactly like that. according to the news the hippies started throwing shit even before the kkk speaker guy started.
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post Jun 19 2006, 12:18 PM
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i think this is the midland newspaper:
http://www.mywesttexas.com/site/news.cfm?n...id=475626&rfi=6

and heheh... found this on google... "radicalendar"
http://www.radicalendar.org/calendar/all/a...date=2006-06-17
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post Jun 19 2006, 01:19 PM
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Those hipies should do what the black people do, wear earplugs and ignore them.

If I opened a circle KKK, could i have segragated gas pumps?


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post Jun 19 2006, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 19 2006, 12:18 PM)
i think this is the midland newspaper:
http://www.mywesttexas.com/site/news.cfm?n...id=475626&rfi=6

and heheh... found this on google... "radicalendar"
http://www.radicalendar.org/calendar/all/a...date=2006-06-17

YES! That was her! Betty Crisp is a neat lady. She was yelling at the ARA protestors for causing a riot.


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post Jun 19 2006, 02:06 PM
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post Jun 19 2006, 02:18 PM
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If I opened a circle KKK, could i have segragated gas pumps?

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Fuck not doing anything, I'd beat the shit out of KKK members if they showed up in my town. It'll teach them not to fucking come back. On top of that when people dont' do anything they just get bigger in size until they start doing shit. Now if it were a bunch of mexicans or something that started fighting the klan then it'd be a big rally cry for the klan, but if it's a bunch of white people they're just going to get their ass kicked and no one's going to move to their side.

As far as those assholes at the funerals, sure all the protesting on opposite sides of the street causes a big controversy. If like 500 people got together and actually ran across the street and beat the shit out of them it'd be a big news story for about 2 days, then all the assholes would be in the hospital and not be able to protest for another couple months which would be a victory in my opinion.
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post Jun 19 2006, 03:19 PM
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Fuck not doing anything, I'd beat the shit out of KKK members if they showed up in my town. It'll teach them not to fucking come back.

Wow. How mature. dry.gif


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post Jun 19 2006, 03:23 PM
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I've really always kinda wondered why anyone would wanna waste their energy being a racist KKK member when they'd do far more good cleaning up dog shit at the pound or picking up trash on highways, but I guess making sense just isn't some people's cup of tea rolleyes.gif


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post Jun 19 2006, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 19 2006, 03:19 PM)
Wow. How mature. dry.gif

it is also mature to wear your bedsheets and declare yourself the master race because country bumpkins from alabama decades ago did so.
i dont think KKK members are trying to win a battle of maturity


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post Jun 19 2006, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 19 2006, 04:25 PM)
it is also mature to wear your bedsheets and declare yourself the master race because country bumpkins from alabama decades ago did so.
i dont think KKK members are trying to win a battle of maturity

Well in this case they were protesting illegal immigration and I commend them for it. Yeah, their normal KKK activities may be retarded, but as long as they're peacefully protesting stuff, I think it's ridiculous to threaten to beat them up.


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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 19 2006, 05:59 PM)
Well in this case they were protesting illegal immigration and I commend them for it. Yeah, their normal KKK activities may be retarded, but as long as they're peacefully protesting stuff, I think it's ridiculous to threaten to beat them up.

i might not like white people but you dont see me taking railroad spikes and hammers to all their heads.

you gotta be peaceful about their hate. until they fuck with you. then you get it all out end them.


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post Jun 19 2006, 05:06 PM
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sometimes i just wanna bust some heads, ya know what i mean!?


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post Jun 19 2006, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 19 2006, 06:06 PM)
sometimes i just wanna bust some heads, ya know what i mean!?

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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 19 2006, 03:19 PM)
Wow. How mature. dry.gif

man I'm glad that the KKK wouldn't come back because everyone's so mature. If you guys are seriously so hippie that you won't beat up a KKK member then you've lost touch with your values. Words don't win battles.

Fuck commending KKK members on doing anything. I don't give a shit what they're protesting they're still a sorry mistake for human beings.
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post Jun 19 2006, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (prefix @ Jun 19 2006, 11:59 PM)
they're still a sorry mistake for human beings.

as are members of the aclu, league of women voters, naacp, the mexican-american legal defense and education fund, la raza, and all the other equally bigoted organizations
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post Jun 19 2006, 11:20 PM
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I want to know why they couldn't protest in San Angelo, why did they feel motivated to go to Midland.


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funny how there aren't kkk rallies in el paso

that'd be interesting to see


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QUOTE (prefix @ Jun 19 2006, 10:59 PM)
man I'm glad that the KKK wouldn't come back because everyone's so mature. If you guys are seriously so hippie that you won't beat up a KKK member then you've lost touch with your values. Words don't win battles.

I would shoot one of those motherfuckers if they started some shitty racial violence. But GODDAMMIT they have the same fucking rights as any other American to protest/say WHATEVER the fuck they want in public WHENEVER the fuck they want and I think it's pretty fucking pathetic for some jackass like yourself to say that you'd beat them up based on their organizational affilition rather than their specific actions.

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post Jun 20 2006, 12:28 AM
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When did hippies start beating up people?


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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jun 19 2006, 11:11 PM)
as are members of the aclu, league of women voters, naacp, the mexican-american legal defense and education fund, la raza, and all the other equally bigoted organizations

hmmmmmmmm, well none of those groups go and hang people now do they?

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I would shoot one of those motherfuckers if they started some shitty racial violence. But GODDAMMIT they have the same fucking rights as any other American to protest/say WHATEVER the fuck they want in public WHENEVER the fuck they want


Yea, and when you say something you should expect that if you piss people off they're going to beat your ass. If I walk into a marine base with a shirt that says marines take it up the ass because they're all a bunch of pieces of shit; I would expect to get my ass thoroughly beat.

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and I think it's pretty fucking pathetic for some jackass like yourself to say that you'd beat them up based on their organizational affilition rather than their specific actions.

I'm sure there's lots of members of the KKK that aren't racist and don't believe that everyone except white people should be erased from the earth. I mean why would anyone that hates people to the point of killing them want to join the KKK. That's just obserd.

If you don't do anything about them they'll eventually get bigger and gain more people. Then people won't see them as outcasts and they'll become socially acceptable like they have done time and time again over the past century. I dunno, if I saw a bunch of KKK members getting their asses beat by a lot of people that'd certainly discourage my membership thoughts.
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As a social experiment, I think I'll go out tomorrow, stand in the middle of Texas ave and start singing "fuck the police" in a normal voice, without threatening violence to anyone and just see what happens, because that's my opinion.


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post Jun 20 2006, 01:17 AM
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Seriously, do what that other group did. Make nooone show up to their rally, in fact just ignore it completly and tell people to stay away from it and have a counter rally. It would make those guys feel dumb if they got no response from the community.

Westboro people on the other hand, going to a funeral. That is a load of shit and I wish someone would throw a stone at one of them.


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Yes I'm with Fingercuffs on that one, I want to go to Phelps' funeral with a big sign thanking God for his death.

Then I'd like to let maturity and Arouet's ideas go out the window and start a boot party, stomping this bitch's face repeatedly:




She looks like she's had her face stomped a few times already. And I think I still see a bruise or two from the time Hannity owned her ass on national television. laugh.gif


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QUOTE (prefix @ Jun 20 2006, 01:44 AM)
hmmmmmmmm, well none of those groups go and hang people now do they?

no, they just wipe their asses with the constitution and waste billions of taxpayer dollars, but hey


i guess destroying a country from within its own borders isn't as bad as peacefully demonstrating. and how many decades ago was the last time the kkk hanged somebody?
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jun 20 2006, 05:45 AM)
no, they just wipe their asses with the constitution and waste billions of taxpayer dollars, but hey


i guess destroying a country from within its own borders isn't as bad as peacefully demonstrating.  and how many decades ago was the last time the kkk hanged somebody?


Destroying the country from within can not be that bad, Bush has been doing it for awhile.


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Moral of the post... the hippies don't care about free speech, and they only have rallies to cause trouble, forcing the govt to intervene, so they can then cry about what the govt does.

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1. Hippie holds rally with highly controversial subject, gets hundreds of other hippies to show up.

2. Hippie knows the subject is controversial enough to get violence out of at least some people.

3. Hippie knows that starting petty violence will result in videos on the news of hippies being beat down by riot police.

4. Hippie uses this type of video as an "example" of the govt curtailing their free speech rights.
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On second thought, I just went to the official KKK website... all of their members should be drawn and quartered for choosing a webmaster who is apparently the equivalent of a 13-year-old with ADD, a geocities account, and html knowledge gleaned from a few furitive glances at "HTML for Dummies" in Barnes & Noble. *shudders*

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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 20 2006, 10:44 AM)
On second thought, I just went to the official KKK website... all of their members should be drawn and quartered for choosing a webmaster who is apparently the equivalent of a 13-year-old with ADD, a geocities account, and html knowledge gleaned from a few furitive glances at "HTML for Dummies" in Barnes & Noble. *shudders*

probably because they are all white trash who cant use computers, and all companies taht make web sites probably told them to fuck off since they didnt want their name on the website


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attempting to incite violence, public disruption, blocking traffic, loitering, jaywalking are what most tickets/arrests are for in protest occasions. if you were able to somehow control all those aspects with a large group of people then no cops could stop you... theoretically. but there is no place in america where you can do that


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 20 2006, 01:42 PM)
if you were able to somehow control all those aspects with a large group of people then no cops could stop you... theoretically. but there is no place in america where you can do that

right, and you also wouldn't get news coverage and publicity wink.gif
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i want to go somewhere and be so obnxious the police are called yet they cant do anything about it. i must find this place and then a cause to protest
and whos to say this place isnt in some park thats got the perfect amount of space and zoning


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QUOTE (Spivey @ Jun 20 2006, 08:25 AM)
Destroying the country from within can not be that bad, Bush has been doing it for awhile.

and clinton, and bush sr., and reagan, and carter


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post Jun 20 2006, 04:46 PM
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To those defending the KKK's right to "protest": Isn't the Klan a registered terrorist organization?

So would you support Al Quaeda's right to protest...hmmmm, say Christianity or Bush on the streets of midwestern America?

Oh that's right: White people can't be terrorists! Gotta protect those white "Americans" (Nobody in the KKK is an American to me). Remember: the face of terrorism today is only brown.



And yeah, fuck the hippies for actually getting violent...but hell I probably couldn't resist either if terrorists were camped in my backyard.


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post Jun 20 2006, 04:48 PM
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post Jun 20 2006, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 04:46 PM)
To those defending the KKK's right to "protest": Isn't the Klan a registered terrorist organization?

Pretty sure not, but I don't feel like researching it right now to find out for sure.

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So would you support Al Quaeda's right to protest...hmmmm, say Christianity or Bush on the streets of midwestern America?

Umm, yes? If it's a peaceful protest, whoever can protest whatever they want for all I care. And by peaceful I mean both not being violent themselves and not provoking others (like shouting racial epithets, for instance).

I don't agree with the KKK's agenda, but I also don't think that all of their members are necessarily mobbing, lynching murderers. Many of them may be violent towards minorities, but thinking that they all are is just as fallacious as assuming that all fundie Christians bomb abortion clinics.


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post Jun 20 2006, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 05:46 PM)
To those defending the KKK's right to "protest": Isn't the Klan a registered terrorist organization?

So would you support Al Quaeda's right to protest...hmmmm, say Christianity or Bush on the streets of midwestern America?

I didn't know terrorists organizations were registered, but I wouldn't give two shits about what any organization thinks about anything. Which is why you'll never find me spending a nice saturday afternoon holding up signs trying to convince others to see things my way. I enjoy debating but not when it requires that much effort.

QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 05:46 PM)
Oh that's right: White people can't be terrorists! Gotta protect those white "Americans" (Nobody in the KKK is an American to me). Remember: the face of terrorism today is only brown.

Timothy McVeigh? Ted Kaczynski?
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post Jun 20 2006, 05:07 PM
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Hate speech though...come on, that's pretty fucked up to let it go on anywhere, anytime. Would you let the KKK preach against minorities outside of an inner-city elementary school?

By "registered terrorist organization" I mean officially on the list of terrorist organizations as recognized by the government. It has been since the 1871 Civil Rights/KKK Act.

Impala: I said the face of terrorism today, silly!
That comment you quoted was more sarcastic than anything else.

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post Jun 20 2006, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE (Spivey @ Jun 20 2006, 05:48 PM)
Yawn

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post Jun 20 2006, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 05:07 PM)
Hate speech though...come on, that's pretty fucked up to let it go on anywhere, anytime. Would you let the KKK preach against minorities outside of an inner-city elementary school?

They were protesting illegal immigration. There may have been hate speech involved, there may not. No, I wouldn't let them preach against minorities outside of an inner-city elementary school because that would be INCITING VIOLENCE. Shit, Zach, I know damn well that you know the difference between a peaceful protest and a hateful/violent one.

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By "registered terrorist organization" I mean officially on the list of terrorist organizations as recognized by the government. It has been since the 1871 Civil Rights/KKK Act.

As far as I can tell, that act gave blacks legal recourse against all-white courts that were reluctant to prosecute KKK members for lynchings. That doesn't mean it was put down on a list somewhere as a registered terrorist organization. In fact, it doesn't look like the Klan is mentioned in the text of the act itself, only the title: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_Act_of_1871. In fact, Wikipedia says:

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In 1882, long after the end of the first Klan, the Supreme Court ruled in United States vs. Harris that the Klan Act was partially unconstitutional, saying that Congress's power under the fourteenth amendment did not extend to private conspiracies.

Besides, the modern Klan is a different organization than that targeted by the 1871 act.

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post Jun 20 2006, 06:55 PM
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There may have been hate speech involved, there may not.

Herm, it's the klan; I'm betting on the fact that there was.


On another note why did everyone jump on the violent hippie bandwagon. I said everyone was so hippy for not wanting to kick some ass, not that hippies were violent.
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post Jun 20 2006, 09:27 PM
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God damn are you people stupid.

Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up.


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post Jun 20 2006, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Jun 20 2006, 10:27 PM)
God damn are you people stupid.

Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up.

best arguement EVER.


Damn, just broke my sarcasm meter.

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post Jun 20 2006, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Jun 20 2006, 09:27 PM)
God damn are you people stupid.

Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up.

forgot your comma !


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post Jun 20 2006, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Jun 20 2006, 09:27 PM)
God damn are you people stupid.

Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up.

Interpretation?


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post Jun 21 2006, 12:23 AM
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Please do this.
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post Jun 21 2006, 01:24 AM
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i don't think there is ENOUGH hate speech



what happened to the good for many outweighing the good of a few?



everyone having to adjust their opinions because it MAY offend 1 person is stupid.



don't censor yourself because some jackass can't deal with the fact you don't like him


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post Jun 21 2006, 05:49 AM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 21 2006, 02:24 AM)
i don't think there is ENOUGH hate speech



what happened to the good for many outweighing the good of a few?



everyone having to adjust their opinions because it MAY offend 1 person is stupid.



don't censor yourself because some jackass can't deal with the fact you don't like him

damn fucking straight, bacon man


the first amendment wasn't written to protect nonoffensive speech, it is mean to protect what some people feel is offensive (see: hateful) speech, no matter how distasteful hippies or minorities think it is.
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post Jun 21 2006, 08:54 AM
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while i'm sure there was some racial bigotry going on from the KKK, their intent was to speak out against the immigration policy, which is a hot topic. the hippies might have done themselves good to actually have some counter-opinion rally on that subject rather than just going there as a mob to try to "drown out" others opinions.
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