The Post Go Too Far? Options

[Hartmann]

So, did they?

[Seeker]

well... even though zarqawi is a made up boogeyman so the u.s. gov has a scapegoat it's still f'in funny

and hopefully will piss off muslims

[moebary]

So, did they?

no

[jonathan83]

wow i actually thought this was a joke until i saw the image location.
hah!

[kcroxyoursox]

i think the whole thing about showing the dead body is going too far in general. its one of those things that you dont have to see to believe (based on the myriad ways the govt has proven a positive id other than it physically looking like him), and i dont think it makes the story any better.

the caption on the other hand is uncalled for and awful - imo it was meant to be humorous, but it blatantly mocks ALL individuals that follow that particular faith regardless of if their terrorists or law abiding citizens.

theyll get a lot of backlash both from the picture and the caption.

[Timbo]

i think the whole thing about showing the dead body is going too far in general. its one of those things that you dont have to see to believe (based on the myriad ways the govt has proven a positive id other than it physically looking like him), and i dont think it makes the story any better.

the caption on the other hand is uncalled for and awful - imo it was meant to be humorous, but it blatantly mocks ALL individuals that follow that particular faith regardless of if their terrorists or law abiding citizens.

theyll get a lot of backlash both from the picture and the caption.

You will watch this to the end - http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/06/060506.html#

You will then get the fuck over yourself.

You will then be a total bitch about it.

Carry on

Edit: And no, the Post didn't go too far so much as they were just lame about it. Surely they could've thought of something better than a fucking speech bubble. Humourous yes, but plays down the significance of what's happened. Not cool, in my opinion, but whatchagonnado. THE PRESS OBVIOUSLY KNOWS BEST O_O_O_O_O

Timbo

[GOB]

i think the whole thing about showing the dead body is going too far in general. its one of those things that you dont have to see to believe (based on the myriad ways the govt has proven a positive id other than it physically looking like him), and i dont think it makes the story any better.

the caption on the other hand is uncalled for and awful - imo it was meant to be humorous, but it blatantly mocks ALL individuals that follow that particular faith regardless of if their terrorists or law abiding citizens.

theyll get a lot of backlash both from the picture and the caption.

i think it's very necessary to show these pieces of shit dead. i don't think showing the body goes too far at all. people want to see them pay for what they've done. nobody will ever believe that they've killed osama until they actually see his dead ass. the caption is hilarious. i really don't think the new york post cares if they piss off more fundamentalists-- hell, this gives them an actual reason to hate us.

and they show dead iraqis on tv all the time. it's nothing new. if half of his head had been blown off, maybe it would have been too gruesome for the front page, but they have bloodier stuff on CSI every night.




but i agree that there is going to be a backlash, not because of the picture, but because we killed him. i heard a couple of "experts" (ha, everybody's an expert on tv and the internet) saying that zarqawi had been more focused on civil war than attacking american troops, so things might change now that he's gone.

[Spectatrix]

You will watch this to the end - http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/06/060506.html#

You will then get the fuck over yourself.

You will then be a total bitch about it.

Carry on

Timbo: Being a douche so you don't have to.

I don't think that showing his body was over the line, but the speech bubble most definitely was. It had little to do with Al-Zarqawi specifically, but instead is offensive to ALL muslims. Pitiful.

[Xentither]

Timbo: Being a douche so you don't have to.

I don't think that showing his body was over the line, but the speech bubble most definitely was. It had little to do with Al-Zarqawi specifically, but instead is offensive to ALL muslims. Pitiful.

once again good old organized religion misleads the public in order that some facist can take advantage of them.

To quote Robin Williams:

So if you kill and infidel, and, you die,you go to paradise and recieve 72 vigins, well some experts are saying that the translation is incorrect, it's not 72 bown-haired virgins, it's 72.... crystal clear raisins. 'where are my bitches!' 'Here are your raisins!'


So, in other words, The virgin thing is, in my opinion, a desperate ploy by terrorists to get lonely ,confused, and desperate emo muslim kids to go blow themselves up. How do you get a frustrated male virgin to blow himself up on a bus? Tell him God will hook him up, guaranteed!

It's the oldest ploy in the book, fuck around with a biblical translation, start selling it, get a bunch of people all kinds of suckered over.

Good job post, not only are you mocking muslims, but your also mocking the pathetic lengths religion has gone in order to control people.

[pebkac]

It's the oldest ploy in the book, fuck around with a biblical translation, start selling it, get a bunch of people all kinds of suckered over.

It's kinda hard to mess with the translation of the quran when most muslims already speak the language it's written in.

[Divergent Realit...]

It's kinda hard to mess with the translation of the quran when most muslims already speak the language it's written in.

im no linguist but languages do change. the meaning of certain phrases shifts over time. so there could be confusion and debate over what was said and how they said it.

[Psykopath]

Plus, fanatics tend to pull quotes and use them way out of context.

[Timbo]

once again good old organized religion misleads the public in order that some facist can take advantage of them.

To quote Robin Williams:

So if you kill and infidel, and, you die,you go to paradise and recieve 72 vigins, well some experts are saying that the translation is incorrect, it's not 72 bown-haired virgins, it's 72.... crystal clear raisins. 'where are my bitches!' 'Here are your raisins!'


So, in other words, The virgin thing is, in my opinion, a desperate ploy by terrorists to get lonely ,confused, and desperate emo muslim kids to go blow themselves up. How do you get a frustrated male virgin to blow himself up on a bus? Tell him God will hook him up, guaranteed!

It's the oldest ploy in the book, fuck around with a biblical translation, start selling it, get a bunch of people all kinds of suckered over.

Good job post, not only are you mocking muslims, but your also mocking the pathetic lengths religion has gone in order to control people.

You're using Sociology; using it well too. Bonus Points =o

Timbo

[jonathan83]

It had little to do with Al-Zarqawi specifically, but instead is offensive to ALL muslims. Pitiful.

not ALL muslims, just the ones who are terrorists and kill. because i think the 14 virgins or whatever only comes into play if kill the enemy and die during the jihad or whatever, right?

[Spectatrix]

Whether or not a muslim plans to die in a jihad to get virgins, it's still a part of their faith and thus offensive to mock. If I were still Catholic, I'd be offended if some newspaper showed a picture of a priest with the speech bubble "bring on the little boys" or something similar.

[Divergent Realit...]

Whether or not a muslim plans to die in a jihad to get virgins, it's still a part of their faith and thus offensive to mock. If I were still Catholic, I'd be offended if some newspaper showed a picture of a priest with the speech bubble "bring on the little boys" or something similar.

but pedophelia is funnier than cherry poppin'

[Spectatrix]

but pedophelia is funnier than cherry poppin'

They both have their moments of greatness.

[Timbo]

Whether or not a muslim plans to die in a jihad to get virgins, it's still a part of their faith and thus offensive to mock. If I were still Catholic, I'd be offended if some newspaper showed a picture of a priest with the speech bubble "bring on the little boys" or something similar.

Explain to me how offensive = going to far.

Timbo

[pebkac]

Generally speaking, it's a bad idea for a publication to offend their readership.

[FORSAKENR320]

They both have their moments of greatness.

combine the 2 and you got fun for everyone




except the toddler

[FORSAKENR320]

Explain to me how offensive = going to far.

Timbo

it's like sexual harassment. it's only harrassment if the girl isn't attracted to you

[Divergent Realit...]

combine the 2 and you got fun for everyone




except the toddler

at that scale its not so much cherry poppin as getting split from stem to stern.

[Spectatrix]

Explain to me how offensive = going to far.

Timbo

It doesn't, necessarily. From my perspective, the Post went too far, but that's much more subjective than saying that something is offensive.

[Timbo]

it's like sexual harassment. it's only harrassment if the girl isn't attracted to you

Ah.

Timbo

[jonathan83]

Whether or not a muslim plans to die in a jihad to get virgins, it's still a part of their faith and thus offensive to mock. If I were still Catholic, I'd be offended if some newspaper showed a picture of a priest with the speech bubble "bring on the little boys" or something similar.

haha, so you're saying the little boys are part of the Catholic faith?

[woody]

eh, the onyl thing the news media is good for is writing whatever they want, no matter how offensive it may be and then saying freedom of press/speech.