Vince Young is Mentally Retarded Options

[TTULow2]

The Slow Bus? 2-25-06

There is a rumor going around (started by a NFL website)
that Vince Young scored 6 out of 50 on his Wonderlic
test (a form of an IQ test). Normally I am not one to
put much stock into IQ tests as a measurement of ones
intelligence, but after taking the 15 question sample
test on ESPN.com and getting 13 out of 15 correct it
seems impossible to me unless someone has a mental
disability that they would score only 6 out of 50.
You would have to be the slow yellow school bus dumb
to score 6 out of 50. You have to be trade for Steve
Francis when you already have Falling Starbury dumb
to get that low of score.

Click Here To Take Sample Test

Once again this is just a rumor and obviously book
smarts are not the #1 characteristic of being a football
player, but it would concern me if a QB I was considering
drafting in the top 5 only scored a 6. I believe an 8th
grader could score a 6 on this test, so either someone is
just trying to tarnish Vince’s name or he is extremely
stupid. What does it mean for his draft status? The
alleged source (I still have a hard time believing he
scored a 6) says he could fall out of the first round
which makes me wonder if this is really legit or not.
I will keep you informed as I find out more info.

This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Feb 26 2006, 12:27 AM

[JRockTTU]

I saw in a magazine, had to be either maxim or playboy, that McNabb had one of the worst grades on the Wonderlic also.

[HMWH]

the test is racist.


Drew Henson had one of the best scores ever

[James]

I took that practice test. Got a 13 out of 15. I rushed through the profit question and screwed up the ratio. And the daylight question.

Anyway, I don't really see how any of that is going to matter as to whether someone can play good football or not. If I were a manager, I wouldn't even consider the test at face value. What I would consider is if they attempted to answer it to the best of their ability or if they just put down random answers to get it over with. That would show me if they're willing to give full effort, no matter how pointless the task may seem.

[cmac]

i heard his teammates call him 'radio' because he's so stupid.

[Rocky]

His job is to read defenses and perform physically. He's damn good at it too.


Who the fuck actually believes IQ tests anyways ? I think it may have validity with mouth breathin droolinites and determining if they can take care of themselves or require additional aid....but shit man !

[Throwdown]

His job is to read defenses and perform physically. He's damn good at it too.


Who the fuck actually believes IQ tests anyways ? I think it may have validity with mouth breathin droolinites and determining if they can take care of themselves or require additional aid....but shit man !

yes

his teammates never called him radio btw, it was started where else on texags

[schwab]

wow a rumor said that....yes must assume its true

[cmac]

yeah, sounds exactly like something some aggie would start

[Rocky]

Its only one account, but I know a guy who said he's had classes with Young at UT. He said he is a good student who participates and does all his work.


He also said Aaron Harris is a dick, and rude in class.


take it for what its worth

[GOB]

i heard his teammates call him 'radio' because he's so stupid.

awesome

[Mommy]

Its only one account, but I know a guy who said he's had classes with Young at UT. He said he is a good student who participates and does all his work.

I heard the same thing actually.

[Jyan]

Its only one account, but I know a guy who said he's had classes with Young at UT. He said he is a good student who participates and does all his work.


He also said Aaron Harris is a dick, and rude in class.


take it for what its worth

Participation and work-doing does not make a person smart.

It makes a person a good student.

Being a good student and being smart are not always the same thing.

[Testm0nkey]

id think being a good student is more important in the end. he could work his ass of in classes for all we know maybe he tries his hardest. nothing but admirable for that. and like rocky said he could in fact be mentally retarded hes a great football player and that seems to be the direction his life is going

[Jyan]

id think being a good student is more important in the end. he could work his ass of in classes for all we know maybe he tries his hardest. nothing but admirable for that. and like rocky said he could in fact be mentally retarded hes a great football player and that seems to be the direction his life is going

I'm not saying it's not. Being a good student is more often than not more important than being smart. Just saying they're not necessarily the same.

[Testm0nkey]

but it would be great to see a slobbering idiot play some mean ball

[Throwdown]

raise your hand if you've done any of the following:

-won two Rose Bowl MVP's
-won a National Championship
-gone 30-2 as a starter for a major D1 college football program
-got drafted #3 overall in the NFL
-recieved a $10 mil signing bonus from your employer
-signed a contract for $50 mil to work


anyone?

[Seussninja]

raise your hand if you've done any of the following:

-won two Rose Bowl MVP's
-won a National Championship
-gone 30-2 as a starter for a major D1 college football program
-got drafted #3 overall in the NFL
-recieved a $10 mil signing bonus from your employer
-signed a contract for $50 mil to work


anyone?

no
yes
43-0
#5 =\
8 mil
45 mil


IVE GOTTEN CLOSE

[Throwdown]

no
yes
43-0
#5 =\
8 mil
45 mil


IVE GOTTEN CLOSE

Ki Jana Carter?

is that you?

[HMWH]

my two favorite websites

www.vinceyoungisretarded.com

www.mynameiswillandisuckVyoungsdick.com

[Aaron]

Whoever leaked the score got it wrong and was, apparently, fired. When the news of Young's score first surfaced, the tests hadn't been graded yet. Young's correct score, from what I've heard, is more around 16... though it hasn't been released publicly yet.

[prefix]

id think being a good student is more important in the end. he could work his ass of in classes for all we know maybe he tries his hardest. nothing but admirable for that.

Yea, well a kid with downs syndrome that tries his hardest is still fucking retarded.

[woody]

raise your hand if you've done any of the following:

-won two Rose Bowl MVP's
-won a National Championship
-gone 30-2 as a starter for a major D1 college football program
-got drafted #3 overall in the NFL
-recieved a $10 mil signing bonus from your employer
-signed a contract for $50 mil to work


anyone?

raise your hand if you you can put the round peg in the round hole


not so fast there vince...you can put your hand down for now.

and put that hammer away, no hammering the round peg in the square hole

[Testm0nkey]

Yea, well a kid with downs syndrome that tries his hardest is still fucking retarded.

thats why itd be funny to see them play football

[JRockTTU]

They have been reporting on ESPN Radio all morning that he got a 6 the first time around and a 16 when he took the test the second time. The test score is important because it is a QB's job to have good comprehension and retention, as well as problem solving skills. If a guy can't figure out a pattern like 8, 4, 2, 1/2, 1/4, ?? then chances are he can't read a complicated defense and adapt to it on the fly playing against 11 guys who are just as physically gifted as he is.

[nickluto]

-got drafted #3 overall in the NFL
-recieved a $10 mil signing bonus from your employer
-signed a contract for $50 mil to work

not so fast on these 3.


why is he hurting himself like this. first screwing up his IQ test (btw, 20 on the Wonderlic is seen to be average IQ.... a score of less than 10 is indicative of literacy problems....vince young has the brainpower of a 12 year old) and now he's refusing to work out at the combine...

these two things could hurt him, probably not but if you watched last year look what happened to Aaron Rogers. everyone thought he was top 10 for sure if not the #1 pick.

that being said, he probably wont drop out of the top 10, but damn, he's not making the smartest decisions and from what i hear its mostly his unexperienced AGENT that is making these decisions..

[Throwdown]

these two things could hurt him, probably not but if you watched last year look what happened to Aaron Rogers. everyone thought he was top 10 for sure if not the #1 pick.

that being said, he probably wont drop out of the top 10, but damn, he's not making the smartest decisions.

the only reason Rodgers dropped down so far is because the team with the #1 draft pick needed a qb in a year where the qb crop was relatively weak. he literally could have either gone #1 or #15, depending on which qb the Niners picked, and due to the fact that most other teams didn't need a qb. imo neither Rodgers nor Smith will do squat in the pros.

and i'm glad to see the uppity militant ut hater who starts whining any time texas or vince young is brought up has returned. welcome back, prefix.

[nickluto]

the only reason Rodgers dropped down so far is because the team with the #1 draft pick needed a qb in a year where the qb crop was relatively weak. he literally could have either gone #1 or #15, depending on which qb the Niners picked, and due to the fact that most other teams didn't need a qb. imo neither Rodgers nor Smith will do squat in the pros.

true.

what i meant was just because the media says he will go #3 doesnt mean he will go #3.

[JRockTTU]

Aaron Rodgers went so late because he got greedy and thought he could squeeze more money than he was worth out of the niners.

[nickluto]

imo neither Rodgers nor Smith will do squat in the pros.

i agree and it's an interesting point. Smith was supposed to be one of the more intelligent QB's as far as x's and o's and how the game works, reading defensese, learning the systems, etc and everyone thought he was going to do great things in San Fran.


they went, what this year...3-14? so intelligence definitely isnt as important as athletic ability. maybe he needs more time to "learn", but i didnt see anything standout as far as rookies go.

[Throwdown]

"if i'm gonna grade Vince Young on a test, i'm gonna grade him on the Rose Bowl, not the Wunderlik"

-Dan Patrick

[Aaron]

i agree and it's an interesting point. Smith was supposed to be one of the more intelligent QB's as far as x's and o's and how the game works, reading defensese, learning the systems, etc and everyone thought he was going to do great things in San Fran.


they went, what this year...3-14? so intelligence definitely isnt as important as athletic ability. maybe he needs more time to "learn", but i didnt see anything standout as far as rookies go.

C'mon guys, typically rookies, especially at the quarterback position, don't do squat... so to say that Alex Smith is a bust or "not a standout" after him starting for less than a full season is short-sighted and altogether inaccurate. Ben Roethlisberger is far and away the exception, not the rule.

If you're just going to post for the sake of posting, pleeeeeeeease don't do it in Sports.

[Throwdown]

i never said that Aaron Rodgers or Smith was a bust. Troy Aikman went 1-15 his first season and he ended up in Canton.

i think they will be busts, though.

did you watch either in college?

Aaron Rodgers zones in on his intended receiver before he throws. he can't look off a receiver to save his life. that isn't a very good trait to have in the NFL.

as for Smith, i just don't like him. i don't think he has the capability to be a star qb in the NFL.


if these guys came out this year, they would be 4th and 5th on the qb depth chart. they benefitted from the fact that the 05 class was incredibly weak in terms of qb's. the Niners were desperate for a qb, as were the Packers

[nickluto]

C'mon guys, typically rookies, especially at the quarterback position, don't do squat... so to say that Alex Smith is a bust or "not a standout" after him starting for less than a full season is short-sighted and altogether inaccurate. Ben Roethlisberger is far and away the exception, not the rule.

If you're just going to post for the sake of posting, pleeeeeeeease don't do it in Sports.

i thought eli/payton manning, michael vick did ok...

[Aaron]

i never said that Aaron Rodgers or Smith was a bust. Troy Aikman went 1-15 his first season and he ended up in Canton.

I wasn't talking to you Will.

[jonathan83]

-got drafted #3 overall in the NFL

i thought the draft wasn't til april?

[TTULow2]

[celebritygooner]

"if i'm gonna grade Vince Young on a test, i'm gonna grade him on the Rose Bowl, not the Wunderlik"

-Dan Patrick

Can I grade him on this quote?

Some Reporter: Has USC ever faced a team like Texas?
Vince Young: They haven’t seen the different guys on our team who are gangster.

... cause I'll give him a C+

This test doesn't make or break him, but what a hillarious way to kill time until the draft.

[moebary]

I think Vince will go 3 or 7

I don't know how well he'll do in the NFL though, at least not right away

This post has been edited by moebary: Feb 27 2006, 09:47 PM

[woody]

god it's like the mike tyson of the NFL in the making

[nickluto]

Can I grade him on this quote?

Some Reporter: Has USC ever faced a team like Texas?
Vince Young: They haven’t seen the different guys on our team who are gangster.

... cause I'll give him a C+

This test doesn't make or break him, but what a hillarious way to kill time until the draft.

Reporter: When you see them on tv being hailed as one of the best college football teams in recent memory, how do you react to it? Does the media hype surrounding USC mentally affect you?

Vince Young: I dunno watchew be watching, but we watching B.E.T. We dont be watchin' no news television.

[tech109]

vince young is dumb

[celebritygooner]

Reporter: When you see them on tv being hailed as one of the best college football teams in recent memory, how do you react to it? Does the media hype surrounding USC mentally affect you?

Vince Young: I dunno watchew be watching, but we watching B.E.T. We dont be watchin' no news television.

But keeping it gangster is important.

[prefix]

According to sportscenter he got a 16 on his test not a 6. Either way he's going to flop in the NFL, look at the way he throws the ball. Did anyone else see him do the skills competition? his accuracy and distance throwing sucked.

[Seeker]

According to sportscenter he got a 16 on his test not a 6.  Either way he's going to flop in the NFL, look at the way he throws the ball. Did anyone else see him do the skills competition? his accuracy and distance throwing sucked.

the 16 was the second time he took it, and the person of average intelligence scores at least a 20

[nickluto]

the 16 was the second time he took it, and the person of average intelligence scores at least a 20

yeah, there were too many swinging chads so he demanded a recount of his retest

supreme court case pending....

[celebritygooner]

According to sportscenter he got a 16 on his test not a 6.  Either way he's going to flop in the NFL, look at the way he throws the ball. Did anyone else see him do the skills competition? his accuracy and distance throwing sucked.

Ryan Leaf and Jeff George had perfect throws, Kurt Warner has no distance and Mike Vick isn't that accurate.
Anyone who says Vince Young is going to be a flop is dogpiling on him for no reason.

I hope Vince Young's team lets him play a wide open, play-action style offense ... I am interested to see if that can work in the NFL. The only way Vince will flop is if he ends up playing for an Andy Reid or a Bill Parcells or a Bill Bellicheck, somebody who doesn't allow him to, as Justin Blalock said, "do what the man does."

Maybe even moreso than Mike Vick, Vince Young has to have an offense built around him, not the other way around.

I think he'll be good ... I just think it's hillarious in the meantime that he'd make a 6 on that test.

[moebary]

Ryan Leaf and Jeff George had perfect throws, Kurt Warner has no distance and Mike Vick isn't that accurate.
Anyone who says Vince Young is going to be a flop is dogpiling on him for no reason.

I hope Vince Young's team lets him play a wide open, play-action style offense ... I am interested to see if that can work in the NFL. The only way Vince will flop is if he ends up playing for an Andy Reid or a Bill Parcells or a Bill Bellicheck, somebody who doesn't allow him to, as Justin Blalock said, "do what the man does."

Maybe even moreso than Mike Vick, Vince Young has to have an offense built around him, not the other way around.

I think he'll be good ... I just think it's hillarious in the meantime that he'd make a 6 on that test.

The reason I don't think he'll be that good in the NFL is because I don't see an NFL team catoring an offense to him.

[celebritygooner]

Who would a weak team spend a 5ish pick on a potential franchise player who they aren't planning on building around?

[moebary]

Who would a weak team spend a 5ish pick on a potential franchise player who they aren't planning on building around?

You can't win in the NFL being one-dimensional. Vince's athletic ability will only take him so far in the NFL. There will be defensive players who will catch him and will hurt him if he runs as much as he did in college.

[celebritygooner]

You can't win in the NFL being one-dimensional. Vince's athletic ability will only take him so far in the NFL. There will be defensive players who will catch him and will hurt him if he runs as much as he did in college.

He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

[koreanp1e]

raise your hand if you've done any of the following:

-won two Rose Bowl MVP's
-won a National Championship
-gone 30-2 as a starter for a major D1 college football program
-got drafted #3 overall in the NFL
-recieved a $10 mil signing bonus from your employer
-signed a contract for $50 mil to work


anyone?

doesn't mean we can talk shit about him being a retard.

[moebary]

He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

I can see him being a successful receiver, but I just think that if Young is ever going to be a good NFL QB it will take time. Just my opinion.

I also think that him being taller than Vick is negligible considering Young's release point.

This post has been edited by moebary: Mar 1 2006, 10:28 PM

[prefix]

He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

Stop comparing him to Mike Vick. If you're willing to admit that he's going to end up like Mike Vick then comparing them is awesome(by which I mean being constantly injured because a quarterback can't run in the NFL without getting the shit beat out of him). Sure Young can see more than Vick, but the way he throws the ball gives him about the same height.

Sure the shotgun option offense isn't useless in the NFL but you better bet your quarterback's going to get fucking rocked every now and then.

[JRockTTU]

He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

Mack Brown says that the less they tried to coach him, the better he got. That's not good for a guy, saying that when you try to teach him fundamentals he gets worse.

[moebary]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ht&lid=tab5pos2

[James]

I think it's kind of cool that he chose his uncle and a friend of the family as advisors/agents. I think you can trust these kind of people more. So what if he gets a million less because he doesn't have a sharp negotiator. He's still going to be making more money than if he wasn't playing football.

I also think it's awesome that he met the president in the jeans and sweatshirt. I bet Bush was wishing he didn't have to wear that stuffy suit, too.

[jwttu]

I think it's kind of cool that he chose his uncle and a friend of the family as advisors/agents. I think you can trust these kind of people more. So what if he gets a million less because he doesn't have a sharp negotiator. He's still going to be making more money than if he wasn't playing football.

I also think it's awesome that he met the president in the jeans and sweatshirt. I bet Bush was wishing he didn't have to wear that stuffy suit, too.

i think having the family friend is what is hurting him right now. If he would have had an experienced agent we probably wouldn't have heard about a bad Wonderlic score or anything like that.

[James]

i think having the family friend is what is hurting him right now. If he would have had an experienced agent we probably wouldn't have heard about a bad Wonderlic score or anything like that.

The problem that a lot of people are having is putting themselves in his shoes. Fortunately for him, these people are not him. If he starts complaining about how he's hurting, then you can say he's hurting, but until then, he's not hurting. Sports analysts are just bored and looking for something to write about.

[celebritygooner]

I can see him being a successful receiver, but I just think that if Young is ever going to be a good NFL QB it will take time. Just my opinion.

I also think that him being taller than Vick is negligible considering Young's release point.

It takes time for every quarterback not named Ben Roethlisberger to get it right, you can't knock a guy just because he's not Ben Roethlisberger.

Stop comparing him to Mike Vick. If you're willing to admit that he's going to end up like Mike Vick then comparing them is awesome(by which I mean being constantly injured because a quarterback can't run in the NFL without getting the shit beat out of him). Sure Young can see more than Vick, but the way he throws the ball gives him about the same height.

Sure the shotgun option offense isn't useless in the NFL but you better bet your quarterback's going to get fucking rocked every now and then.

If we don't want to compare him to Mike Vick, I'll make (perhaps) a more appropriate comparison to Randall Cunningham. Cunningham played till he was, like, 75. He lost a step as he got older, but he compensated by doing other things, and, arguably, his fundementals got better as he played.

Why so much emphasis on his release point? It doesn't matter if your throw can clear the line if you can't see over the line to find the recievers. I'll take a sidearm 6'5" guy over an overhand 6' any time.

Mack Brown says that the less they tried to coach him, the better he got. That's not good for a guy, saying that when you try to teach him fundamentals he gets worse.

Mack Brown's coaching just made Chris Simms worse, but he seems to have grown out of it.

[mattbober]

I think this really shows how funny/embarassing it is that athletes are treated like Gods...

Think about it, what can Vince Young do? He can run pretty fast with a piece of leather. In the grand scheme of things what does that mean? Is he ever going to contribute anything? nah, not really. All athletes are like this, they're overpaid and overglamorized.

Personally, I don't think Young will do well at all in the NFL, I just can't picture it. My view doesnt have anything to do with the Wonderlic, I've said that from the beginning...

Either way, it's pretty sad that a guy who can't answer "Billy is a baseball player, all baseball players wear hats, does billy wear a hat?", is treated like the next Jesus Christ...

Matt

[moebary]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ht&lid=tab2pos2

I kinda share this guy's opinions on VY. And I like the Jenna Jameson comparison.

[Rocky]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ht&lid=tab2pos2

I kinda share this guy's opinions on VY. And I like the Jenna Jameson comparison.

Come on now. That article was as worthless as a woman.


I'm pretty sure Young knows he isn't going to waltz in and take over. That is just ridiculous to believe that. Not wearing a sports coat and tie to the whitehouse doesn't dictate somebody's intentions or character.


I don't really care about VY, but the media is creating his image for him. And so many people are buying it. Queers.

[Throwdown]

regardless of how good the article is, it's still written by Jason Whitlock, and Jason Whitlock is still a dumbshit

[johnthedrunk]

why dont you wonderlic my balls, capitane.

[JRockTTU]

why dont you wonderlic my balls, capitane.

"Me and my friends have been been too busy bathing off the southern coast of St. Barts with spider monkeys for the past two weeks. Tripping on acid changed our whole perspective on shit."

And my favorite:

"Okay. Then I'm gonna tell you the truth. When I was in seventh grade I was the fat kid in my class."

"Ew!"

[Seussninja]

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[Spectatrix]

Getting him to say his name backwards is the only way to send him back to his home in the fifth dimension.

[JRockTTU]

XelA KeberT

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I think it was actually KeberT XelA

[JRockTTU]

So, the reports were all wrong, and we all owe Will an apology. It came out today that Vince Young did not score a 16 on his Wonderlic test. We must all admit to believing the media with their story they ran with that was incorrect. I'm sorry I doubted Vince Young, the UT alumn and VY's agent said he did not score a 16, should have believed them. What did Vince score on the test you ask? The official scores came out today, and he scored a 15. On his second try. Don't worry though, he didn't score the lowest, the amazingly thuggish Marcus "Mexico" Vick scored an 11 on the test. The last person to score an 11 was El Roberson. The lowest score ever for a QB was Jeff George with a 10. VY has a long tradition of stupid quarterbacks to compete with.