gov using phone records of newspapers, to root out confidential sources Options

[Seeker]

the gov is spying on newspaper reporters, do we really need anymore proof that we're heading for a police state? welcome to amerika.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/0...al_source_.html

[Spectatrix]

Blech.

[pysex]

they aren't spying on ALL newspaper reporters....

only on reporters that report classified information that was received from a mole/or leak in the system...


GOOD! Those people don't deserve to be reporters.

[pebkac]

they aren't spying on ALL newspaper reporters....

only on reporters that report classified information that was received from a mole/or leak in the system...


GOOD! Those people don't deserve to be reporters.

Yeah. How many bad things would we not know about the Bush admin had someone not leaked it?

[pysex]

not even that...


reporters putting up maps during the iraq war and showing troop movements


i don't know how fucking stupid you have to be to think that constitutes public knowledge....unless those reporters are really trying to fuck people over


and reporting about CIA prisons in other countries....i mean for fucks sake people...not all of that stuff is bad


YES...some secrets we need to know about....others not so much

[Spectatrix]

YES...some secrets we need to know about....others not so much

Still... for investigating serious leaks of classified information, the government should be able to get warrants to seize relevant phone records... they don't need this giant database crap.

[prefix]

and reporting about CIA prisons in other countries....i mean for fucks sake people...not all of that stuff is bad


YES...some secrets we need to know about....others not so much

Oh, you mean the CIA prisons in other countries that they take people so they can not follow the geneva convention? You mean the same ones that they've been taking people off of the streets and flying them there to torture them because they have the same last name as some terrorists.


Yea, you're right; we don't need to know about those.

[pebkac]

not even that...


reporters putting up maps during the iraq war and showing troop movements


i don't know how fucking stupid you have to be to think that constitutes public knowledge....unless those reporters are really trying to fuck people over


and reporting about CIA prisons in other countries....i mean for fucks sake people...not all of that stuff is bad


YES...some secrets we need to know about....others not so much

Personally, I think there needs to be some kind of check on the president for classifying these things. I mean, how many things has Bush classified simply because he didn't want the public to know about it? And it's not just him, virtually every past president has abused their ability to classify things at will (so I don't want to hear any arguments beginning with "If Clinton was president...")

Still... for investigating serious leaks of classified information, the government should be able to get warrants to seize relevant phone records... they don't need this giant database crap.

What she said.

[woody]

I mean, how many things has Bush classified simply because he didn't want the public to know about it?

thank you for defining classified for us

[pysex]

Oh, you mean the CIA prisons in other countries that they take people so they can not follow the geneva convention? You mean the same ones that they've been taking people off of the streets and flying them there to torture them because they have the same last name as some terrorists.


Yea, you're right; we don't need to know about those.

exactly

[pebkac]

thank you for defining classified for us

sigh

The point is that presidents classify things not because there's a valid national security concern but rather they don't want the public to know about them for political reasons.

[impala454]

ABC News does not know how the government determined who we are calling, or whether our phone records were provided to the government as part of the recently-disclosed NSA collection of domestic phone calls.

they admit they don't know how the govt determined it. so don't say the govt is spying. it could just as easily be some turncoat at ABC.

[rabble]

reporters putting up maps during the iraq war and showing troop movements


i don't know how fucking stupid you have to be to think that constitutes public knowledge....unless those reporters are really trying to fuck people over


and reporting about CIA prisons in other countries....i mean for fucks sake people...not all of that stuff is bad

that was geraldo and he is a fucking tool, I've never opened up a newspaper to find a gigantic map of iraq with a bunch of troop movements with a heading that said "TODAYS TROOP MOVEMENT REPORT!"

If its illegal then fuck if its classified or not, we have the right to know.

And the prisons are shit, we are america so we should hold ourselves to a higher standard, who is to say who is right and who is wrong in the end? the ends do not justify the means. (and p.s. us having torture prisions makes us just as bad as saddam)