israel says it will strike iran, in the next two or three months Options

[Seeker]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p..._9-5-2006_pg1_3

[Seeker]

and just released today, diplomats saying that iran has enriched uranium, ZOMG WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, WE MUST INVADE!!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/12/...n.ap/index.html

what a coinkywinkydence

[jonathan83]

iran also says that Israel must and will be wiped off the face of the earth.
i mean, they're pretty much asking for it...

[Billy]

Without the aid of the USA, Iran and its allies will destroy Isreal.

[pebkac]

You know, maybe this is the best way to solve our problems with the middle east. Just let them beat the fuck out of each other.

[Testm0nkey]

only after the protective bubble is carefully placed over the western hemisphere

[Seeker]

You know, maybe this is the best way to solve our problems with the middle east. Just let them beat the fuck out of each other.

thats what i say, but then that would destabalize our oil supplies, which gives us all the more reason to find other sources of energy

[impala454]

yeah but if you had let them beat the hell out of each other someone like saddam would have way more resource over much more terroritory now.

[Hartmann]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p..._9-5-2006_pg1_3

Because I'm sure there is no bias in a Pakistani paper

[Hartmann]

Without the aid of the USA, Iran and its allies will destroy Isreal.

How so? Israel has yet to lose a conflict with any nation, no matter how large.

Hell, the first war they fought was a day after the creation of the state and they were invaded by six countries. They seem to have done just fine. They received little to no help from the U.S. and were buying airplanes from Czechoslovakia.

There were some other conflicts, including the Yom Kippur War, where they were invaded by Egypt and Syria with help from Iraq and they came out gaining land. No U.S. intervention there either.

The U.S. supplies airplanes and tanks, that's about it. I believe the contract Israel had with Armalite (makers of M-16s) went up a few years ago and now they're receiving their weapons from Europe. During the Gulf War we had to send Patriot missiles to Israel just to keep them from retaliating.

I don't worry about Israel, I think they'll be just fine in any conflict.

[Jim]

How so? Israel has yet to lose a conflict with any nation, no matter how large.

Hell, the first war they fought was a day after the creation of the state and they were invaded by six countries. They seem to have done just fine. They received little to no help from the U.S. and were buying airplanes from Czechoslovakia.

There were some other conflicts, including the Yom Kippur War, where they were invaded by Egypt and Syria with help from Iraq and they came out gaining land. No U.S. intervention there either.

The U.S. supplies airplanes and tanks, that's about it. I believe the contract Israel had with Armalite (makers of M-16s) went up a few years ago and now they're receiving their weapons from Europe. During the Gulf War we had to send Patriot missiles to Israel just to keep them from retaliating.

I don't worry about Israel, I think they'll be just fine in any conflict.

I'm pretty surethey lost against those ovens.

[Hartmann]

I'm pretty surethey lost against those ovens.

ouch.

[Mommy]

Without the aid of the USA, Iran and its allies will destroy Isreal.

I dont think that at all. Israel is quickly becoming a major world power. If Iran doesnt use nuclear weapons in fighting Israel, Im pretty confident that Israel would "win" (for lack of a better word). I know Stephan already responded, but I was thinking the exact same thing he wrote.

[pysex]

Isreal does not have the manpower to fight Iran, its allies, and all the insurgencies from other countries.


Isreal will lose.


If Iran attacks. The U.S. will respond.

If Isreal attacks. The U.S. may respond.


Frankly, we don't need this bullshit right now. We should find an alternate energy source and then start worrying about US instead of THEM.

[Mommy]

Isreal does not have the manpower to fight Iran, its allies, and all the insurgencies from other countries.


Isreal will lose.


If Iran attacks. The U.S. will respond.

If Isreal attacks. The U.S. may respond.


Frankly, we don't need this bullshit right now. We should find an alternate energy source and then start worrying about US instead of THEM.

manpower isnt everything today. Israel has a strong army and definitely has the weaponry. I definitely disagree with you.

[Dogmeat]

somone just needs to invent a genetic weapon that only kills arabs

[jonathan83]

um yeah, i agree with stephan and jessica. israel is more powerful than many people realize. i mean, this stuff is all biblical. even if you arent religious, you have to acknowledge still that the bible basically talked about all this, and about how there will never be peace in that region, and how israel has and will always win.

[Psykopath]

um yeah, i agree with stephan and jessica. israel is more powerful than many people realize. i mean, this stuff is all biblical. even if you arent religious, you have to acknowledge still that the bible basically talked about all this, and about how there will never be peace in that region, and how israel has and will always win.

Ah, the bible and it's absolutes....



I doubt there will always be war there just like I doubt Israel will always win.
And in a nuclear war (which it would probably degrade to in that region if they basically had it all out), would any nation truly "win"?

[Testm0nkey]

i dont think people fully realize how fucking crazy iran is. there are nuclear weapons burried under the entire country all the way to the core of the earth!

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

isreal doesn't need population to wipe the floor with ANY country around it. They have better intelligence gathering ability than most any other countries. Not to mention the weaponry, training, and balls to use in regards to that intel. Iran will not get a nuke for a long time... they just started weaponizing the stuff... still years away from a bomb, isreal wouldn't let them get that far anyhow.

oh, and they already kicked the asses of every country around them... and they have better toys today... They would sure as hell take that part of the world with them if they went.

which, hey, more reason for me to like them.

[Mommy]

In addition, I dont care who "starts" the war... Im pretty sure the US would back Israel especially in de-arming Iran. To be honest, if a major war breaks out in the Middle East, I could see it potentially becoming another world war. The only thing is, I dont see many European countries joining in on the war. The biggest reason there hasnt been another world war is because of Europe's fear of another one. She was hit bad with 1 & 2. However, we are dealing with a whole different region of the world in this case. I can see Iran bringing in other countries to war against Israel and there is no way that the US is going to sit back and let all these countries gang up on Israel (not that Israel cant hold her own). We will join in and try to bring as many countries in with us as possible. I dont know. Its all speculation. Maybe it wont since we arent dealing with any dictatorships that are trying to conquer the world. Im just thinking, though, about what will happen IF Iran gets to talking to North Korea or China. THAT could be bad news.

[Psykopath]

In addition, I dont care who "starts" the war... Im pretty sure the US would back Israel especially in de-arming Iran. To be honest, if a major war breaks out in the Middle East, I could see it potentially becoming another world war. The only thing is, I dont see many European countries joining in on the war. The biggest reason there hasnt been another world war is because of Europe's fear of another one. She was hit bad with 1 & 2. However, we are dealing with a whole different region of the world in this case. I can see Iran bringing in other countries to war against Israel and there is no way that the US is going to sit back and let all these countries gang up on Israel (not that Israel cant hold her own). We will join in and try to bring as many countries in with us as possible. I dont know. Its all speculation. Maybe it wont since we arent dealing with any dictatorships that are trying to conquer the world. Im just thinking, though, about what will happen IF Iran gets to talking to North Korea or China. THAT could be bad news.

We sat on our thumbs and did basically nothing (besides sanctions) to North Korea. We'll probably do the same to Iran. I want diplomacy to work, but it may take much more than just words to deal with a regime that calls for nations to be "wiped off the map." Yet, I feel due to our current commitments elsewhere, we are not presently capable to deal with another major military engagement. Public sentiment would certainly not allow it, and a draft could become a reality.



I can see how another multi-state war in the Middle East would draw in several countries, regardless of their opinion on the Israeli/Arab conflict as a whole. They'd basically act in a neo-realist fashion, security being their main concern. Turkey would most certainly get involved, and that would most likely draw in Eastern Europe (and then escalate West). Iran is close to Pakistan/India, and I'm sure they'd love to kick their fued to the next level. And then let's not forget China, right there with a front seat to the action! Oh, and those Ruskies share a border with them, more fun stuff!

Worst case scenario for it to escalate that far, I know. But when you're dealing with a region that is so fragile, you have to be prepared for the worst.

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

We sat on our thumbs and did basically nothing (besides sanctions) to North Korea. We'll probably do the same to Iran. I want diplomacy to work, but it may take much more than just words to deal with a regime that calls for nations to be "wiped off the map." Yet, I feel due to our current commitments elsewhere, we are not presently capable to deal with another major military engagement. Public sentiment would certainly not allow it, and a draft could become a reality.



I can see how another multi-state war in the Middle East would draw in several countries, regardless of their opinion on the Israeli/Arab conflict as a whole. They'd basically act in a neo-realist fashion, security being their main concern. Turkey would most certainly get involved, and that would most likely draw in Eastern Europe (and then escalate West). Iran is close to Pakistan/India, and I'm sure they'd love to kick their fued to the next level. And then let's not forget China, right there with a front seat to the action! Oh, and those Ruskies share a border with them, more fun stuff!

Worst case scenario for it to escalate that far, I know. But when you're dealing with a region that is so fragile, you have to be prepared for the worst.

actually it would most likely escelate to those countries getting involved. Not because of geography as much as the mere supply of oil being disturbed. All countries would be viaing for the rights to use whatever oil they could get their hands on... and thus conflict.

[rabble]

I cant wait for Israel to decimate Iran.