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post Apr 18 2006, 02:57 AM
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What is up with that lol

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post Apr 18 2006, 11:08 AM
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I'm only going to say this once:

SUDOKU IS FUCKING GAY

Can't this fad die already?


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post Apr 18 2006, 11:56 AM
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I prefer Kakuro. At least there's some math involved there (barely).


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post Apr 18 2006, 12:17 PM
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logic puzzles are fun, at least we have a fad that makes people think.
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post Apr 18 2006, 12:27 PM
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i like sudoku. my book comes with some cross sums which are slightly more mathlike, and then some nonograms which are so difficult i cant even figure out the directions using the example as a guide. i like exercising my brain while my professors seem to want to turn it to mush


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post Apr 18 2006, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Apr 18 2006, 12:27 PM)
i like sudoku. my book comes with some cross sums which are slightly more mathlike, and then some nonograms which are so difficult i cant even figure out the directions using the example as a guide. i like exercising my brain while my professors seem to want to turn it to mush

I have a computer program that does nonograms I could send it to you if you'd like.

Edit: It's located here if you wanna download it: http://students.cs.byu.edu/~hec23/logicpaint.zip

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post Apr 18 2006, 12:37 PM
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i just dont even know how to do them


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post Apr 18 2006, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Apr 18 2006, 12:37 PM)
i just dont even know how to do them

It's not too hard once you get used to it. For instance, say you have a row 15 spaces long and the # for it is 10. You know that the middle five spaces have to be blacked out because no matter whether the 10 starts at the left end or ends at the right end, those middle five boxes are gonna be covered.


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post Apr 18 2006, 03:13 PM
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you're all gay


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post Apr 18 2006, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Apr 18 2006, 03:13 PM)
you're all gay

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post Apr 18 2006, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Apr 18 2006, 11:08 AM)
I'm only going to say this once:

SUDOKU IS FUCKING GAY

Can't this fad die already?

Correct.

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post Apr 18 2006, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 18 2006, 02:18 PM)
It's not too hard once you get used to it. For instance, say you have a row 15 spaces long and the # for it is 10. You know that the middle five spaces have to be blacked out because no matter whether the 10 starts at the left end or ends at the right end, those middle five boxes are gonna be covered.

ok that part i get but what if its like



9 1 5 7
5 3 4 6
1 2
4

5

6 9 3

4 7

2






psst i made those numbers up but yeah where its stacked like that


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post Apr 18 2006, 05:15 PM
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but what if its like this one



where they are stacked on top of each other


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post Apr 18 2006, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Apr 18 2006, 05:15 PM)
but what if its like this one



where they are stacked on top of each other

Ok, I didn't do that one, but I created one in LogicPaint on "normal" mode with the same dimensions (10x20).

It's easiest to start with a row or column that has a large number in it. So for example, here:



So what I did with row 4 was start from the left. I put in 6, 1, 1, 1, 3, and 1 with just a single space in between. Now notice there are 2 spaces left on the far right. That's the max that everything can move over. So I remove 2 marks from the left of each segment, like so:



Now I do the same thing with column 2, starting from the top (ignore that random mark in the top row--I guess I clicked there accidentally before taking my screenshot):



Now note that in row 3 and row 9, the first # is a 3. There's a tick in the 2nd column for both of those, so you know that they're either going to have ticks in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd columns or the 2nd, 3rd, 4rd. Either way, there's gonna be a tick in the 3rd column, so I mark the spots at (3,3) and (9,3) as well. In row 5, the first # is a 1 and there's a tick in column 2 already... can't have ticks to either side or it'd be a 2 or 3 block in that row, so I mark (5,1) and (5,3) as spaces (right-clicking in LogicPaint). All this results in the following:



And so on and so forth... make sense?

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post Apr 18 2006, 07:18 PM
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no.


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post Apr 18 2006, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Apr 18 2006, 07:18 PM)
no.

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post Apr 18 2006, 07:43 PM
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for some reason this thread reminds me of this little kid's book I read when I was a little kid about some pigs and a pig cleaning machine, so I made up this chant that went "Piggies taking poo-too bath! Piggies taking poo-too bath!" and started chanting it around the playground and all the other little kids thought it was funny so they all started chanting it until the dictatorial playground teacher we had sent me to the office for making up a ryme that had sexual innuendos in it.

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post Apr 18 2006, 07:44 PM
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if you want a game that's cool, do those logic puzzles where you're given all those clues and like you have a grid of the people or whatever and you mark people off vertically and horizontally when you single them out. the good ones are the ones that span like 4 or 5 grids.


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post Apr 18 2006, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Apr 18 2006, 07:44 PM)
if you want a game that's cool, do those logic puzzles where you're given all those clues and like you have a grid of the people or whatever and you mark people off vertically and horizontally when you single them out. the good ones are the ones that span like 4 or 5 grids.

its the same thing as sudoku only you dont have to keep reading the same sentences again and again.
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post Apr 18 2006, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (hodge @ Apr 18 2006, 08:09 PM)
its the same thing as sudoku only you dont have to keep reading the same sentences again and again.

nuh uh


those don't involve math

they involve logic

sudoku is for the gays.


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post Apr 18 2006, 09:20 PM
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wtf is sudoku?


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post Apr 18 2006, 09:22 PM
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SUDOKU

google it

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post Apr 18 2006, 09:23 PM
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But that would involve me doing extra work. sad.gif


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QUOTE (zetec @ Apr 18 2006, 08:10 PM)
nuh uh


those don't involve math

they involve logic

sudoku is for the gays.

Sudoku doesn't involve math. You could do it with letters or symbols and it'd work the same damn way.

But I do prefer regular logic puzzles.

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post Apr 18 2006, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
Sudoku doesn't involve math. You could do it with letters or symbols and it'd work the same damn way.

But I do prefer regular logic puzzles.

it's still gay, you can't change it sad.gif


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QUOTE (zetec @ Apr 18 2006, 11:19 PM)
it's still gay, you can't change it sad.gif

i agree

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yeah, all your nucleotides are purple or pink.


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post Apr 19 2006, 01:21 AM
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SAYS THE PERSON POSTING ON THE INTERWEB


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post Apr 19 2006, 01:26 AM
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hey i stepped outside to talk about the internet not even 10 minutes ago
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 19 2006, 01:26 AM)
hey i stepped outside to talk about the internet not even 10 minutes ago
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the irony here hurts me


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 19 2006, 01:26 AM)
hey i stepped outside to talk about the internet not even 10 minutes ago
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what is this "real world" you speak of?


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QUOTE (chook @ Apr 19 2006, 02:00 AM)
what is this "real world" you speak of?

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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 19 2006, 01:26 AM)
hey i stepped outside to talk about the internet not even 10 minutes ago
WITH A REAL LIFE PERSON

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What was it like? Were they scary?


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 19 2006, 01:26 AM)
hey i stepped outside to talk about the internet not even 10 minutes ago
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my imaginary friend ditched me


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