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post Feb 12 2009, 09:52 AM
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http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

As if being allowed to have 14 kids isn't bad enough, now this lowlife is asking for donations to support her jobless, homeless self and offspring.


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post Feb 12 2009, 05:46 PM
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Plus I think I heard she wants to have more kids. She needs to be sterilized
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.

"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.

"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.

Furtney said he, Suleman and her family had received death threats and had been getting messages that were "disgusting things that would never be proper to put in any story."

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.


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post Feb 12 2009, 09:51 PM
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Nadya Suleman (b. 1975) (also known as Natalie Denise Suleman; Nadya or Natalie Suleman-Gutierrez while married; and Nadya or Natalie Denise Doud) was born in Fullerton, California.[1][2][3][4] She was raised in La Puente, Hacienda Heights and Rowland Heights, all cities in Los Angeles County.[4] She is the only child of Edward and Angela Suleman, who married in Las Vegas in 1974 and divorced in 1999.[5] Nadya Suleman has described herself as half Arab, half Lithuanian and a Protestant.[4] It is unclear how she survived birthing zerlging brood; even more troubling is her ability to breed zerglings without sufficient Overlords.


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post Feb 12 2009, 10:51 PM
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What ever happened to a woman having control of her own body?


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post Feb 12 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 12 2009, 10:51 PM) *
What ever happened to a woman having control of her own body?



whatever happened to a woman taking care of her own fucking problems instead of making everyone else do it for her?


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post Feb 12 2009, 11:35 PM
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That's hilarious Christine
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post Feb 13 2009, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 12 2009, 09:51 PM) *
What ever happened to a woman having control of her own body?


This is the kind of talk that happens when you tell women they have rights...

bullshit i say.


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post Feb 13 2009, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 12 2009, 11:35 PM) *
That's hilarious Christine

I just about did a spit-take when I read that. Sometimes I <3 Wiki vandalism.


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post Feb 13 2009, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 12 2009, 10:51 PM) *
What ever happened to a woman having control of her own body?

A woman having control of her own body is fine and dandy when she can support the children that she pops out of it, but care of her and her previous six children already drove her parents into bankruptcy. I don't care so much that she's single, but she's unemployed, receiving food stamps and SS disability assistance, and in debt for student loans. It's almost inevitable that the cost of taking care of these kids is going to fall on taxpayers.


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post Feb 13 2009, 01:54 PM
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Angelina Jolie 'creeped out' by octuplets mother after receiving letters from her - and hearing rumours of her plastic surgery
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Hollywood star Angelina Jolie is said to be 'creeped out' by octuplets' mother Nadya Suleman after she received several admiring letters from her.
Sources close to the Tomb Raider star said the 33-year-old Suleman had written to Jolie praising her support of children.

She is said to be irritated by Suleman - and particularly by rumours claiming the single mother had facial surgery to make her look more like her.


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post Feb 13 2009, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Feb 13 2009, 01:54 PM) *
Angelina Jolie 'creeped out' by octuplets mother after receiving letters from her - and hearing rumours of her plastic surgery
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Something Angelina Jolie said that didn't make my blood pressure shoot through the roof. Incredible


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post Feb 13 2009, 03:20 PM
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from my twitter post the other day:

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woodyco Come to think of it,she looks like what would happen to angelina jolie if a blind dr. gave her a face lift. And competing on the kid count. 9:06 PM Feb 10th from TwitterFon


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post Feb 15 2009, 10:29 AM
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Anyone talk about the doc who did the invitro shouldn't of done it.


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post Feb 15 2009, 05:30 PM
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i agree


you know what needs to happen?

get rid of the aid programs. that'll eliminate most of the scammers and bums from milking the system.


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post Feb 16 2009, 08:48 AM
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Don't use the arguement that a women should control her own body for abortion then, and say that republicans are a double standard with prolife/dealth penalty.

She needs to have her kids taken away though, but getting the tubes tied is rather Draconian. A doc who is willing to help her get more kids should be investigated by the AMA.


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post Feb 16 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 16 2009, 08:48 AM) *
Don't use the arguement that a women should control her own body for abortion then, and say that republicans are a double standard with prolife/dealth penalty.

She needs to have her kids taken away though, but getting the tubes tied is rather Draconian. A doc who is willing to help her get more kids should be investigated by the AMA.

I don't think it's a double standard. I'm pro-choice, but I'm kinda neutral on the death penalty. *shrugs*

In my lovely, theoretical, me-as-dictator world, most people would be sterilized... but in reality, no, I don't think that's right. laugh.gif


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post Feb 16 2009, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 16 2009, 11:29 AM) *
In my lovely, theoretical, me-as-dictator world, most people would be sterilized... but in reality, no, I don't think that's right. laugh.gif


Would there be manditory love making for all the scientist?


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post Feb 16 2009, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 16 2009, 02:11 PM) *
Would there be manditory love making for all the scientist?

They will be required to pop out half a dozen babies by age 35 or incur fines.


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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 16 2009, 08:48 AM) *
Don't use the arguement that a women should control her own body for abortion then, and say that republicans are a double standard with prolife/dealth penalty.

She needs to have her kids taken away though, but getting the tubes tied is rather Draconian. A doc who is willing to help her get more kids should be investigated by the AMA.



i'm not exactly sure what you're attacking on my stance here.


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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Feb 16 2009, 07:35 PM) *
i'm not exactly sure what you're attacking on my stance here.

Not your stance in particular, just an idea.


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post Feb 16 2009, 11:48 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality?


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the state should intervene... if you can't adequately take care of your children then they should be taken by the state.


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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Feb 16 2009, 11:48 PM) *
the state should intervene... if you can't adequately take care of your children then they should be taken by the state.


it really is the only solution. i also believe that she should be denied any and all benifits for the children.

reason::

my ex fiance had a child before i was with her, and she did not have custody of the child. she had partial visitation rights, but for some reason, she recieved a small check each month for it dealing with the child. i am unsure of the details of it, but it was like, $300 a month.


it would be really nice if our government would stop awarding dumbass people for their mistakes


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