 Nationalization, the new capitalism? |
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 Dec 9 2008, 11:45 AM
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http://features.csmonitor.com/environment/...-the-big-three/
I guess the most interesting point from this would be that by letting the big 3 tank, it allows for more capitalistic competition. That companies like Toyota or Honda are doing well because of the capitalist nature, but the irony is that these companies are nationalistic in nature. -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Dec 9 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 9 2008, 11:45 AM)  http://features.csmonitor.com/environment/...-the-big-three/ I guess the most interesting point from this would be that by letting the big 3 tank, it allows for more capitalistic competition. That companies like Toyota or Honda are doing well because of the capitalist nature, but the irony is that these companies are nationalistic in nature. Toyota is nationalistic? How? The argument that letting the big 3 fail creates more capitalistic competition is a little off because by letting something fail simply means letting the free market define the conditions, not necessarily that the market is competitive. GM and Ford are run more efficiently than Chrysler and a lot of analysts think that Chrysler should be allowed to fail because of such poor management. Would letting the big 3 fail reshape our infrastructure? I don't think so. We are engrained in driving ourselves places and there is not a desire to be like Europe. In fact, it's highly unlikely that a European system could work here in the States. We need trains but trains need passengers. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Dec 9 2008, 03:51 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Dec 9 2008, 12:17 PM) Toyota is nationalistic? How? The argument that letting the big 3 fail creates more capitalistic competition is a little off because by letting something fail simply means letting the free market define the conditions, not necessarily that the market is competitive. GM and Ford are run more efficiently than Chrysler and a lot of analysts think that Chrysler should be allowed to fail because of such poor management. Would letting the big 3 fail reshape our infrastructure? I don't think so. We are engrained in driving ourselves places and there is not a desire to be like Europe. In fact, it's highly unlikely that a European system could work here in the States. We need trains but trains need passengers. I don't want Jeep to disappear.  Think that arguably the most popular brand under the Chrysler flag would be picked up by another company? -------------------- |
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Dec 9 2008, 04:34 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Dec 9 2008, 03:51 PM) I don't want Jeep to disappear. Think that arguably the most popular brand under the Chrysler flag would be picked up by another company? probably, but they replace the engine with a 4 cylinder and a plastic frame --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Dec 9 2008, 04:42 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Dec 9 2008, 04:34 PM) probably, but they replace the engine with a 4 cylinder and a plastic frame well...they already did the plastic frame shit starting with the 2007 model year. Just need a 1997-2006 Wrangler and I'll be good. -------------------- |
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Dec 9 2008, 05:17 PM
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 DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
I'm sure Obama's up and coming Environmental Gestapo will force his will of nationalization of everything ensuring that absolutley the most incompetent people become the US leaders accelerating the decline of American society.
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Dec 9 2008, 05:27 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Dec 9 2008, 05:17 PM) I'm sure Obama's up and coming Environmental Gestapo will force his will of nationalization of everything ensuring that absolutley the most incompetent people become the US leaders accelerating the decline of American society. Your logic fails. Bush was in power before Obama. This post has been edited by Psykopath: Dec 9 2008, 05:28 PM -------------------- |
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Dec 9 2008, 07:28 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Toyota, Nissan, Mercedez, etc are feeling the effects of this poor economy also. They have acres of cars sitting on lots in California (not even car lots... just land they are renting from either the state or landfill companies) that are waiting for room at dealerships since cars aren't being sold.
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Dec 10 2008, 08:09 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Dec 9 2008, 05:27 PM) Your logic fails. Bush was in power before Obama. Obama will be Bush x 10, but nobody will give a shit because he sounds so pretty 
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