 What would be the result of the US splitting into two or three seperate countries? |
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 Oct 15 2008, 02:02 AM
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A western US, a Rocky Mountain / Midwestern US, and then an Eastern US?
What would be the results of this? Good or bad? -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Oct 15 2008, 07:51 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I support being a separate country than California, Utah, and Texas. Texas better be in the mid-west. We Easterners don't want it.
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Oct 15 2008, 07:59 PM
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"im not at [insert place] anymore, so [insert place] sucks"
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Oct 15 2008, 08:09 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I always hated Texas... except for Austin. The rest of it sucks though.
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Oct 15 2008, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 15 2008, 09:09 PM)  I always hated Texas... except for Austin. The rest of it sucks though. Texas is a big place. --------------------  QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 16 2007, 09:22 PM) |
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Oct 15 2008, 08:18 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Ok, lets put it this way: El Paso, Lubbock, San Angelo, Waco, Dallas, Ft. Worth, Houston, San Antonio, Sweetwater, San Marcos, ..... (do I really need to list all the other places in Texas I have been to)..... suck
IMO. I like it here. Shipyards, forest, culture, not a lot of Mexicans, clean, beach.... It's great. |
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Oct 15 2008, 08:22 PM
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So what do you not like about these cities? You mention culture, but do you know Houston is only second to New York City to being the most cultural?
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Oct 15 2008, 10:03 PM
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Jessica claiming something sucks is like lance saying something is logical
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Oct 15 2008, 10:04 PM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
I went to NYC and didn't find it that spectacular. I did really like Madrid growing up.
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Oct 15 2008, 11:33 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 15 2008, 08:51 PM) I support being a separate country than California, Utah, and Texas. Texas better be in the mid-west. We Easterners don't want it. TRAITOR!!! -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 16 2008, 07:55 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 15 2008, 08:22 PM) So what do you not like about these cities? You mention culture, but do you know Houston is only second to New York City to being the most cultural? Savannah has a ton of history. It's super neat to walk the cobblestone streets and see the horse drawn carriages, the old statues, the massive cathedrals, and the shops. Right next to the area I mentioned is the bay with huge freight ships, bay cafes, occasional cruise liners. Yeah, there is something similar in Houston, but I-10 is right there. It's a hugely busy port with nearby traffic. Houston is way too big for me to enjoy. I went to the galleria one time and sat in traffic for an hour and a half to get a distance of 2.3 miles. Other than a ton of stoplights within Savannah, traffic is non-existent. Savannah is only a little larger than Lubbock. I was just way overdue for a change. Instead of there being 50+% Mexican everywhere, there is 30%ish black here, at least in the areas I have been. Other than black people CONSTANTLY jaywalking, they are really friendly or they leave you alone. Mexicans give you dirty looks, they walk slow, they talk in Spanish even though they speak fucking English half the time. Yeah, black people are quicker to want to fight if you are rude to them, but they fear racism. I can't ever remember a time when I was walking along in Texas and a Mexican stranger said "hello" to me. Blacks here are really nice. Some guy stopped me yesterday to ask about my son. It's a whole different pace here. People actually have drive like they have somewhere important to be. I swear, if you aren't going 20 mph over the speed limit, you are going too slow. Yeah, Houston is like that, but you also get frequent middle fingers there. I have yet to see the birdie here. It's good ol' Southern charm here. There are mansions lining the streets with huge moss trees overshadowing the rodes you drive on. I'm sure if I lived here my whole life, I would think it sucks. For now, though, I love it.
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Oct 16 2008, 08:14 AM
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STAY ON TOPIC YOU HOLES!
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Oct 16 2008, 11:46 AM
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It would be a terrible idea I think. It would produce needless arrogance which many ppl in this country always have. Except as separate countries we can wage war against each other more easily. Then we'd end up like the middle east.
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Oct 16 2008, 12:04 PM
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i think any group that wants to secede should be able to, freewill and all
there's a quite a few secessionist movements in the u.s., republic of vermont, republic of cascadia, republic of texas, etc. |
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Oct 16 2008, 04:24 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 16 2008, 11:46 AM) It would be a terrible idea I think. It would produce needless arrogance which many ppl in this country always have. Except as separate countries we can wage war against each other more easily. Then we'd end up like the middle east. What is arrogant to me is the far east and west coast deciding what the middle of the country does ... I guess that's my main point for posting this topic. The heavily populated coastal areas have far too much influence over politics of the rest of the country. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Oct 16 2008, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Oct 16 2008, 05:24 PM) What is arrogant to me is the far east and west coast deciding what the middle of the country does ... I guess that's my main point for posting this topic. The heavily populated coastal areas have far too much influence over politics of the rest of the country. I'm pretty sure that's what the middle east believes, that one group of people should not be deciding what the other group does. And what do we have here, world peace? -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Oct 16 2008, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 16 2008, 06:54 PM) I'm pretty sure that's what the middle east believes, that one group of people should not be deciding what the other group does. And what do we have here, world peace? better than anything else the middle east has ever accomplished. quit bitching you foreign devil --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Oct 16 2008, 10:45 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Oct 16 2008, 05:24 PM) What is arrogant to me is the far east and west coast deciding what the middle of the country does ... I guess that's my main point for posting this topic. The heavily populated coastal areas have far too much influence over politics of the rest of the country. that's kind of how democracy works... -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 17 2008, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 16 2008, 07:04 PM) better than anything else the middle east has ever accomplished. quit bitching you foreign devil I'm about as foreign as you are. -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Oct 17 2008, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Oct 16 2008, 11:45 PM) that's kind of how democracy works... Good thing we are in a republic -------------------- |
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Oct 17 2008, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 17 2008, 10:27 AM) Good thing we are in a republic We actually had this debate a while back. We're in a republic, also know as a representative democracy. Definitely not direct democracy, though. -------------------- |
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Oct 17 2008, 04:56 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 17 2008, 10:02 AM) I'm about as foreign as you are. (i was playing the race card... i'm white... you're not, "git outter mah cuntry!" that whole thing.... yea... oh well) -------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Oct 17 2008, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Oct 16 2008, 10:45 PM) that's kind of how democracy works... When the democracy is far too large geographically and demographically, yes. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Oct 17 2008, 07:58 PM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 17 2008, 10:02 AM) I'm about as foreign as you are. weren't you born in somethingese country? -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Oct 20 2008, 09:46 AM
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i think she was born in china.
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Oct 20 2008, 09:49 AM
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I am still American
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Oct 20 2008, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 20 2008, 10:49 AM) I am still American i don't know if you want to claim that nowadays, i don't and i was born here especially when i travel overseas, i tell people i'm from canada |
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Oct 20 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Watchman @ Oct 20 2008, 10:58 AM) i don't know if you want to claim that nowadays, i don't and i was born here especially when i travel overseas, i tell people i'm from canada What? Why? I don't see the hatred for Americans that I hear people claim is so prevalent around the world. There's a reason the Canadians elected a conservative leader. Again. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Oct 20 2008, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 20 2008, 11:19 AM) What? Why? I don't see the hatred for Americans that I hear people claim is so prevalent around the world. There's a reason the Canadians elected a conservative leader. Again. well, in my experience if you mention you're american then you have to listen to their complaining about american politics and their interference in the world, and you have to listen to their bush-bashing (they're preaching to the choir but i still don't want to hear it) if you mention you're from canada then everyone automatically loves you and leaves you alone |
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Oct 20 2008, 11:39 AM
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I encountered absolutely zero anti-American sentiment during my vacation in Europe this summer. Granted, we were in touristy areas, but still...
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Oct 20 2008, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 20 2008, 10:49 AM) I am still American I'd call that patriotism there. Or a good spy, cause of work I can't travel to China. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Oct 20 2008, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 17 2008, 10:27 AM) Good thing we are in a republic A state can be a republic and not have democratic tendencies. While our system is not direct democracy or the democracy of Athens it is, as Christine said, representative democracy. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 20 2008, 09:20 PM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
republic is just power more local and fed is more central power i think. Nothing do to with who is in power, just the where.
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Oct 21 2008, 07:21 AM
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so inferia when did you become american? i thought you had a green card or something before, right? anyway congrats. and if im wrong, sorry.
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Oct 21 2008, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 21 2008, 08:21 AM) so inferia when did you become american? i thought you had a green card or something before, right? anyway congrats. and if im wrong, sorry. I swore in around the end of July, and thanks. -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Oct 21 2008, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE (chook @ Oct 20 2008, 10:20 PM) republic is just power more local and fed is more central power i think. Nothing do to with who is in power, just the where. No Technically a republic is just a State that it not ruled by a hereditary monarchy. You're thinking of the difference between a confederation and a federation The United States is obviously a republic but so is Iran. This post has been edited by The Fanatic: Oct 21 2008, 08:58 AM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 21 2008, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 17 2008, 11:03 AM) We actually had this debate a while back. We're in a republic, also know as a representative democracy. Definitely not direct democracy, though. I had this debate with my bf today, mostly about the electoral college and it's usefulness/purpose in modern day America. I see what he is talking about with representing the states, but with the congress representing the states, do we really need the president to do the same? -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Oct 21 2008, 10:03 AM
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Actually, my point about representative democracy is that it is NOT a "majority rule" system. Congress looks out for the well-being of their constituents, but they shouldn't be 100% beholden to the whims of the majority in their state/district. Part of the job of representatives is to make judgment calls on when it's best to follow the majority and when it's best to defy them to protect minorities or the common good.
The president's job, imo, is to do that on a broader scale, making decisions with input primarily from his advisers and Congress. As for the electoral college, I support it WITH modification to proportional allotment of votes, rather than "winner takes all" in a state. Having the electoral college in place is advantageous over the popular vote because it weights votes by state population regardless of the voter turnout in those states. I.e., in this election the popular vote might be skewed towards Arizona and Illinois because the two main presidential candidates are from those states. This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Oct 21 2008, 10:06 AM -------------------- |
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Oct 21 2008, 07:21 PM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Oct 21 2008, 08:58 AM) No Technically a republic is just a State that it not ruled by a hereditary monarchy. You're thinking of the difference between a confederation and a federation The United States is obviously a republic but so is Iran. Thanks for the info! -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Nov 4 2008, 11:38 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
Back on this topic ... Look at which states McCain win and which states Obama won.
With the exception of Californado for the most part, McCain won the middle of the country, while obama won the coastal regions. I can now look forward to the next 8 years of poverty in the rocky mountain region, I can no longer ride my snowmobile or 4-wheeler, and I'll be out of the job I haven't even started yet in 6 months. I say the "middle" of the country needs to succeed into a "New America" where the fucking liberals are not allowed.
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Nov 4 2008, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Nov 4 2008, 11:38 PM) Back on this topic ... Look at which states McCain win and which states Obama won. With the exception of Californado for the most part, McCain won the middle of the country, while obama won the coastal regions. I can now look forward to the next 8 years of poverty in the rocky mountain region, I can no longer ride my snowmobile or 4-wheeler, and I'll be out of the job I haven't even started yet in 6 months. I say the "middle" of the country needs to succeed into a "New America" where the fucking liberals are not allowed. Ah, so this "New America" you dream of is essentially against the long-standing ideals of the United State of America? Talk about a fringe member of a party... -------------------- |
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Nov 5 2008, 12:02 AM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Nov 5 2008, 12:48 AM) Ah, so this "New America" you dream of is essentially against the long-standing ideals of the United State of America? Talk about a fringe member of a party... What is against a long-standing idea of the United States of America? Wanting for the localities in which you reside to decide their future, or a bunch of elitist yuppies who think they're saving the world deciding for you whether or not you can enjoy life and have a job? Seems to me one of the founding principles of the country was to gives states more control than a completley overbearing federal government ... And since the liberalists have a complete majority now, I can pretty well kiss my job goodbye as well as my entire way of life so a bunch of asshats in California can feel good because "they're saving the world"  I'm so happy right now. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Nov 5 2008, 03:07 AM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
We'll see what happens. Maybe we'll get assfucked, or mabye it will feel better than when the Republicans assfuck us!
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Nov 5 2008, 06:51 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (chook @ Nov 5 2008, 03:07 AM) We'll see what happens. Maybe we'll get assfucked, or mabye it will feel better than when the Republicans assfuck us! lube yourself up then because the hurt is coming the middle class after obama's first year will no longer exist...we'll all be poor and sharing our jobs with a bunch of fucking illegals -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Nov 5 2008, 08:54 AM
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Under what power will congress try and pass national health care? im guessing commerce clause, since thats what the federal has used to grow itself bigger than ever intended. Wish the supreme court would get back on board with striking down laws that are state matters.
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Nov 11 2008, 09:01 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
Here's some food for thought ...
2008 Presidential Election by County:  2004 Presidential Election by County:  2000 Presidential Election by County:  Thank you New York and Southern California
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Nov 11 2008, 09:45 PM
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You're surprised?
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Nov 11 2008, 09:52 PM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (James @ Nov 11 2008, 10:45 PM) You're surprised? Not in the slightest, it's just nice to have visual aide to go along with my argument here. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Nov 12 2008, 11:02 AM
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Or you could look at this, which is more demonstrative.
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Nov 12 2008, 11:21 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
shows you the population centers went more for obama while the less populated went mccain
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Nov 12 2008, 11:27 AM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
I like that map showing the change.
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Nov 12 2008, 12:12 PM
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Yeah, this guy's whole site is pretty good: http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2008/
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Nov 12 2008, 12:44 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
a lot more of michigan went for democrats this time.
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Nov 12 2008, 03:01 PM
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Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
Probably cause they lost a bunch of jobs, but more that black voters showed up.
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