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post Mar 31 2006, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 31 2006, 02:56 PM)
how does bob knight have a big head?

i second the bob knight freeway name

umm... he thinks he can have any type of attitude that he wants and get away with it because he is the almight great Bob Knight who hasnt done shit for our school. well, i take that back, when i tell someone where i go to school now they say "oh isnt that where Bobby Knight coaches?" instead of saying "uhh never heard of it". BIG FUCKING WHOOP. People here worship him like he is a god...and why I will never know because as stated before HE HASNT DONE SHIT FOR TEXAS TECH.
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so you think he's the only coach that gets mad at the ref? he's actually had pretty good behaviour lately.

and hasn't done anything for tech? have you taken a look at how the bball team was w/dickey?

and the publicity tech has gotten out of having him has been awesome.
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post Mar 31 2006, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 31 2006, 03:41 PM)
so you think he's the only coach that gets mad at the ref? he's actually had pretty good behaviour lately.

and hasn't done anything for tech? have you taken a look at how the bball team was w/dickey?

and the publicity tech has gotten out of having him has been awesome.

great.... our SCHOOL!!!!!! A PLACE FOR EDUCATION now has publicity because of its sports program...which isnt even good for that matter. We have a famous coach. seriously, just shut up.
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 31 2006, 04:57 PM)
great.... our SCHOOL!!!!!! A PLACE FOR EDUCATION now has publicity because of its sports program...which isnt even good for that matter. We have a famous coach. seriously, just shut up.

you're pretty naive if you think there really is a separation between school & sports.
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post Mar 31 2006, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 31 2006, 03:41 PM)
so you think he's the only coach that gets mad at the ref? he's actually had pretty good behaviour lately.

he's not the only coach who gets mad at the ref, but he's the only coach who tries to choke his players to death. not to mention hes the only coach who throws chairs

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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 31 2006, 05:00 PM)
you're pretty naive if you think there really is a separation between school & sports.

im sorry that I think school is for education... as stated before, shut up. you seem to argue the most stupid concepts sometimes
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QUOTE (Throwdown @ Mar 31 2006, 05:02 PM)
he's not the only coach who gets mad at the ref, but he's the only coach who tries to choke his players to death. not to mention hes the only coach who throws chairs

bob knight=lowlife

ya he could encourage players to injure other opponents or cool things like that, at least make the league hate his team and not just him.
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i posted in this thread but it got deleted maybe?


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QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 31 2006, 05:03 PM)
im sorry that I think school is for education... as stated before, shut up. you seem to argue the most stupid concepts sometimes

Ya, we shouldn't have sports in college! FUCK COLLEGE SPORTS!


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post Apr 1 2006, 01:16 AM
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Before I start out, let me qualify my post by saying that I am not one who thinks that Bob Knight can do no wrong. People like those exist but I am not one of them. Hell, I guess you could call me a member of the media so, in all likelihood, Knight hates my guts. But, Jessica, for you to claim that Bob Knight "HASNT [sic] DONE SHIT FOR TEXAS TECH" is completely false and I think you know it.

Indeed, it seems as if Knight - and this isn't a contest nor something I think coaches are obligated to do - has done more for the general student population of Texas Tech than Mike Leach, Marsha Sharp, Larry Hays or anyone else. Sharp has donated a considerable amount of money over her career to the university but those funds were predominately earmarked and used for the academic support of student-athletes.

When Knight first arrived at Texas Tech in 2001, he set-up the Bob Knight Library Fund with a donation of $25,000. In the years since, donations to the fund from contributors across the United States have nearly reached $200,000. He hasn't stopped donating either. The Knights have continued to do donate money as well as books (700+) from their personal libraries. Last May, for example, they donated $45,000 to the Texas Tech Libraries.

You are naive if you think that the publicity Knight provides doesn't help the university. How many, do you think, of those who contributed to the fund would have done so if Knight's name wasn't attached to it?

Furthermore, Jessica, how many books have you donated to the library? How much have you donated to the university?

SOURCES: http://www.dailytoreador.com/news/2001/06/...0-1272039.shtml, http://www.texastech.edu/communications/di...cle.php?id=1675
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QUOTE (Aaron @ Apr 1 2006, 01:16 AM)
Before I start out, let me qualify my post by saying that I am not one who thinks that Bob Knight can do no wrong. People like those exist but I am not one of them. Hell, I guess you could call me a member of the media so, in all likelihood, Knight hates my guts. But, Jessica, for you to claim that Bob Knight "HASNT [sic] DONE SHIT FOR TEXAS TECH" is completely false and I think you know it.

Indeed, it seems as if Knight - and this isn't a contest nor something I think coaches are obligated to do - has done more for the general student population of Texas Tech than Mike Leach, Marsha Sharp, Larry Hays or anyone else. Sharp has donated a considerable amount of money over her career to the university but those funds were predominately earmarked and used for the academic support of student-athletes.

When Knight first arrived at Texas Tech in 2001, he set-up the Bob Knight Library Fund with a donation of $25,000. In the years since, donations to the fund from contributors across the United States have nearly reached $200,000. He hasn't stopped donating either. The Knights have continued to do donate money as well as books (700+) from their personal libraries. Last May, for example, they donated $45,000 to the Texas Tech Libraries.

You are naive if you think that the publicity Knight provides doesn't help the university. How many, do you think, of those who contributed to the fund would have done so if Knight's name wasn't attached to it?

Furthermore, Jessica, how many books have you donated to the library? How much have you donated to the university?

SOURCES: http://www.dailytoreador.com/news/2001/06/...0-1272039.shtml, http://www.texastech.edu/communications/di...cle.php?id=1675

when i said that he hasnt done shit for Texas Tech... I meant as far as our basketball team is concerned. he is supposed to be some big bad ass coach and well... yeah, seems to me like he fucking blows.

as far as donating to Texas Tech... you are right. I havent donated shit, but I also feel that I didnt get my 30,000 dollars worth. The education sucked (and before you start talking shit about philosophy... i had 4 majors before that and i left the dept because of the poor excuse for an education). I dont feel that I need to give this shitty excuse for a school anymore of my fucking money, but dont think that I dont donate money to causes I believe in. I donate money to the Red Cross all the time.

might as well stop arguing with me because my opinion of that stupid ass Bobby Knight isnt going to change.
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he also gave back his salary that one time.


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post Apr 1 2006, 02:26 AM
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So you are saying that he hasn't done anything for Texas Tech basketball? Wow. Feel free to dislike him because of some of the choices he has made but to say that the man hasn't positively affected the Red Raider basketball program is absolutely retarded. You say that your opinion won't change but it seems fairly obvious that your opinion isn't based on anything close to factual.

You do realize that Tech was ranked 11th in the Big 12 the year before he was hired? Tech has gone on to post-season play four out of his five seasons on the South Plains. And in 2005, the Red Raiders advanced to this little thing called the Sweet Sixteen.

The 2005-06 was an unqualified abortion of a basketball season, no question... but what do you expect when over half the squad is made up of newcomers (all but one of which were freshmen).

I just think you have sand in your vagina because a professor gave you a C+ instead of a B or something. The hiring of Bob Knight instantly elevated Tech from conference bottom-feeder to a relevant force in the Big 12.
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Apr 1 2006, 02:20 AM)
he also gave back his salary that one time.

i dont know if you realize this, but Bobby Knight has more money than he knows what to do with. I dont give two fucks about how how much money he gives to Tech so they can piss away on flowers for Memorial Circle or whatever the fuck else.

Again, Bobby Knight hasnt gotten our guys anywhere important....except on the "whoah your coach is bobby knight!" bandwagon.
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QUOTE (Aaron @ Apr 1 2006, 02:26 AM)
So you are saying that he hasn't done anything for Texas Tech basketball? Wow. Feel free to dislike him because of some of the choices he has made but to say that the man hasn't positively affected the Red Raider basketball program is absolutely retarded. You say that your opinion won't change but it seems fairly obvious that your opinion isn't based on anything close to factual.

You do realize that Tech was ranked 11th in the Big 12 the year before he was hired? Tech has gone on to post-season play four out of his five seasons on the South Plains. And in 2005, the Red Raiders advanced to this little thing called the Sweet Sixteen.

The 2005-06 was an unqualified abortion of a basketball season, no question... but what do you expect when over half the squad is made up of newcomers (all but one of which were freshmen).

I just think you have sand in your vagina because a professor gave you a C+ instead of a B or something. The hiring of Bob Knight instantly elevated Tech from conference bottom-feeder to a relevant force in the Big 12.

you know nothing about me or my grades so you can stfu. Im mad because Tech was too fucking easy. I just love how I skipped all but five days in one of my classes and still made an A. I never went to class and felt no need to because when I did go, I never learned anything and I still mades A's.

I think maybe your just mad because your mouth is firmly planted on Bobby Knight's dick. Oh yeah... great coach. LOOK AT OUR GREAT SCHOOL THAT MADE IT TO THE SWEET 16....oh wait, nope....didnt even get close. He cant keep a cool temper to save his life. I think he is an embarrassment to our school.
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Sensitive about your grades much? Anyways, it would seem to me that you should be directing your sand-in-vagina anger over the university being too easy towards the colleges/academic departments in which you were involved instead of the athletic department?

And, please, to try to characterize me as biased towards Bob Knight is asinine. Ask Dean or any of the guys that I work with if I'm a ra-ra Knight guy. Hell, the last basketball game I attended this season was the Louisiana Tech game which was in early-December.
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 02:46 AM)
you know nothing about me or my grades so you can stfu. Im mad because Tech was too fucking easy. I just love how I skipped all but five days in one of my classes and still made an A. I never went to class and felt no need to because when I did go, I never learned anything and I still mades A's.

I think maybe your just mad because your mouth is firmly planted on Bobby Knight's dick. Oh yeah... great coach. LOOK AT OUR GREAT SCHOOL THAT MADE IT TO THE SWEET 16....oh wait, nope....didnt even get close. He cant keep a cool temper to save his life. I think he is an embarrassment to our school.

quit being a cunt

you being mad because getting your degree was too easy has nothing to do with how well Bob Knight can coach.

Knight has helped Tech basketball. We're not a recruiting power-house, so we go through periods where we don't have the best players yet. We get young players, then after a few years we get better, like last year when we DID make it to the sweet 16. This year nobody expected us to go far or really anywhere due to how young our team is.

If you single out this year, yeah, we're no good. But overall since Knight has come here Tech's basketball team has become better.

Just because you hate someone/something doesn't mean that they're worthless. Get off your fucking high horse for once.

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QUOTE (Aaron @ Apr 1 2006, 02:54 AM)
Sensitive about your grades much? Anyways, it would seem to me that you should be directing your sand-in-vagina anger over the university being too easy towards the colleges/academic departments in which you were involved instead of the athletic department?

And, please, to try to characterize me as biased towards Bob Knight is asinine. Ask Dean or any of the guys that I work with if I'm a ra-ra Knight guy. Hell, the last basketball game I attended this season was the Louisiana Tech game which was in early-December.

youre the one that brought up grades and how bob knight donated books. my point is that bob knight hasnt gotten our team to the final four. plain and simple. tech still sucks. as stated before, its pointless to argue with me. my opinion of him isnt going to change unless his attitude starts to change.
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QUOTE (moebary @ Apr 1 2006, 10:42 AM)
quit being a cunt

you being mad because getting your degree was too easy has nothing to do with how well Bob Knight can coach.

Knight has helped Tech basketball. We're not a recruiting power-house, so we go through periods where we don't have the best players yet. We get young players, then after a few years we get better, like last year when we DID make it to the sweet 16. This year nobody expected us to go far or really anywhere due to how young our team is.

If you single out this year, yeah, we're no good. But overall since Knight has come here Tech's basketball team has become better.

Just because you hate someone/something doesn't mean that they're worthless. Get off your fucking high horse for once.

my arguement was aimed at Impala because I think he is a mindless douche on these boards, not any of you fuckers so quit getting butt hurt that im not a fan of the great, almighty Bob Knight.
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 12:44 PM)
my arguement was aimed at Impala because I think he is a mindless douche on these boards, not any of you fuckers so quit getting butt hurt that im not a fan of the great, almighty Bob Knight.

I'm not getting "butt hurt" and I'm not a fan of Bob Knight. I just realize that he is a good coach and has made our program better. So what if we haven't been to the final four, our team wasn't that good to begin with, progress takes time. Just because we haven't been to the final four in the past few years doesn't mean we suck as a program.

I'm just smart enough to realize when people are good at what they do whether I like them or not. You're basing his coaching ability on the fact that you just don't like him.

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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 12:42 PM)
.....my point is that bob knight hasnt gotten our team to the final four. plain and simple. tech still sucks. as stated before, its pointless to argue with me. my opinion of him isnt going to change unless his attitude starts to change.

So you think he sucks cause he is a bad coach? or because he has a temper?

If he made it to the Final Four, but broke his assistant in half for asking what his favorite salad dressing was, would you like him?

What about if he went 0-16 in conference, but voluenteered at an elderly retirement community 40 hours a week instead?

Or is this just another one of your senseless posts, devoid of anything remotely resembling logic or reason?


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its not me being senseless. I dont like his attitude at all. that started my dislike for him. It just grows bigger and bigger when i look at how our program will never be really great yet people look to him as if he can change that. yeah, we made it to the sweet 16, but i dont see that happening again for a long time...with or without bobby knight
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College Coaching Highlights:
Source: http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers/Knight.htm

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* Earned his 800th victory on February 5, 2003 following Texas Tech's 75-49 victory over Nebraska in Lubbock.
    * At the time of his 800th victory, Knight had compiled an 800-303 record
    * Became Army head coach at 24, earning the distinction of becoming the youngest varsity coach in major college history
    * His Army teams finished 102-50
    * His Army teams led nation in team defense for three consecutive years
    * Army participated in four NIT tournaments in five seasons (1966, 1968-70)
    * His Indiana teams won 11 Big Ten Conference titles (1973-76, 1980-81, 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1993) and participated
      in five Final Fours (1973, 1976, 1981, 1987, 1992)
    * Had a 32-0 undefeated season (1976)
    * NCAA Championship (1976, 1981,1987)
    * NIT Championship (1979)
    * National Coach of the Year (1975, 1976, 1987, 1989)
    * Big Ten Coach of the Year (1973, 1975, 1976, 1980, 1981)
    * Coached Pan American team to gold medal (1979)
    * In 1984, he became one of only four coaches in basketball history to win an NCAA championship, NIT championship and an Olympic gold medal
    * One of only two coaches to both play on and coach national championship teams (the other
      is Dean Smith)
    * Youngest coach to reach 200, 300 and 400 wins
    * Sixteen of his former assistant coaches have become head coaches at the collegiate level
    * Has conducted clinics in Spain, China, Japan, East Asia, Europe, South America, Canada and Finland

That site was updated October 14, 2005. Besides his 800th personal victory, where else do you see Texas Tech on that list?




Source: http://www.goofball.com/news/200009111001
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Bobby Knight, three-time National Championship winner and the coach with the best winning percentage in all of college basketball history, was fired today from his position as head coach of the Indiana University's Men's Basketball team.

University president Myles Brand, who announced the firing at a news conference, called Knight "defiant and hostile" and said the coach had shown a "continued unwillingness" to work within guidelines of the athletic department. Brand also cited Knight's history that is laced with a "pattern of unacceptable behavior."




And this proves it all http://www.dailyhaha.com/_vids/bobby_knight_top10.htm pure fucking trash


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So wait, if I pulled up a record of you having beat someone up in high school, could I then use it against you now? That's basically what you're doing. You're saying that it is impossible for anyone to change for the better.


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If we held everything against everybody and assumed that no one could change for the better then I'm sure I could dig up dirt on more than half of all Techsans.

Then I could rub it in your face and ridicule you.

People change, Bobby Knight changed.
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QUOTE (Jyan @ Apr 1 2006, 03:25 PM)
So wait, if I pulled up a record of you having beat someone up in high school, could I then use it against you now? That's basically what you're doing. You're saying that it is impossible for anyone to change for the better.

ummm.... I dont see how he has changed.

Remember the incident at a restaraunt with ...what was it the school chancellor?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/03/sports/n...artner=USERLAND


Im sorry but if I was on tv, I wouldnt be cussing up a storm like that.

oh and how about this?

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Most recently, in March, 2006, a student's heckling at Baylor University resulted in Knight having to be restrained by a police officer. The incident, though, was not severe enough to warrant any action from the Big 12 Conference.


Are you saying he has changed in the last couple weeks?

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But I don't see him throwing chairs or strangling players. How do you know these things haven't been blown out of proportion?


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i dont think that he has changed. I just think he refrains from such extreme displays of abuse in order to save his job. he still goes around cussing and acting violent. i didnt quote the source of the guy who said that Knight walked up to him and started grabbing and shaking him for saying something like "whats up" which Knight regarded as being disrespectful. I didnt because Knight said that he just touched the guy on the shoulder and verbally repremanded him. Im quoting stuff that is pretty much straight forward as having happened.
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 03:43 PM)
i dont think that he has changed. I just think he refrains from such extreme displays of abuse in order to save his job. he still goes around cussing and acting violent. i didnt quote the source of the guy who said that Knight walked up to him and started grabbing and shaking him for saying something like "whats up" which Knight regarded as being disrespectful. I didnt because Knight said that he just touched the guy on the shoulder and verbally repremanded him. Im quoting stuff that is pretty much straight forward as having happened.

People don't go straight from sinners to saints ya know. It takes time, and gradually, they become better. I think he is better than he has been. He's still a little rough around the edges, as is expected.


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QUOTE (Jyan @ Apr 1 2006, 03:46 PM)
People don't go straight from sinners to saints ya know. It takes time, and gradually, they become better. I think he is better than he has been. He's still a little rough around the edges, as is expected.

yeah... umm i dont really see your point so much.
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QUOTE (Jyan @ Apr 1 2006, 03:46 PM)
People don't go straight from sinners to saints ya know. It takes time, and gradually, they become better. I think he is better than he has been. He's still a little rough around the edges, as is expected.

you sound like a fag

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QUOTE (Throwdown @ Apr 1 2006, 04:07 PM)
you sound like a fag

would you people still be making excuses for bob knight if he didn't coach at tech?

I'm not making any excuses for him, I'm just saying he is good at coaching. He wouldn't have all those wins if he wasn't.

Jessica's earlier comments come off as if she's saying that because she doesn't think he's a good person, he's not a good coach.

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All I'm saying is he's acting better than he has in the past. Maybe not a lot better, but still better.

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i never said he wasnt a good coach. i said that he hasnt done much of his "great coaching" at tech. when he gets a 4th national champtionship and its while he is here at Tech, ill be impressed. Hell, if he could get us to the top 8 I might be impressed. Again, my point is that his great coaching doesnt seem to be happening at tech.
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he's brought tech from being mediocre to being slightly above mediocre.

aaron, saying tech has been to the postseason 4 out of the last 5 years is a pretty weak argument. 64 teams in the tournament, another 32 or so in the NIT? isn't that about 75% of all d-1 college basketball teams? not very impressive


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he's done two things: get Tech somewhere they hadnt been since '96 (so about 4 or 5 years) and he got Tech to the sweet 16. I dont know. I just expect more from such an "awesome coach"
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he's a great coach

that's all I'm saying
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 04:22 PM)
i never said he wasnt a good coach. i said that he hasnt done much of his "great coaching" at tech. when he gets a 4th national champtionship and its while he is here at Tech, ill be impressed. Hell, if he could get us to the top 8 I might be impressed. Again, my point is that his great coaching doesnt seem to be happening at tech.

it takes more than just a great coach to win national championships
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QUOTE (moebary @ Apr 1 2006, 04:38 PM)
it takes more than just a great coach to win national championships

well, over time, he should be able to do something then. ill wait for that day. when it happens, you can say im wrong.
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aaron, saying tech has been to the postseason 4 out of the last 5 years is a pretty weak argument. 64 teams in the tournament, another 32 or so in the NIT? isn't that about 75% of all d-1 college basketball teams? not very impressive

That's a negative ghostrider.

There are 65 teams invited each year to the NCAA Tournament and another 40 to the NIT... while that may seem like quite a bit, keep in mind there are 327 Division 1 basketball programs in the nation. Less than a third of D1 basketball teams go on to post-season play. Compare that to the NBA where 16 of 30 teams go on to the playoffs, or college football where nearly half (47%) of the 119 D1A teams (56) go on to play in bowls.

So yeah, definitely not a weak argument.

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wow. i had no idea there were that many D-1 teams. i figured it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 125, similar to football

From what I understand, it's a lot cheaper and easier to field a D1 basketball team than it is to field a D1A football squad.
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i just dont know how much reliability sites with names like dailyhaha and goofball can have. i did watch the video and i know that was him, so im not denying it happened and im not saying its just a lookalike or anything like that. but part of it is also the selective editing. pretty much anybody can be made to look like a horrible person if enough spin is put on any situation. im sure there are just as many things hes done or said that could make him look like the next mother teresa.

have you never wanted to tell people criticizing you to kiss your ass? have you never told someone how you really felt about them, no holding back? have you never gotten mad because someone said something about you that was either not valid or not from a valid source? just because theres a camera isnt his face doesnt mean he should become this new person and have nothing but praises for the world around him. i think its more honorable to say what hes really thinking than to try to sugarcoat it.

im not saying im for or against him. hell i didnt go to a single game this season. but i am friends with some of the players who are consistently in class and i think his philosophy about education is a good one:

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This requires tough, selfless, and intelligent play by players and the sacrifice of individual glory for the sake of the team's success. Inarguably, this has become difficult in an era when underclassmen began leaving college in greater numbers for the greener pastures of the NBA. However, Bob Knight has consistently had among the highest graduation rates among the college coaching fraternity.

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QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Apr 1 2006, 06:51 PM)
i just dont know how much reliability sites with names like dailyhaha and goofball can have.

Did you even click those links or are you just spouting off? One of the links was a video of Bobby Knight. Im not going to read the rest of your bullshit because your first sentence was enough to kill your arguement.
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 07:18 PM)
Did you even click those links or are you just spouting off? One of the links was a video of Bobby Knight. Im not going to read the rest of your bullshit because your first sentence was enough to kill your arguement.

it must be that time of the month because her next sentence answered your question

why are you being such a cunt today?

All you see is what the media puts out there, so all you're judging him on are a few incidents where a man lost his temper (I'm not condoning these incidents). If I judged you on just some things you've done in the past I could make the conclusion that you're not a very respectable person either, but I don't do that.
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QUOTE (moebary @ Apr 1 2006, 07:27 PM)
it must be that time of the month because her next sentence answered your question

why are you being such a cunt today?

All you see is what the media puts out there, so all you're judging him on are a few incidents where a man lost his temper (I'm not condoning these incidents). If I judged you on just some things you've done in the past I could make the conclusion that you're not a very respectable person either, but I don't do that.

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its whatever. she wants to say that my sources might not be credible. thats fine. i can find the same damn video somewhere else, but the fact is that your "credible" sites dont usually have videos. I could go hunting around for "more credible sites" with the same video but it proves nothing and would take forever. I have seen those clippets on tv before. The bottom line is you guys have your opinion of him and I have mine.

and now that i read on in her post, i can honestly say i dont agree with her. when you are being interviewd for television, it can be played infront of audiences of all ages. He needs to calm down. thats my point. i dont know why everyone continues to argue with me about Bobby Knight's attitude. IF YOU DONT REMEMBER, HE WAS FIRED BEFORE FOR HIS BEHAVIOR. I dont see why this has turned into a debate about his attitude. Everyone knows he has an attitude problem and I dont care if he is being provoked or not. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior.

Im done arguing. Someone (I think you) was calling me a "cunt" or a "bitch" long before she ever came into this thread and I wasnt making personal attacks until after that. So, Im going to continue on with "my time of the month" and say that Im out of this thread. You have your opinion, and I have mine; but your lame feminist jokes dont hold any weight with me.
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 04:22 PM)
i never said he wasnt a good coach. i said that he hasnt done much of his "great coaching" at tech. when he gets a 4th national champtionship and its while he is here at Tech, ill be impressed. Hell, if he could get us to the top 8 I might be impressed. Again, my point is that his great coaching doesnt seem to be happening at tech.

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I think Will's t-shirt bandwagoning has rubbed off on you.

laugh.gif nah. i said i would be impressed...ill never be a fan though
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 08:45 PM)
laugh.gif nah. i said i would be impressed...ill never be a fan though

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I motion to ban all vaginas from both sports boards indefinitely.

yeah... cuz girls dont know anything about sports. dry.gif
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yeah... cuz girls dont know anything about sports. dry.gif

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QUOTE (Throwdown @ Apr 1 2006, 09:01 PM)
"i think if you make a home run, you should get two points instead of one!"

Ive never said anything that remotely stupid when it comes to sports. That girl was dumb.
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What has Knight done for TECH, how many other college basketball coaches have the pull and circle of influence to bring Supreme Court Justices to a small town like lubbock, to speak in front of part of the University.

The publicity helps Texas TECH out a lot also, just having Bobby Knight here helps

Every year Bobby has a basketball summer camp for area High schools, and meets everyone of the kids

Apparently he also donated a lot of money to the library also

Its not a big suprise that TECH is known for its sports, the market research that has been done proves that. . .however most schools are noted for that, only schools like harvard and stanford are none for their academics
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QUOTE (Throwdown @ Apr 1 2006, 03:07 PM)
you sound like a fag

would you people still be making excuses for bob knight if he didn't coach at tech?

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After reading through this thread, I think I agree with Jessica. Texas Tech is way too easy. If she can get a degree with those critical thinking skills, then we really need to re-think our academic programs.
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QUOTE (Erik B. @ Apr 2 2006, 11:02 PM)
After reading through this thread, I think I agree with Jessica. Texas Tech is way too easy. If she can get a degree with those critical thinking skills, then we really need to re-think our academic programs.

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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 2 2006, 11:06 PM)
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and to think, you used to be so nice.

Oh, I still am.

I just wanted to crack a joke and your comments were the first thing I found to crack on. Nothing personal.
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very surprising, considering you look like a dumbfuck country bumpkin

No, no. I'm the one on the right.
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Oh, I still am.

I just wanted to crack a joke and your comments were the first thing I found to crack on. Nothing personal.

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hah... thanks. that made me laugh.

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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2006, 12:44 PM)
my arguement was aimed at Impala because I think he is a mindless douche on these boards, not any of you fuckers so quit getting butt hurt that im not a fan of the great, almighty Bob Knight.

I'm just curious where all this hatred of me from you and will came from. I guess you're both just drama queens.

You can call me all the junior high names you want. But to say Bob Knight's done nothing for Tech Basketball is just plain ignorant. He's been here what, five years? And so far only he's the only Tech coach to have 4 straight 20+ win seasons, has had 2 NCAA, 2 NIT appearances (one of which went to the finals), and has taken them to the sweet 16. Dickey got to the 16 once in ten years, and that was with a hell of a talented team.

And that's just basketball. He's brought more media attention to Tech than we've ever had. We've had more games televised than ever, hell we've had an entire 6 part series on national TV showing off the campus.

It's ok though, I don't expect logic to come into play. All I really expect is more pointless one sided hatred for no reason.
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hi impala

Incase you havent notice, you just repeated what about 5 other people said concerning Bobby Knight. Welcome to 2 days ago.


As far as the other, I dont have any hatred for you. wink.gif I was arguing with you and other people came in so I told them to fuck off in so many words. I just cant stand some of the things you try to argue sometimes. You have some really ass backward views on politics and shit. I know that there are more than 2 people on the boards that feel that way, but HEY they are your views so its al gravy, but dont get upset when people think you are dumb
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 3 2006, 09:34 AM)
doesn't matter to me if you think I'm dumb. and I don't really read this board much on the weekends so I gotta respond to the shots at me on Monday wink.gif

Top of the Morning to you, Impala. I dont think you are dumb. I think you have some weird ass views. There is a difference. smile.gif
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 3 2006, 09:39 AM)
well cool. just fair warning though, if you call me a mindless douch on friday post 6pm, i may not get back to you til monday biggrin.gif

so in other words, if i want to talk a lot of shit about you, I should do it after 6 on Fridays? I think I can manage that.

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post Apr 3 2006, 09:42 AM
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heh well you could take it that way if you want
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post Apr 3 2006, 08:14 PM
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post Apr 3 2006, 09:33 PM
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3 NCAA and 1 NIT - not 2 and 2.
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post Apr 3 2006, 09:38 PM
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hey i heard bob knight was going to resign as mayor
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I heard McDougal is going to be the new Men's Basketball coach.
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post Apr 3 2006, 10:26 PM
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I hear Bob Knight could give a shit.


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post Apr 4 2006, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (Clint @ Apr 3 2006, 10:33 PM)
3 NCAA and 1 NIT - not 2 and 2.

my bad... 's what i get for taking my co-worker's word. it got me interested in the details, here they are for the last two coaches (correct me if anything is wrong):

knight
2006 - nothing
2005 - NCAA sweet 16
2004 - NCAA 2nd round
2003 - NIT Semis
2002 - NCAA 1st round

dickey
2001 - nothing
2000 - nothing
1999 - nothing
1998 - nothing
1997 - nothing
1996 - sweet 16, swc title*
1995 - swc title*
1994 - nothing
1993 - NCAA 1st round
1992 - nothing

*oh and by the way, in 1996 those players were paid to play and Tech received over $400,000 in sanctions and had to give back tournament money. we had tony battie, jason sasser, darvin ham, etc. (also played in 1995)
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post Apr 4 2006, 10:25 AM
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just as i suspected. he brought them from mediocre to slightly above mediocre. woo hoo


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post Apr 4 2006, 03:04 PM
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i think going from NCAA tourney 20% of the time to 60% of the time is a pretty substantial gain.
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