Airport scans for illegal downloads on iPods, mobile phones and laptops, It could be coming Options

[dauss]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main....nairport110.xml

IPods, mobile phones and laptops could be examined by airport customs officials for illegal downloads under strict new counterfeiting measures being considered by G8 governments this week, it is claimed.

The measures form part of an international agreement aimed at stamping out piracy, but there are fears that individuals who have illegally downloaded songs or video clips on to MP3 players and phones for personal use could also be caught out.

They coincide with plans by the European Parliament for Internet Service Providers to be held liable if their users download illegal content, and in extreme cases, forced to disconnect people who are doing so.

Illegal downloading and piracy represents the biggest single problem faced by the music, film and publishing industries, and many have been lobbying governments to introduce tough new rules to help stamp out the practice.

Earlier this month, Virgin Media resorting to writing to customers warning them that their internet services would be terminated if they persisted in file sharing. So far, little has been revealed about the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement being considered by the G8 nations, apart from a mention in the organisation's "Declaration on the World Economy" published this week.

Backing the development of the new agreement, it said: "Effective promotion and protection of Intellectual Property Rights are critical to the development of creative products, technologies and economies."

A leak to a technology website revealed that the focus of Acta was "border measures, particularly how to deal with large-scale intellectual property infringements, which can frequently involve criminal elements".

However, a footnote saying that those signing up to Acta should put in place "provisions related to criminal enforcement and border measures to be applied at least in cases of trademark counterfeiting and copyright piracy", has generated intense speculation about what it could mean for the individual.

Recent research by the British Music Rights group found that the average teenager and student has 800 illegal downloads on their MP3 player. The suggestion that the new laws could be used by customs to scan MP3 players, mobiles and laptops for illegal downloads is just one of a number of potential measures that is causing concern in the technology world, leading to fevered debate about the implications on a number of websites.

Another is that mobile phone companies could contact their customers to warn them off sharing video clips. However, a source representing record labels said the practice of checking iPods and phones was unworkable.

"It is more likely to be about customs having the powers to intercept large shipments of raw materials and vast packages of MP3s with prerecorded content," he said.

[Jim]

How would they know? And how would they have enough time to actually go through every laptop/phone/mp3 player? I have thousands of songs on my Zune alone, not to mention how many are on Shellana's computer and mp3 player.

[THECHICKEN]

This would be the most useless waste of time at airports. I would put everything i have in a compressed zip folder with a password and they wouldn't be able to do anything.

[Jim]

This would be the most useless waste of time at airports. I would put everything i have in a compressed zip folder with a password and they wouldn't be able to do anything.

My thoughts exactly. It's no hassle takign them off of my zune and putting them back on.

[Mommy]

I bet if this does happen, that for the time being it's only in Europe... that seems to be where they are taking the most steps to stop piracy. France has some really harsh laws about piracy.

[impala454]

IPods, mobile phones and laptops could be examined by airport customs officials for illegal downloads under strict new counterfeiting measures being considered by G8 governments this week, it is claimed.

"could be examined"?? no effin way. if this is even true, there's no way it could be implemented.

"being considered"?? lots of stupid laws get "considered", and how exactly does a measure get considered by G8 governments?

"it is claimed"?? by who?

This story sounds just sounds like some shitty journalism to me. Either someone making stuff up or passing along some hearsay.

[Dogmeat]

yeah I dont really see how this is going to happen ...

[Jim]

"could be examined"?? no effin way. if this is even true, there's no way it could be implemented.

"being considered"?? lots of stupid laws get "considered", and how exactly does a measure get considered by G8 governments?

"it is claimed"?? by who?

This story sounds just sounds like some shitty journalism to me. Either someone making stuff up or passing along some hearsay.

Yah. This actually happening is almost impossible. How would it work...? Period, how would it work?

[impala454]

probably the same way that some of the foil hat wackos think all phone conversations are recorded and analyzed by some computer...

[FORSAKENR320]

probably the same way that some of the foil hat wackos think all phone conversations are recorded and analyzed by some computer...

the conversations might not be... but every call you've ever recieved or made certainly is logged.... with GPS coordinates on cell phones, all it takes is the right authority to get the info from the providers

i do it quite a bit when we gotta track down bounties. bless george bush and his patriot act.... defining anyone with a warrant for their arrest as a "terrorist" and thereby allowing anyone and everyone to trace you and the network of people you associate with, including where you and they are at accurately within 5 feet

[Hartmann]

This would be the most useless waste of time at airports. I would put everything i have in a compressed zip folder with a password and they wouldn't be able to do anything.

Most airport security is a useless waste of time.

I had to put my two laptops in two separate bins going through LAX this week... R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D

[impala454]

the conversations might not be... but every call you've ever recieved or made certainly is logged.... with GPS coordinates on cell phones, all it takes is the right authority to get the info from the providers

i do it quite a bit when we gotta track down bounties. bless george bush and his patriot act.... defining anyone with a warrant for their arrest as a "terrorist" and thereby allowing anyone and everyone to trace you and the network of people you associate with, including where you and they are at accurately within 5 feet

well duh... kinda hard to bill people or monitor traffic if you don't keep this information

[FORSAKENR320]

well duh... kinda hard to bill people or monitor traffic if you don't keep this information

i'm just saying that information is easily passed to the public.

[impala454]

I dunno about "easily passed to the public" but yeah it's kept by phone companies.

[FORSAKENR320]

I dunno about "easily passed to the public" but yeah it's kept by phone companies.

well if i can get it simply by flashing a crappy laminated badge to the chick that makes almost minimum wage and takes your payments.. how easy do you think it'd be for someone who really wanted it? i dodn't even have to know the name of the person, just the number.

[cmac]

this will never happen.
though anything done by the riaa, etc. doesn't shock me.

[impala454]

I'd hardly call that "easily passed to the public". Sure, if you wanted to pay some minimum wage worker off or make some fake badge to pass yourself off as someone else to get by security. But we're not talking about some website you can just go to and get the records. and in the end, what did you get that was worth it to you? Person A called Person B and talked to them for C minutes. big deal.

I worked in telecom for 4 years and had access to a database of tens of thousands of customer's credit card numbers. our passwords were pathetically simple and we had people making $22k/yr doing all the data entry boring jobs. so in a way yeah it was easy to get to but it's not like it's public information. it's not like you're going to waltz down to the library and pick up a copy of your neighbor's phone records.

[FORSAKENR320]

we get more than that. house ownership, who it's rented to, confirmation on social security and drivers license. for cell phones we don't need much more thn the GPS ping of when/where the call was accepted or dialed.

[impala454]

I can get house ownership off the internet. But yeah seeing as your a bail bond company (right?) they'll get you that info. It doesn't mean it's freely available easily like you seem to think.