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post Jun 24 2008, 02:22 PM
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This article explains a lot of the cash and financing incentives going on right now for trucks, SUV's, and minivans. If you scroll to the bottom, there is a chart of specific deals on certain vehicles.

Cathryn, your "haha, I own a Prius" BS is not wanted in this thread.... hence why I put it in off-topic instead of NPR. This is just to help people out.

http://finance.yahoo.com/loans/article/105...nd-Truck-Buyers
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post Jun 24 2008, 02:28 PM
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if you want/need a truck this is the perfect time to get one. damn things are droppin like a rock in price.
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post Jun 24 2008, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 24 2008, 03:28 PM) *
if you want/need a truck this is the perfect time to get one. damn things are droppin like a rock in price.
yeah, I mean, if you think about it, the money you save can just go towards gas and you pretty much still even out, if not come out on top.
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post Jun 24 2008, 02:36 PM
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This is a good quote from the article

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Should you bite? Yes, but only if the vehicle makes a better fit for your driving needs than a more compact, fuel-efficient model, says Nerad. "Someone shopping for these kinds of cars has serious carrying need in people or cargo, so a Toyota Prius just isn't going to cut it," he says, "and a $5,000 cash incentive buys a whole lot of gas."
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post Jun 24 2008, 03:08 PM
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I saw on tv the other day an advertisement from a car company for buy one get one free. I think it was if you buy an suv/truck you get an economy car free.

I thought there was no way it was true, but hell they advertised it and didn't give any disclaimers (like this is a joke) so it must've been for real.


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post Jun 24 2008, 03:27 PM
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Just wait a few more months and they'll be paying you take them off their hands.
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post Jun 24 2008, 03:30 PM
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if I would have known it was gonna be like this this summer theres no way I would have bought last fall.

I could have had a brand new truck for what I paid for a used one last fall right now.


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post Jun 24 2008, 03:44 PM
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what did you get/pay/etc?

I paid 23 for my 2006 chevy crew cab 5.3L 1/2 ton in june 2006. same thing in a 2008 right now is goin for about 18-19.
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post Jun 24 2008, 04:31 PM
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Damn, that's shitty.

I'm pissed because I could have bought my truck now for the same deal I leased it for. GRRR... oh well. I lost no money when I traded it in.
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post Jun 24 2008, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 24 2008, 03:44 PM) *
what did you get/pay/etc?

I paid 23 for my 2006 chevy crew cab 5.3L 1/2 ton in june 2006. same thing in a 2008 right now is goin for about 18-19.


$27,000 for a 2005 2500HD ECSB LT, 8.1L / Allison ..29,000 on the clock when I bought it. That price also included a "bumper-to-bumper" 4-year 80,000 mile extended warranty, I think the actual price for the truck was right around $25k. This was last November.

I didn't get a good deal on it even back then, I needed a truck and I needed it soon so I pretty well paid what the retail price on it was at the time sad.gif

I could probably the the exact same truck for $20,000 now.

If only I'd have had some patience to put up with my POS truck i had awhile longer. ... but, I know for a fact I would have had to put another $3,000 worth of tranny in that thing this winter. Blah.

I have too expensive of hobbies sad.gif


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post Jun 24 2008, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 24 2008, 03:33 PM) *
yeah, I mean, if you think about it, the money you save can just go towards gas and you pretty much still even out, if not come out on top.


Last I heard, GM is giving out $7000 rebates on their trucks. Assuming a realistic mpg for the prius (46 mpg by consumer testimony [not the EPA lies]) and $4 a gallon for gas, that $7000 translates into 80,000 miles worth of gas for the prius, and only 30,000 miles worth of gas for a 17 mpg truck (again, real consumer testimony for both a 2008 Tundra, and 2008 Chevy, not the EPA stated 22 mpg bullshit]).

Effectively, a truck costs $17,500 per 100,000 miles more than a prius. For a reasonable mpg comparison, say a vehicle with 30 mpg, that still translates into a little more than $10,000 per 100,000 miles more. Even with the $7000 rebate, a truck is still pretty damn expensive to operate.

But despite that, some people really need trucks.


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post Jun 24 2008, 05:49 PM
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Yeah, but if you need one, you need one.
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post Jun 24 2008, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 24 2008, 02:33 PM) *
yeah, I mean, if you think about it, the money you save can just go towards gas and you pretty much still even out, if not come out on top.

Doubtful, unless you want to keep that vehicle until it no longer runs. You'll never make up for it in the depreciation you lost if you try to sell it.


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post Jun 24 2008, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (Forum Warrior @ Jun 24 2008, 05:47 PM) *
Last I heard, GM is giving out $7000 rebates on their trucks. Assuming a realistic mpg for the prius (46 mpg by consumer testimony [not the EPA lies]) and $4 a gallon for gas, that $7000 translates into 80,000 miles worth of gas for the prius, and only 30,000 miles worth of gas for a 17 mpg truck (again, real consumer testimony for both a 2008 Tundra, and 2008 Chevy, not the EPA stated 22 mpg bullshit]).

Effectively, a truck costs $17,500 per 100,000 miles more than a prius. For a reasonable mpg comparison, say a vehicle with 30 mpg, that still translates into a little more than $10,000 per 100,000 miles more. Even with the $7000 rebate, a truck is still pretty damn expensive to operate.

But despite that, some people really need trucks.


Yeah, Alot of people have no idea how much trucks cost when compared to small cars. Maintenence is a lot more, fuel, tires, everything.

I put together a spreadsheet nearly 10 years ago that tracked every single cost I could think of your vehicle might incur, figured in depreciation, then broke it down for you in cost per mile ....

I quit keeping records because it made me sick how much my truck was costing me due to it breaking down all the time... but, it was an eye opener.

With that said however, I fully understand how much more I'm paying for it, and I'm willing to pay that price because I need it to have fun smile.gif

If I ever move to Denver or something I am DEFINATLEY buying a small car to commute with.


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post Jun 24 2008, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 24 2008, 06:40 PM) *
$27,000 for a 2005 2500HD ECSB LT, 8.1L / Allison ..29,000 on the clock when I bought it. That price also included a "bumper-to-bumper" 4-year 80,000 mile extended warranty, I think the actual price for the truck was right around $25k. This was last November.

I didn't get a good deal on it even back then, I needed a truck and I needed it soon so I pretty well paid what the retail price on it was at the time sad.gif

I could probably the the exact same truck for $20,000 now.

If only I'd have had some patience to put up with my POS truck i had awhile longer. ... but, I know for a fact I would have had to put another $3,000 worth of tranny in that thing this winter. Blah.

I have too expensive of hobbies sad.gif

that's a helluva nice truck man. hell that allison is about a $5k option by itself. that is pretty much the exact truck i wanted to get, but i wanted to buy new and couldn't justify 30-35k (not to mention i have nothing to tow yet). i dont mind being upside down with a vehicle i really enjoy. i've put speakers and subs and wheels on my truck so far and plan to build a computer for it, so i figure it's just a vehicle i'll have for good anyhow.
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post Jun 24 2008, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 24 2008, 08:31 PM) *
that's a helluva nice truck man. hell that allison is about a $5k option by itself. that is pretty much the exact truck i wanted to get, but i wanted to buy new and couldn't justify 30-35k (not to mention i have nothing to tow yet). i dont mind being upside down with a vehicle i really enjoy. i've put speakers and subs and wheels on my truck so far and plan to build a computer for it, so i figure it's just a vehicle i'll have for good anyhow.


I hope you have better luck with your half-ton than I had with mine, but I'm sure you will.

My dad and I had *IDENTICAL* 2000 1500's, except his was a GMC. His was built on a tuesday. He never had a lick of trouble with it in 85,000 miles. Mine was built on a friday. I had mine in for warranty work 23 different times while it was still under warranty. I should have sold it back as a lemon sad.gif

But ...

I'm not expecting this to happen again, I pretty much just got a lemon, and so far this 2500HD's been everything I expected ... I'd probably be getter better miledge with it by a little bit if I wouldn't have put bigger tires on it, hahaha ...

But yeah it's a hell of a nice truck. It fits me perfectly for what I do .... Towing a 5,000-lb trailer at 10,000 feet is a lot different than towing that trailer at sea level, the bigger motor is definatley mandatory smile.gif


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post Jun 24 2008, 11:31 PM
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Haha whatever man... I was raised a drag racer I know why you got that big block wink.gif . same reason I wanted one, 'cept it wasn't available in the 1/2 ton.

mine's run like a champ so far, and I drive it like I stole it.
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post Jun 24 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 24 2008, 11:31 PM) *
Haha whatever man... I was raised a drag racer I know why you got that big block wink.gif . same reason I wanted one, 'cept it wasn't available in the 1/2 ton.

mine's run like a champ so far, and I drive it like I stole it.


Yeah, you can't really beat the durability of a BBC ... that's the big advantage to a high-output small block, the big blocks were just designed beefier albeit slightly less effecient perhaps ... but, I will say however, I think the current crop of Gen VII big blocks were leaps and bounds over the ones they were making 15,20 years ago even though the internals have hardley changed ...

I mean a Gen VII big block is basically the same ol' big block with a completley modern top end and engine control system from what I can tell ...

But yeah, I'm expecting 250,000 miles outta this truck easy ... heh smile.gif

It does like to burn a little oil though, but I haven't ever seen a big block that hasn't .... hahaha


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heheh big blocks just like to burn everything. the old 79 crew cab long wheelbase 454 i drove in high school liked burning oil, 6mpg, and tires smile.gif 275k and counting. 454 + turbo 400 (w/shift kit of course) = tank

God I miss driving this thing.. we really need to freshen it up
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if I could get my hands on an 87' 1-ton crew cab that was in decent shape I'd buy it .... I really liked that generation of chevy trucks.


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 24 2008, 06:40 PM) *
$27,000 for a 2005 2500HD ECSB LT, 8.1L / Allison ..29,000 on the clock when I bought it. That price also included a "bumper-to-bumper" 4-year 80,000 mile extended warranty, I think the actual price for the truck was right around $25k. This was last November.

I didn't get a good deal on it even back then, I needed a truck and I needed it soon so I pretty well paid what the retail price on it was at the time sad.gif

I could probably the the exact same truck for $20,000 now.

If only I'd have had some patience to put up with my POS truck i had awhile longer. ... but, I know for a fact I would have had to put another $3,000 worth of tranny in that thing this winter. Blah.

I have too expensive of hobbies sad.gif


small penis much?


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QUOTE (nickluto @ Jun 25 2008, 12:06 AM) *
small penis much?


No, if that were the case I'd have a diesel with an 8" lift and 38" boggers on it ...


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