Forced to remove nipple ring at Lubbock airport, on cnn Options

[jonathan83]

and Lubbock makes the front page on CNN again

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/03/27/nippl...g.ap/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A Texas woman who said she was forced to remove a nipple ring with pliers in order to board an airplane called Thursday for an apology by federal security agents and a civil rights investigation.

"I wouldn't wish this experience upon anyone," Mandi Hamlin said at a news conference. "My experience with TSA was a nightmare I had to endure. No one deserves to be treated this way."

Hamlin, 37, said she was trying to board a flight from Lubbock to Dallas on February 24 when she was scanned by a Transportation Security Administration agent after passing through a larger metal detector without problems.

The female TSA agent used a handheld detector that beeped when it passed in front of Hamlin's chest, the Dallas-area resident said.

Hamlin said she told the woman she was wearing nipple piercings. The agent called over her male colleagues, one of whom said she would have to remove the jewelry, Hamlin said.

Hamlin said she could not remove them and asked whether she could instead display her pierced breasts in private to the female agent. But several other male officers told her she could not board her flight until the jewelry was out, she said.

She was taken behind a curtain and managed to remove one bar-shaped piercing but had trouble with the second, a ring.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Hamlin's attorney, Gloria Allred, reading from a letter she sent Thursday to the director of the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties. Allred is a Los Angeles lawyer who often represents high-profile claims.

Applying pliers to the torso of a mannequin wearing a bra with the rings on it, Hamlin showed reporters how she took off the second ring.

She said she heard male TSA agents snickering as she took out the ring. She was scanned again and was allowed to board even though she still was wearing a belly button ring.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Allred said in the letter.

TSA officials said they are investigating whether the agency's policies were followed.

"Our security officers are well-trained to screen individuals with body piercings in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," the agency said in a statement.

On its Web site, the TSA warns that passengers "may be additionally screened because of hidden items such as body piercings, which alarmed the metal detector."

"If you are selected for additional screening, you may ask to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search," the site says.

Hamlin would have accepted a "pat-down" had it been offered, Allred said.

If an alarm does sound, "until that is resolved, we're not going to let them go through the checkpoint, no matter what they're wearing or where they're wearing it," said TSA spokesman Dwayne Baird in Salt Lake City.

People routinely pass through security wearing wedding rings without problems, and it might take a larger bit of metal to trigger an alarm, Baird said.

Hamlin filed a complaint, but the TSA's customer service manager at the Lubbock airport concluded that the screening was handled properly, Allred said.

Hamlin wants an apology from the TSA and an investigation by the agency's civil rights office.

Allred said she might consider legal action if the TSA does not apologize.

Hamlin was publicly humiliated and has "undergone an enormous amount of physical pain to have the nipple rings reinserted" because of scar tissue, Allred said.

Hamlin said her piercings have never set off an airport metal detector.

"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary," Allred wrote. "The last time that I checked, a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

[Oasis]

Both parties are guilty of being retarded

[Hartmann]

Kip Hawley is an idiot.

[cmac]

only in Lubbock, Texas...
btw this story made the digg front page.

[Seeker]

someone needs to get revenge on those agents

burn their houses down IMO

[Mommy]

wow... they didn't say anything about her belly button ring.. that's fucking horse shit. I would want an apology too.

[schwab]

i saw that yesterday and did not realize it was in Lubbock....still funny

[chook]

I had my worst experience trasporting ammo there. The guys said I had to repack the ammo because it was in a 100 ct loose box. I showed them what the rules states, that original manufacturer's packing is accepted, and they threw a bitch fit.

[Hartmann]

I had my worst experience trasporting ammo there. The guys said I had to repack the ammo because it was in a 100 ct loose box. I showed them what the rules states, that original manufacturer's packing is accepted, and they threw a bitch fit.

Don't let stuff like this continue.

I have been traveling without an I.D. (as it completely allowed) just to make a point about the new proposed system in which everyone will need a verified I.D. before traveling, almost like passport for state-to-state travel.

[False Dude]

what they let people travel without showing an id?! thats fucking crazy

- testm0

[chook]

what they let people travel without showing an id?! thats fucking crazy

- testm0

so long as they screen for weapons, i don't see the problem.

[rabble]

This was a news item here in Houston.

1) she should have known she would need to remove her metal (duh)
2) if she had to do it behind that shitty little "pen" they have right there out in the open, I would have been pissed off too

[Mommy]

Im confused why they couldnt ask her to step out of line and go to the bathroom to remove them

still, she had a belly button ring in that they said nothing about

[Hartmann]

http://www.tsa.gov/evolution/innovation.shtm

Since this is the direction the TSA is going, I definitely think we need to do something. My favorite part is the red dot for "composure benches"... What do I need composure for?

The Israelis are able to conduct amazing security and they don't have any of that crap.

[impala454]

Don't wear a bunch of metal when going to a place where you know you're going to be scanned by a metal detector?

[Hartmann]

Don't wear a bunch of metal when going to a place where you know you're going to be scanned by a metal detector?

Yeah, but is a metal detector really going to detect everything? No.

I walked through the detector the other day with a metal pocketknife and a my cell phone. So much for metal detectors.

If the end result is that they just pat everyone down, then so be it, just pat every one down. Just stop making it into a circus and trying to make it appear that they are ensuring "security".

[impala454]

Yeah, but is a metal detector really going to detect everything? No.

I walked through the detector the other day with a metal pocketknife and a my cell phone. So much for metal detectors.

If the end result is that they just pat everyone down, then so be it, just pat every one down. Just stop making it into a circus and trying to make it appear that they are ensuring "security".

Well I agree with you that its kinda dumb and probably fruitless, but you wouldn't have had any right to pitch a fit if they had found the pocketknife on you and asked you to remove it.

[Mommy]

My husband has nipple rings. I could see us going on a flight and him forgetting to take them out. It's easy for him to get them out though. In fact, I know he has flown since getting them pierced in December. I'll have to ask him if he had to take them out. They just unscrew though; its not like he needs pliers. Plus, he is a guy. It's acceptable for them to be seen without a shirt. I think the issue here isn't that she was asked to remove them... it was how she was asked and where she had to remove them...in public, behind a screen. The fact that TSA officials were snickering at her too made matters worse.

[Testm0nkey]

ive never had a body piercing set off a detector at an airport

[FORSAKENR320]

My husband has nipple rings. I could see us going on a flight and him forgetting to take them out. It's easy for him to get them out though. In fact, I know he has flown since getting them pierced in December. I'll have to ask him if he had to take them out. They just unscrew though; its not like he needs pliers. Plus, he is a guy. It's acceptable for them to be seen without a shirt. I think the issue here isn't that she was asked to remove them... it was how she was asked and where she had to remove them...in public, behind a screen. The fact that TSA officials were snickering at her too made matters worse.

women aren't people and shouldn't be awarded the same respect as men

[Epic]

she should have said it was an underwire bra!

[Testm0nkey]

they sometimes feel the front part of your bra for a wire if you say that or if it sets it off

[chook]

http://www.tsa.gov/evolution/innovation.shtm

Since this is the direction the TSA is going, I definitely think we need to do something. My favorite part is the red dot for "composure benches"... What do I need composure for?

The Israelis are able to conduct amazing security and they don't have any of that crap.

You read the USA article too?

[Hartmann]

You read the USA article too?

No. There was an article on this?

I just browse the TSA website from time to time to see what garbage they're coming out with next.

[chook]

No. There was an article on this?

I just browse the TSA website from time to time to see what garbage they're coming out with next.

think it was on the 31st.

[TetraGrammaton C...]

colbert mentioned this on the threat down last night