Romney's done Options

[jwttu]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/romney

so it looks like McCain will be the republican candidate unless Huckabee gets a Miracle.

So does this change anything for yall in the primaries? Is anyone gonna vote in the democratic primary since they actually have something at stake now, that normally woulda voted republican?

[Dogmeat]

I'd rather vote for a sock puppet with a fake dick in it's "mouth" than vote for a democrat, but I'd also rather vote for a cute little baby penguin than a republican.

[Spectatrix]

For me: Obama > McCain > Clinton > Huckabee.

Yes, I know I'm weird.

[blaarg]

For me: Obama > McCain > Clinton > Huckabee.

Yes, I know I'm weird.

yeah, that's pretty fucking weird...

...other than Huckabee in last, that's a little reassuring

[Spectatrix]

Clinton scares the shit out of me. Huckabee scares the shit out of me for a whole other set of reasons. I'm not enamored with McCain, but I think I could tolerate him.

By the way, check your PMs.

This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Feb 7 2008, 04:56 PM

[jonathan83]

i like mccain because he's not too conservative.

i wanted him to win the primaries in 2000. glad he got it now.
i think he'd put huckabee on his VP slot to get all the southern votes.

[Mommy]

i like mccain because he's not too conservative.

i wanted him to win the primaries in 2000. glad he got it now.
i think he'd put huckabee on his VP slot to get all the southern votes.

my mom said that too... you dont think he'd put Guilliani on the ballot with him?

[Psykopath]

i like mccain because he's not too conservative.

i wanted him to win the primaries in 2000. glad he got it now.
i think he'd put huckabee on his VP slot to get all the southern votes.

McCain has one of the more conservative Senate voting records, though he does "reach across the lines" when both prudent and public.

And please dear GOD not Huckabee...

This post has been edited by Psykopath: Feb 8 2008, 01:05 AM

[jwttu]

McCain has one of the more coonservative Senate voting records, though he does "reach across the lines" when both prudent and public.

And please dear GOD not Huckabee...

i'd say romney or giuliani over huckabee, i dont want a theocracy

[jonathan83]

he won't put romney on there, they don't even like each other at all.

and at first when giuliani dropped out and endorsed him, i figured he'd be trying for the VP slot...but i don't think mccain would pick him. he's a very liberal conservative with a not-so-good moral record (as far as marriage and stuff).

and for mccain, the conservatives are already having their doubts about him for not being conservative enough, so no way giuliani will get it.

at this point i'd say huckabee, but it could be just some random conservative. guess we'll find out soon enough.

anyway, i think this'll make the 2008 election much closer than it would've been with a more conservative republican. if huckabee or someone else got the nomination, the democrats would win big time, since everyone wants a change so bad...but now that mccain is probably going to get it and he's pretty moderate...man that changes everything. i dont even know who i'm going to vote for now.

[Spectatrix]

I'd probably vote for Clinton over a McCain/Huckabee ballot.

[impala454]

I think you guys are a little overly scared of Huckabee

#1 none of the "over the top" legislation you guys think he would propose would ever be passed (or probably even proposed for that matter)
#2 the VP has no real power (obviously unless the pres is dead)
#3 he's just doing what pretty much every candidate does, pick a target audience and "preach" to them. at the very least, I like his consistency.
#4 the gays who are worried about being lined up and shot, I seriously doubt the man is going to have some personal vendetta against them. he may not support gay marraige, but how many politicians do?

Saying Huckabee = theocracy is stupid

[jwttu]

I think you guys are a little overly scared of Huckabee

#1 none of the "over the top" legislation you guys think he would propose would ever be passed (or probably even proposed for that matter)
#2 the VP has no real power (obviously unless the pres is dead)
#3 he's just doing what pretty much every candidate does, pick a target audience and "preach" to them. at the very least, I like his consistency.
#4 the gays who are worried about being lined up and shot, I seriously doubt the man is going to have some personal vendetta against them. he may not support gay marraige, but how many politicians do?

Saying Huckabee = theocracy is stupid

if huckabee had his way he'd turn this country into a theocracy, obviously if he ws vp it would pretty much impossible but i dont want him to have any power

[Mommy]

if huckabee had his way he'd turn this country into a theocracy, obviously if he ws vp it would pretty much impossible but i dont want him to have any power

oh god... no he wouldnt want it that way. god.

[impala454]

if huckabee had his way he'd turn this country into a theocracy

How? What would he do to turn this country into a theocracy? I think you're being a little overly afraid/melodramatic.

[Mommy]

I wouldnt want Huckabee as president, but I think you all need to quit being a bunch of drama queens about the possibility of him being VP... sheesh

[Spectatrix]

VP may not have much power, but I still don't want the likes of him in a strong political position. Obviously there's the possibility of McCain dying in office, but even if that doesn't happen, a VP slot could propel him to candidacy after McCain is done.

[Mommy]

VP is leader of the Senate, no? I think that's fairly powerful

[Spectatrix]

Yes, VP casts tie-breaking votes in the senate.

[impala454]

Well I'm just curious of some specific examples of what exactly you guys are so afraid of him doing.

[jwttu]

Well I'm just curious of some specific examples of what exactly you guys are so afraid of him doing.

He wants to amend the constitution to reflect god

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHkywYc_1M

This post has been edited by jwttu: Feb 8 2008, 02:47 PM

[impala454]

"To reflect God's standards". I think it was just a play on words and you're taking his statement a tad too literal. What would he propose to put into the constitution?

[jwttu]

"To reflect God's standards". I think it was just a play on words and you're taking his statement a tad too literal. What would he propose to put into the constitution?

That statement just makes me uneasy with him being president/vp. I am christian but I believe that we have to separate church and state.


So ya his statement may be ambiguous but its enough to make me not trust him about what he might do.

[Spectatrix]

Huckabee:
Wants to not only overturn Roe vs. Wade, but have a federal ban on abortion (rather than letting states decide).
Supports standardized testing and the display of the 10 commandments in school.
Against stem cell research.
Opposes same-sex marriage, civil unions, and gay adoptions. He supports a "marriage = one man, one woman" amendment to the Constitution.
Sounds like he supports the teaching of Intelligent Design in schools, but I'm not 100% sure on this one.
Supports the continued war in Iraq, including the troop surge.

"To reflect God's standards". I think it was just a play on words and you're taking his statement a tad too literal. What would he propose to put into the constitution?

He later clarified that he was referring to a "right to life" amendment and an anti-gay marriage amendment

[woody]

They're all douches

[Spectatrix]

They're all douches

QFT

[impala454]

Huckabee:
[1] Wants to not only overturn Roe vs. Wade, but have a federal ban on abortion (rather than letting states decide).
[2] Supports standardized testing and [3] the display of the 10 commandments in school.
[4] Against stem cell research.
[5] Opposes same-sex marriage, civil unions, and gay adoptions. He supports a "marriage = one man, one woman" amendment to the Constitution.
[6] Sounds like he supports the teaching of Intelligent Design in schools, but I'm not 100% sure on this one.
[7] Supports the continued war in Iraq, including the troop surge.

I think 1, 4, 5, and 7 are pretty standard republican stances. 2, eh, not a big deal to me. 3, I'd be interested to hear what exactly he said on this... did he say he wants a poster in every classroom of the 10 commandments or something?

6, like you said you werent 100% sure... I would agree that it doesn't belong in a science curriculum in any school. Although I do feel that questions teachers receive about unproven theories be answered with a "we really don't know" or "what do you think" rather than the teacher giving their personal opinions on intelligent design or some oddball blackhole/whitehole theory that has not been proven.

He later clarified that he was referring to a "right to life" amendment and an anti-gay marriage amendment

ahh ok... the vid he linked ended before that

[Spectatrix]

I don't think the clarification was in the vid, I think it was a later written/spoken statement. Was mentioned in Wiki.

I'll try to find out more about the 10 commandments thing.

Now don't get me wrong... I'm not terribly thrilled about McCain either. But he's better than Huckabee in a lot of ways (imo) and, as previously mentioned, Clinton scares the shit out ofme.

[Testm0nkey]

i would go EVERYTHING in my power to keep adoptions open. that issue (banning gay adoptions) itself is enough of a reason for me to not support anything about huckabee (though he has many faults)

[blaarg]

i would go EVERYTHING in my power to keep adoptions open. that issue (banning gay adoptions) itself is enough of a reason for me to not support anything about huckabee (though he has many faults)

hah, yeah. See the "HUCKABEE, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME" thread.

let's just say after Bush, I am going to be hesitant of any candidate the evangelicals push...