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Curious if anyone on here has bought into either format. I got weak a while back and got a Blu-ray standalone player to go with my HD-DVD standalone. Seems like the format "war" is kind of at a stalemate for the time being. After having both for a while, I have to admit they both look equally amazing. I guess it's just up to which studios support which format exclusively in the end.
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Dec 4 2007, 02:40 PM
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I'll probably get both eventually, but not anytime soon.
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Dec 4 2007, 02:43 PM
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I have a 360. I guess that has HD shit on it. I don't watch movies on it or have an HD TV so who cares
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Dec 4 2007, 02:46 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
wont even think about buying either until the format war ends
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Dec 4 2007, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 4 2007, 02:46 PM)  wont even think about buying either until the format war ends seconded. Although I'm pulling for HD to win. -------------------- |
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Dec 4 2007, 03:17 PM
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I think that Blu-Ray is the superior format, but Sony is kind of dickish, so I'm up in the air on which I want to win.
Maybe a magical 3rd format will stomp both of them and rid us of this ridiculous format war. -------------------- |
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Dec 4 2007, 03:21 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Dec 4 2007, 03:17 PM) I think that Blu-Ray is the superior format, but Sony is kind of dickish, so I'm up in the air on which I want to win. Maybe a magical 3rd format will stomp both of them and rid us of this ridiculous format war. hence why I'm slighty rooting for HD. But yeah, some magical superior third party format would kick ass. Shut the two parties of fighting techno kindergarteners up. -------------------- |
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Dec 4 2007, 03:26 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Dec 4 2007, 03:11 PM) seconded. ditto
Although I'm pulling for HD to win. |
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Dec 4 2007, 03:26 PM
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which type did Walmart go with? usually that is the one that wins...
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Dec 4 2007, 03:34 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
its the production companies that pick
Like Touchstone just went HD i think and I think Disney is blu-ray. I could be wrong though |
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Dec 4 2007, 04:01 PM
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So I just realized the poll is pretty much retarded as far as the choices, but oh well my bad.
The studios choose which format to press out media in, and if memory serves it's something like this: Blu-ray exclusive: Disney Fox MGM Sony HD-DVD exclusive: Dreamworks Paramount Universal Both: Warner Obviously there's a bunch of smaller studios but these are the major ones. Warner is kinda the linchpin. If they went exclusive to either side that would probably be the side that wins out. As far as the format itself, after a ton of research, watching lots of movies on both formats, etc, they're essentially identical. The only real difference is the disc capacities, which end up being a moot point. Blu-ray has capacities of 25GB & 50GB, where HD-DVD has 15GB, 30GB, and 51GB. They both show the same VC-1 or MPEG4 encoded 1920x1080x60Hz video, and both support the latest surround audio formats like Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD. In the end I'd say the HD-DVD format might have a slight edge as far as all players since the start were required to have ethernet ports. Not to mention the format's spec was finalized from day 1, whereas Blu-ray has had a couple of versions so far. If you have the spare cash to jump into either format, it is friggin amazing, seriously. Most of the players still have deals where you can grab several free movies with purchase. |
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Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM
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I'm thinking of getting a PS3 just because it is one of the cheapest ways to get a blue ray player. Plus I'll get to play NCAA08 too. And I want to take advantage of that offer to get 5 free movies even though the selection sucks. I'm just hoping blu ray discs don't become defunct like sony's umd movies.
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Dec 5 2007, 11:28 AM
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The PS3 is actually considered by most of the high end AV peeps to be one of the best Blu-ray players available. It is also the cheapest player. It's just that a lot of people don't want a PS3/game system in their setup, or don't like the fact that the damn thing doesn't come with a remote, or IR remote functionality (the remote you can buy separately is a proprietary bluetooth remote).
The best standalone so far is the one I picked up, the Panasonic DMP-BD30K. I've played a bunch of different movies on it so far with zero problems. Stay away from the Samsung Blu-ray players, they've had major issues. |
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Dec 5 2007, 11:52 AM
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I don't have one and don't plan on getting one either. The difference between HD-DVD/Blu-Ray and regular DVD is so minute that I couldn't give a shit about either format. I won't be buying one until HD-DVD wins out and all the players cost less than $150. If Blu-Ray wins I'll never be buying one and you wouldn't be able to give me one for free.
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Dec 5 2007, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (Watchman @ Dec 5 2007, 11:52 AM) The difference between HD-DVD/Blu-Ray and regular DVD is so minute Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I'm guessing you've never really seen a good comparison (most in-store setups are terrible). The difference is staggering on most movies (even old movies). 1920x1080x60Hz vs 720x480x30Hz is a pretty big difference even just on paper. |
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Dec 5 2007, 03:08 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I know blu-ray is supposed to be infinitely better, but
1) its way more expensive 2) the players arent all that great 3) who is really gonna notice on the tv sizes we have now. |
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Dec 5 2007, 08:04 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Well blu-ray & hd-dvd are equal as far as picture/audio quality. They hold exactly the same format video & audio, they just store that video differently on the disc.
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Dec 5 2007, 08:06 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
someone told me blu-ray could hold more info. i guess they are wrong?
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Dec 5 2007, 08:17 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
sony can kiss my ass
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Dec 5 2007, 08:27 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 5 2007, 08:06 PM) someone told me blu-ray could hold more info. i guess they are wrong? Blu-ray comes in 25GB & 50GB, HD-DVD comes in 15GB, 30GB, & 51GB (fairly new). The only real difference physically is that HD-DVDs can do a combo format, and have the standard DVD on the other side of the disc, whereas Blu-ray cannot. As far as those sizes, it just depends on the length of the movie, sound tracks, and amount of extra features which size they use. The video & audio bit-rate will be exactly the same though. All HD-DVD & Blu-rays use VC-1, MPEG2, or AVC for video encoding. |
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Dec 5 2007, 08:41 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
ahh ok. well, maybe he was unaware of the newer 51 GB HD-DVD's
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Dec 5 2007, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM) I'm just hoping blu ray discs don't become defunct like sony's umd movies. NO SHIT I checked their "catalog" and it was maybe 100 movies total, 96 of which were shitty teen comedies released in the last 5 years. I happen to like watching movies on the PSP. Better picture quality than my TV (not much of an accomplishment) and better sound quality (again, not much of an accomplishment). Still good for roadtrips though -------------------- |
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Dec 6 2007, 12:05 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Yeah I think UMD movies are dead as of last year some time.
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Dec 6 2007, 12:14 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
my brother liked those things.
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Dec 6 2007, 05:23 PM
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http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/the-state-of-hd...-dvd-330684.php
holy shit apparently HD-DVD is kicking some bluray ass, especially as far as being the superior tech. awesome article. -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Dec 6 2007, 07:15 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
skimmed the article... well written.
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Dec 6 2007, 10:17 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
That Onkyo player he mentioned has been scrapped, but a pretty good article.
This was virtually the same format war that happened for DVD. It was Sony/Philips "MultiMedia Compact Disc" vs Toshiba's "Super Density disc", and it was Toshiba's SD disc which won out and became DVD. |
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Dec 7 2007, 11:43 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Apparently there's a rumor from high places that Warner will go Blu-ray... bleh
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...63028294846.htm At this point I honestly don't care which format wins out, I just wants me some HD movies! |
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Dec 7 2007, 09:41 PM
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Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
ick.
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Dec 7 2007, 10:11 PM
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I still want a ps3. Play some ncaa 08. And like crash bandicoot or some shit. Mothafucking spyro the dragon in this bitch, or some fucking madden 98 or some thing.
-------------------- Fuckmuffin. That word and muffintop are the two coolest things I've ever seen on this place. What would happen if a fuckmuffin fucked a chick with a muffintop? That's a lot of muffins. A lot of motherfuffin muffuckins.
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Dec 7 2007, 10:38 PM
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Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
only 1 of those games is on PS3. and the new 40gbs don't have backwards compatability with PS2 games. and NCAA 08 looks better on 360 anyways.
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Dec 10 2007, 10:26 AM
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http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/...tting-edge.html
Pretty interesting article on how they transfer older films to HD (actually to 4K (4096x2160) first) |
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Dec 10 2007, 09:20 PM
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Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
good read.
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Dec 10 2007, 09:24 PM
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the polls claim "techsans don't give no fuck "
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Dec 10 2007, 10:15 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
What is funny is how good that is really. Ignorance really is bliss with this stuff. Once you go high def you never go back.
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Jan 4 2008, 03:35 PM
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Warner Brothers will go Blu-ray exclusive in May 2008.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0432340820080104 QUOTE Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:04pm EST NEW YORK/LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Time Warner Inc's (TWX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Warner Bros studio on Friday said it would exclusively release high-definition DVDs in Sony Corp's (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) Blu-ray format, dealing a big blow to Toshiba Corp's (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) rival HD DVD technology. Warner Bros, Hollywood's biggest seller of DVDs, representing about 18 to 20 percent of sales in the United States, was one of the few studios that backed both formats. All sides of the format war had agreed it was confusing to consumers and a stumbling block for a potential multibillion-dollar industry. Total DVD unit sales fell 4.5 percent in 2007, the first major year-over-year decline since the disc format debuted in 1997, according to Adams Media Research. Sales fell 4.8 percent to $15.7 billion. "The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger. We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers, and most importantly, consumers," Warner Bros Chairman and Chief Executive Barry Meyer said in a statement. News Corp's (NWSa.N: Quote, Profile, Research) 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Co (DIS.N: Quote, Profile, Research), and Lionsgate (LGF.N: Quote, Profile, Research) are among studios backing the Blu-ray format. Viacom Inc's (VIAb.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Paramount studios and General Electric's (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research) NBC Universal release movies in HD DVD format. Warner said it would continue releasing in the HD DVD format until the end of May, although those releases would follow the standard DVD and Blu-ray releases. So if you want high-def DVDs, Blu-ray is probably your safe bet as no doubt this will be the nail in the coffin for HD-DVD. |
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Jan 4 2008, 05:17 PM
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Jan 4 2008, 05:20 PM
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just because wb is going blu-ray doesn't mean blu-ray is going to win out, there are plenty of heavy-hitters in the hd-dvd camp, and dude wb sucks... you actually watch their movies?
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Jan 4 2008, 05:35 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Paramount/Dreamworks and Universal are the only two studios left exclusively supporting HD-DVD. It's a huge hit and I doubt HD-DVD will recover. I'd rather see HD-DVD win out, but oh well.
This is definitely a significant list of movies: http://www.imdb.com/company/co0026840/ |
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Jan 7 2008, 01:02 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Looks like New Line has followed them over as well...
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Jan 8 2008, 12:53 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
And now its being reported that Paramount/Dreamworks will be following suit. As much as I hate to say it, Blu-ray has won this deal. If you were on the fence about getting HD-DVD or Blu-ray, the choice is clear now.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ea637496-bd8d-11...?nclick_check=1 |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:32 PM
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Damn, I didn't expect something like this to be happening so quickly. It's a domino effect!
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Jan 8 2008, 02:53 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
fuckin shit. i wanted HD to win
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Jan 8 2008, 03:21 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Still just a rumor about Paramount, but IMHO it's over. Warner had the huge library to throw around.
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Jan 8 2008, 06:54 PM
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Paramount denies rumors: http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/paramount-denie.html
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Jan 9 2008, 09:44 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Yeah so did Warner a couple days before their switch.
Warner released a statement today mentioning why they switched: They're claiming recession and blah blah blah. My guess is the $500 million bribe (from the Blu-ray camp) rumor is true. http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNew...742944620080109 On another note: Digital Playground (leading HD-DVD pr0n producer) has dropped HD-DVD and gone Blu-ray exclusive as well. http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/08/ps3-o...p-to-the-plate/ |
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Jan 9 2008, 11:18 AM
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Apparently, microsoft is also considering dropping the HD-DVD add on in favor of a Blu-Ray add on if that's the "consumer choice."
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080...ry-blu-ray.html -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jan 10 2008, 09:39 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Yeah I read somethin yesterday that mentioned they would build a blu-ray addon for xbox 360 if indeed blu-ray won out.
Also looks like more rumors flyin but supposedly credible sources, sayin that both Paramount and Universal (last two HD-DVD exclusive studios) will make the switch in February due to contract stipulations expiring which will allow them to. http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/09/sourc...both-going-blu/ Anyhow yeah, this one is pretty much over. I got the top of the line stand alone players of both formats, kinda glad I got a mega deal on the HD-DVD one (was a display model w/o box that I got at less than half the retail price at the time)  .
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Jan 23 2008, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM) I'm thinking of getting a PS3 just because it is one of the cheapest ways to get a blue ray player. Plus I'll get to play NCAA08 too. And I want to take advantage of that offer to get 5 free movies even though the selection sucks. I'm just hoping blu ray discs don't become defunct like sony's umd movies. What offer is this? I just bought a PS3 and it came with lame ass Spiderman 3. I didn't even bother reading through all the literature that came with the system.....can I get some more free shit? I have one HD-DVD movie and like 4 BluRay movies....can't tell a damn difference. I just like BluRay cause the cases are cooler looking -------------------- |
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Jan 23 2008, 04:45 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
It is an offer from Sony, it should have printed a rebate & instructions with your receipt.
And yeah I have about 10-15 of each and have seen no difference in picture or sound quality. Definitely a difference from SD-DVD though. |
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Jan 23 2008, 05:08 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Any more news about Paramount?
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Jan 24 2008, 10:02 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Naw, supposedly their out-clause expires Jan 31st. So if they switch it'll probably be at least until Feb until we hear anything.
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Jan 24 2008, 10:48 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,566 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 66 |
I've got over 400 DVDs, not including the TV show sets (some which were 100 per season)....and Blu-Ray is just too damn expensive, and I dont wanna have to go re-purchase all my movies.
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Jan 24 2008, 11:00 AM
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i think the hd-dvd camp still has a few tricks up their sleeve, they're not gonna go down without a fight
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Jan 24 2008, 11:12 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Jan 24 2008, 10:48 AM) I've got over 400 DVDs, not including the TV show sets (some which were 100 per season)....and Blu-Ray is just too damn expensive, and I dont wanna have to go re-purchase all my movies. Well just like DVDs, they'll go down in price. I've gotten plenty in BOGO deals and for less than $20. I've only got about 100 DVDs, and only rebought a couple of my favorites in Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Although if I purchase a new movie, it's definitely HD-DVD or Blu-ray. |
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Jan 24 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Jan 24 2008, 10:48 AM) I've got over 400 DVDs, not including the TV show sets (some which were 100 per season)....and Blu-Ray is just too damn expensive, and I dont wanna have to go re-purchase all my movies. Word. I probably have about 300 RETAIL DVDs. I'm not even through getting the DVD versions of some of my favorite movies that I have on VHS. And some of them haven't even been released on DVD. An example is my favorite version of the Godfather Trilogy:   So for now I'm just gonna keep watching my DVDs and I'll fuck with BluRay later. I did hear that they were dropping the PS3 price to 299 soon so I might cop one. -------------------- Fuckmuffin. That word and muffintop are the two coolest things I've ever seen on this place. What would happen if a fuckmuffin fucked a chick with a muffintop? That's a lot of muffins. A lot of motherfuffin muffuckins.
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Jan 24 2008, 12:38 PM
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Yeah, my Farscape DVDs were $110 per season....so I'm sure if they ever released them on Blu-Ray, they would be like $175 per season. Cus they like to fuck with us dorks.
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Jan 24 2008, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Jan 24 2008, 12:38 PM) Yeah, my Farscape DVDs were $110 per season....so I'm sure if they ever released them on Blu-Ray, they would be like $175 per season. Cus they like to fuck with us dorks. Like you, I am gonna wait until the dust settles....don't wanna end up like Laserdisc! haha THIS...right there. If Blu-Ray wins out, then I'll do the same as Low and just get a PS3. -------------------- |
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Jan 24 2008, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Jan 24 2008, 12:34 PM) Word. I probably have about 300 RETAIL DVDs. I'm not even through getting the DVD versions of some of my favorite movies that I have on VHS. And some of them haven't even been released on DVD. An example is my favorite version of the Godfather Trilogy: So for now I'm just gonna keep watching my DVDs and I'll fuck with BluRay later. I did hear that they were dropping the PS3 price to 299 soon so I might cop one. You might like dvdprofiler if you haven't tried it before. It lets you keep an online database of your stuff, like this http://www.invelos.com |
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Jan 24 2008, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 24 2008, 01:37 PM) You might like dvdprofiler if you haven't tried it before. It lets you keep an online database of your stuff, like this http://www.invelos.com I use a webapp like this with my iPhone....let's me update the list on my computer or the iPhone, and let's me access from both also. Has a comments section, a tab to select which ones you've watched, and a rating section, and a section to let you know which ones have been loaned out. |
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Jan 24 2008, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 24 2008, 01:37 PM) You might like dvdprofiler if you haven't tried it before. It lets you keep an online database of your stuff, like this http://www.invelos.com I tried a program liked that once but it was pretty dull. That looks a lot better. Is it the free copy worth it or should I just buy it? -------------------- Fuckmuffin. That word and muffintop are the two coolest things I've ever seen on this place. What would happen if a fuckmuffin fucked a chick with a muffintop? That's a lot of muffins. A lot of motherfuffin muffuckins.
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Jan 24 2008, 04:38 PM
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Its free for up to 50 DVDs, then a one time fee to purchase the software. I like it because it has all the info you could ever want about the DVD, the ability to enter them by barcode, and its ability to customize and export all the data to XML or various other data files.
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Jan 25 2008, 10:00 AM
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Pretty interesting engadget article on the sales numbers after the warner announcement:
QUOTE Some were very quick to crown Blu-ray the winner when we learned that the Blu-ray player owned 93 percent of the HD movie market the week after Warner went Blu. Evidently the numbers were leaked and the NPD group was quick to respond in an attempt to clear things up. As expected, some we're just as quick to discount the Blu-ray success -- which is just as silly as saying the numbers alone mean Blu-ray has won. Two things happened that week that we're not so sure could continue forever; HD DVD sales were down, and Blu-ray sales were up. With some help from a a few promotions (free player with a new TV) -- stand-alone Blu-ray player sales were up 30 percent (22k, up from 15k) -- but this alone wasn't enough to shift HD DVD share from 40 percent down to 7. HD DVD only sold 1,758 stand-alone players during the same week, compared to 14,558 the week before. So while Blu-ray was up 30, HD DVD was down 88 percent. So it isn't that the Blu-ray sales were all that spectacular, but instead it was that HD DVD sales were way down. At this point it doesn't mean anything, but if it continues for more than a month then that's whole another story entirely.
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Feb 11 2008, 10:33 AM
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Looks like HD-DVD is coming back in sales, but another big announcement that will hurt:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/11/netfl...an-hd-dvd-soon/ QUOTE In what can only be classified as yet another crushing blow to the embattled HD DVD camp, rent-by-mail giant Netflix has just announced its intention to only stock Blu-ray titles in the future. Netflix justified its decision by pointing out the fact that most Hollywood studios seem to be converging solely around the Sony-backed format -- a fact that's all too familiar to Toshiba and friends. With both Blockbuster and now the 'Flix having eschewed HD DVD for BD, it's gonna get harder and harder to even find a place to rent those former discs in the first place, let alone one that has a decent selection.
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Feb 11 2008, 10:40 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
so when are blu-ray players going to stop being so expensive?
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Feb 11 2008, 10:52 AM
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Your guess is as good as mine... if HD-DVD drops completely then more manufacturers may start cranking out their own Blu-ray players and drive the cost down. Right now all I'm aware of is Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung.
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Feb 12 2008, 12:21 AM
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netflix is awesome, but this kinda saddens me.
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Feb 14 2008, 10:57 AM
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Michael Bay keeps reminding us he's a few fries short of a happy meal:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/14/micha...-hd-format-war/ QUOTE Finally, Michael Bay has stepped down from Cheese Mountain to pontificate on the finer points of the HD DVD vs. Blu-ray war. Speaking from the inner-sanctum of his lair -- located equidistant from the Church of Scientology and a gigantic cotton candy stand -- Mr. Bay reminds us that, "Blu-ray's better, and I told everyone," then goes on to further prop himself by adding, "I was very vocal about it. I knew HD [DVD] was not going to make it." We're glad that Bay can sleep at night, safe in the knowledge that the mere "quality" of the formats decided the winner of this battle, rather than massive business partnerships fueled by the desire for marketshare. He wrapped up his message (actually given at an awards ceremony held by the Visual Effects Society) by saying, "Am I thrilled? It really wasn't my fight, but remember what I said in the press? I was kind of saying HD [DVD]'s going to lose... No one believed me." He then slammed a trophy he was receiving to the floor, pointed to the packed room, and yelled, "In your face, HD DVD!" How this man made such an entertaining movie in Transformers is beyond belief |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 14 2008, 10:57 AM) How this man made such an entertaining movie in Transformers is beyond belief http://youtube.com/watch?v=ux6SmwawY4M "Those aren't ideas, those are special effects!" "I don't understand the difference." "I know you don't. Get him out of here." -------------------- |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:26 AM
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lol, "and the 18 wheeler is like BRAWWW and then WOOOOSH"
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Feb 15 2008, 08:28 AM
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Toshiba to drop HD DVD, sources say http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/conten...7d0bfb0c25aa58d
QUOTE Toshiba is widely expected to pull the plug on its HD DVD format sometime in the coming weeks, reliable industry sources say, after a rash of retail defections that followed Warner Home Video's announcement in early January that it would support only the rival Blu-ray Disc format after May. Officially, no decision has been made, insists Jodi Sally, vp of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products. "Based on its technological advancements, we continue to believe HD DVD is the best format for consumers, given the value and consistent quality inherent in our player offerings," she said. But she hinted that something's in the air. "Given the market developments in the past month," she said, "Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players." That last part is pretty convincing... |
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Feb 15 2008, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 14 2008, 10:57 AM) Michael Bay keeps reminding us he's a few fries short of a happy meal: http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/14/micha...-hd-format-war/ How this man made such an entertaining movie in Transformers is beyond belief Did you read the digg comments to this article. Fucking funny... http://digg.com/tech_news/Michael_Bay_sing...e_HD_format_war My favorite comment was: "He doesn't win the format war unless he's leaping away in slow-motion from an exploding warehouse full of HD-DVDs." -------------------- |
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Feb 15 2008, 12:23 PM
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Walmart goes Blu-ray only: http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/15/technology...dex.htm?cnn=yes
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Feb 15 2008, 12:36 PM
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Why the FUCK haven't they released Fletch on Blu Ray?
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Feb 15 2008, 02:06 PM
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remastering old flicks for bluray actually has a TON of production involved.
this is actually a pretty hella interesting article on the process: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/...hd-is-made.html -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Feb 18 2008, 10:38 AM
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The end is nigh.
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Feb 18 2008, 10:45 AM
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Looks like we'll find out for sure on Tuesday.
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Feb 18 2008, 12:40 PM
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I think we've pretty much found out already.
What is HD-DVD going to do to rebound...? I can only think of two things: slashing prices about 75% and "hoping" -------------------- |
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Feb 18 2008, 01:37 PM
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They're not going to rebound. I'd imagine if you already have a player and want cheap discs, there will be plenty available over the next several weeks. I'm tryin to decide if/when I'd jump on some $5-10 HD-DVDs.
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Feb 18 2008, 03:19 PM
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I think this is a little indicative of the winner as well...
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Feb 18 2008, 03:22 PM
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nevermind ignore that I'm dumb
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Feb 19 2008, 07:07 AM
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Toshiba finally throws in their gloves....
http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/19/technology...sion=2008021904 QUOTE Toshiba quits HD DVD business
Decision hands victory in DVD format battle to Sony-backed Blu-ray technology. February 19 2008: 4:36 AM EST TOKYO (AP) -- Toshiba said Tuesday it will no longer develop, make or market HD DVD players and recorders, handing a victory to rival Blu-ray disc technology in the format battle for next-generation video. "We concluded that a swift decision would be best," Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida told reporters at his company's Tokyo offices. The move would make Blu-ray - backed by Sony Corp (SNE)., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., which makes Panasonic brand products, and five major Hollywood movie studios - the winner in the battle over high-definition DVD formatting that began several years ago. Nishida said last month's decision by Warner Bros. Entertainment to release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format made the move inevitable. "That had tremendous impact," he said. "If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win." Warner joined Sony Pictures, Walt Disney Co (DIS, Fortune 500). and News Corp.'s (NWS, Fortune 500) Twentieth Century Fox in that move. Nishida said his company had confidence in HD DVD as a technology and tried to assure the estimated 1 million people, including some 600,000 people in North America, who already bought HD DVD machines by promising that Toshiba will continue to provide product support for the technology. Both HD DVD and Blu-ray deliver crisp, clear high-definition pictures and sound, which are more detailed and vivid than existing video technology. They are incompatible with each other, and neither plays on older DVD players. But both formats play on high-definition TVs. HD DVD was touted as being cheaper because it was more similar to previous video technology, while Blu-ray boasted bigger recording capacity. Only one video format has been expected to emerge as the victor, much like VHS trumped Sony's Betamax in the video format battle of the 1980s. Nishida said it was still uncertain what will happen with the Hollywood studios that signed to produce HD DVD movies, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation (DWA). Toshiba's pulling the plug on the technology is expected to reduce the number of new high-definition movies that people will be able to watch on HD DVD machines. Toshiba Corp. said shipments of HD DVD machines to retailers will be reduced and will stop by end of March. Sales in Blu-ray gadgets are now likely to pick up as consumers had held off in investing in the latest recorders and players because they didn't know which format would emerge dominant. Despite being a possible blow to Toshiba's pride, the exit will probably lessen the potential damage in losses in HD DVD operations. Goldman Sachs has said pulling out would improve Toshiba's profitability between $370 million to $460 million a year. The reasons behind Blu-ray's triumph over HD DVD are complex, as marketing, management maneuvers and other factors are believed to have played into the shift to Blu-ray's favor that became more decisive during the critical holiday shopping season. Once the balance starts tilting in favor of one in a format battle, then the domination tends to grow and become final, said Kazuharu Miura, an analyst at Daiwa Institute of Research in Tokyo. "The trend became decisive I think this year," he said. "When Warner made its decision, it was basically over." With movie studios increasingly lining up behind Blu-ray, retailers also began to stock more Blu-ray products. Friday's decision by Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT, Fortune 500)., the largest U.S. retailer, to sell only Blu-ray DVDs and hardware appeared to deal a final blow to the Toshiba format. Just five days earlier, Netflix Inc. (NFLX) said it will cease carrying rentals in HD DVD. Several major American retailers had already made similar decisions, including Target Corp. (TGT, Fortune 500) and Blockbuster Inc (BBI, Fortune 500). Also adding to Blu-ray's momentum was the gradual increase in sales of Sony's PlayStation 3 home video-game console, which also works as a Blu-ray player. Sony has sold 10.5 million PS3 machines worldwide since the machine went on sale late 2006. HD DVD supporters included Microsoft Corp (MSFT, Fortune 500)., Intel Corp (INTC, Fortune 500). and Japanese electronics maker NEC Corp. Microsoft's Xbox 360 game machine can play HD DVD movies, but the drive had to be bought separately, and Nishida said about 300,000 people have those. Worldwide sales of personal computers with HD DVD drives total about 300,000 worldwide, including 140,000 in North America and 130,000 in Europe, he said. Recently, the Blu-ray disc format has been gaining market share, especially in Japan. A study on fourth quarter sales last year by market researcher BCN Inc. found that by unit volume, Blu-ray made up 96 percent of Japanese sales. Sony said it did not have numbers on how many Blu-ray players had been sold globally. Toshiba's stock slipped 0.6% Tuesday to 824 yen after jumping 5.7% Monday amid reports that a decision was imminent. Sony shares climbed 2.2% to 5,010 yen after rising 1% Monday. Also Tuesday, Toshiba said it plans to spend more than $15.7 billion for two plants in Japan to produce sophisticated chips called NAND flash memory, which are used in portable music players and cell phones. Production there will start in 2010. To top of page |
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Feb 19 2008, 07:56 AM
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aw sad.
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Feb 19 2008, 09:03 AM
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Well, it's over. About damn time.
Looks like Sony finally got a victory!
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Feb 19 2008, 09:16 AM
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Hate to see Sony win, but not a big deal to me as I already had both players. Hopefully we'll see the big name movie titles start announcing coming out on BD now.
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Feb 19 2008, 08:36 PM
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I wonder what this means fo Xbox360 ..
I have a TV that will do 1080i or 480p ... I don't really wanna have to buy a PS3 .... heh
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Feb 19 2008, 08:59 PM
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Now im just gonna wait for a substantial price drop.
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Feb 20 2008, 03:16 PM
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rumor has it microsoft is shopping a bluray drive for the 360.
ick. i'm sorry i just can't support a format that is essentially a gussied-up Java whore. -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Feb 20 2008, 03:26 PM
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They announced a while back that they'd be open to making a BD addon for 360 if that was the format that was adopted. Everyone was screaming at them to include the HDDVD drives in their 360s, now they look like friggin geniuses.
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Feb 21 2008, 09:30 AM
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Haha doh...
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/21/hd-dv...at-war-fallout/  QUOTE In an attempt to clear their shelves of dead HD DVD weight, retailers are taking the obvious step of slashing prices. Others, like play.com are renaming the players. Thanks to the magic of Google cache, we see that Toshiba's "HD-EP30 HD DVD Player" (as it was known on February 15th) is now listed as the "HD-EP30 HDMI Upscaling Player with HD DVD High Definition Playback." Caveat emptor, as they say.
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Feb 21 2008, 09:59 AM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
That's awesome.
-------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Feb 26 2008, 12:37 PM
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Feb 26 2008, 12:59 PM
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That costs twice as much as my car!
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that's 17/26ths the price of my car! 17/30ths if you go MSRP
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Feb 26 2008, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 26 2008, 12:59 PM) That costs twice as much as my car! well you do have pretty much one of the cheapest cars possible to purchase |
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Feb 26 2008, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 26 2008, 01:40 PM) well you do have pretty much one of the cheapest cars possible to purchase Was also four years old when I get it. But it suits my needs, has great gas mileage, and has given me nary a problem in the two years I've had it. 
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Feb 26 2008, 03:25 PM
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Just sayin... you could prob have lots of dramatic "that costs as much as my car!" when you're using yours as a comparison
 My TV prob cost as much as your car 
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Feb 26 2008, 04:31 PM
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Haha, probably!
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Feb 29 2008, 03:55 PM
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pretty funny that the best selling high def disc this past week was HD-DVD even after it's announced by the developer that it's DEAD.
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Well if you have a player and already have a bunch of disks, why not nab more HD DVDs? Especially if they're effectively on clearance now...
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