Tech vs. Texas thread Options

[jwttu]

I'll start of by posting the coverage map. Luckily it looks like if we lose not many people will witness it.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/39/1110...abc330pmhz1.gif

[Oasis]

Wreck em! Hook em! Whatever!

One hour till tailgate. Can't fucking wait

[pysex]

WHO'S GONNA SUCK MORE?!

[Rocky]

Up until the recent weeks it was all TTU in my mind.


Jamaal Charles and Colt McCoy's scrambling win the game.


After McCoy throws another INT


This is all regardless of how well or bad Harrell plays.

[jonathan83]

we will!!!

[Psykopath]

FUCK YOU REFS! FUCK YOU!

THAT WAS NOT A TOUCHDOWN!!!

[jonathan83]

yeah that pisses me off, everyone knew that wasn't a TD!

[jonathan83]

w....t....f

[jonathan83]

alright, good game so far we've got going.

[zetec]

Poop on the short pass to end the half.

[zetec]

I have never seen a game where the refs have been as fucked up with who they decide to call as this one.

[Spectatrix]

My co-workers asked yesterday if I was going to the game. My response: "what game?" Note that I work for UT and they know I went to TTU.

[jonathan83]

i'm getting pissed off

[zetec]

lol 26 seconds for 8 points

we need a new defense

[zetec]

fuck this.

[jonathan83]

our defense looks like it's just giving up

[Mommy]

I wanted Tech to win because I felt UT was overrated.
However, I think McCoy is HAWT so I dont mind their win.

[Rocky]

Up until the recent weeks it was all TTU in my mind.
Jamaal Charles and Colt McCoy's scrambling win the game.
After McCoy throws another INT
This is all regardless of how well or bad Harrell plays.

[moebary]

our defense looks like it's just giving up

they've looked like this for at least the last 5 years (as long as I've watched them), this is nothing new




every year I hear people say that our defense has greatly improved, and every year our defense sucks

[jonathan83]

However, I think McCoy is HAWT so I dont mind their win.

serious? i thought he looked like a 12 year old little punk.

[Oasis]

One of the better UT games I've been to

Texas could beat any team in the country the way they're playing

And thank you to Vegas for setting the over/under at 62. Morons

[Mommy]

serious? i thought he looked like a 12 year old little punk.

[THECHICKEN]

Leach Rips Refs

AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas Tech coach Mike Leach ripped game officials Saturday, suggesting the crew favored Texas, after the Longhorns beat the Red Raiders 59-43.

Without naming him, Leach noted that referee Randy Christal lives in Austin.

"I think it's disturbing that Austin residents are involved in this. People work too hard, too long, there's too much money invested in these games to allow that," Leach said.

"Am I condemning the crew? Hell yeah, I'm condemning the crew," Leach said.

Big 12 official spokesman Bob Burda did not immediately respond to telephone messages seeking comment. Leach's rant will likely draw a fine from the league and possibly a suspension.

Leach was upset officials disallowed two Tech touchdowns in the third quarter. The first was overruled when video replay clearly showed the receiver let the ball hit the ground. On the next play, a touchdown pass was negated by a holding penalty. Leach also wanted, but didn't get, a flag for roughing the quarterback.

"Unless this can change, the Big 12 Conference needs to take a serious look at having out of conference officials officiate the Texas Tech-Texas games and perhaps other games where there is proven to be a bias by officiating," he said. "It's unfortunate and does the bowl picture enter into it? I don't know. Does the money enter into it? I don't know."

Leach's rant lasted for several minutes.

"It may be incompetence, bias, I don't know. Maybe it's something as simple as guys sitting over the water cooler at their office in Austin talking about how the great game they're going to see -- and then perhaps a preconceived notion develops as to how it's going to come out," he said.

Asked if expects to be punished by the league for his remarks, Leach said, "I expect to be coaching. I don't know what will happen but I'm not standing for this."

I support someone finally saying that UT gets preferencial treatment. Can't say we lost because of it, but we got a good fucking on a couple of plays...

[kcroxyoursox]

I agree. People always say "well if we would have played better than the refs wouldn't have mattered," but I think that's only true to a certain extent. We can't make progress if every time we get our heads above water we get a bucket of water dumped on us...

[Oasis]

Leach Rips Refs
I support someone finally saying that UT gets preferencial treatment. Can't say we lost because of it, but we got a good fucking on a couple of plays...

Exactly how the fuck does UT get preferential treatment?

I wonder how much Leach is gonna whine when UT's BCS appearance nets his school 1.2 million dollars.

[Seeker]

we got screwed by the refs

[THECHICKEN]

Exactly how the fuck does UT get preferential treatment?

I wonder how much Leach is gonna whine when UT's BCS appearance nets his school 1.2 million dollars.

When things are on the line they will give UT the benefit of the doubt. Where as, they look for penalties to call on the other team.

[impala454]

Been lurking a while just haven't posted much. I feel compelled to completely disagree with Leach. All of those calls were clearly correct in the replays. I love Leach as a coach, but the man was just wrong. It only looked like preferential treatment because we screwed up so many times in such a short time period.

That first controversial UT touchdown, the UT receiver's toe was clearly in. That first TD Leach referred to that we had called back, the ball clearly hit the ground. That second one, where we had the holding penalty, was blatantly holding, and there was clearly no roughing the passer, as Harrell was hit barely a split second after letting the ball go.

We simply got beat in Austin. Not too terribly surprising given our road record over the past several years. Our run defense has sucked ever since I went to Tech, and it's consistently how we get beat. When Jamaal Charles goes 165 yds in 18 carries in the first half, it's hard to win. When UT can use their rushing to put together drives that run 7 minutes off the clock and take up 18 plays, it's hard to win.

[Oasis]

Been lurking a while just haven't posted much. I feel compelled to completely disagree with Leach. All of those calls were clearly correct in the replays. I love Leach as a coach, but the man was just wrong. It only looked like preferential treatment because we screwed up so many times in such a short time period.

I'm not a huge Leach fan as a coach but he had a really good gameplan today

And so did Greg Davis. Davis had the best gameplan I've ever seen as a DC. Start stocking up on canned goods, the apocalypse is coming very soon

[jonathan83]

That first controversial UT touchdown, the UT receiver's toe was clearly in.

What? It doesn't matter that his toe was in, his heel was out! Even all the commentators agreed that he was out of bounds and it wasn't a TD.

I think that call helped UT's momentum, and that's what helped us getting screwed. I know those other plays of ours were bad, but we UT still didn't deserve that first TD.

Our offense did a pretty good job today, but our defense is the one who let them get that far ahead. Even will all their injuries, we couldn't keep up.

[impala454]

Well I don't give what the commentators say all that much credit usually. What I saw in the replay was his toe hit in first, before his heel went out. I'm not exactly sure how the rule works but I'd think that counts as in. If Leach wants to complain about that one call ruining the whole game, I suppose that's his prerogative, but it looks pretty childish IMO. I don't think it helped/changed UT's momentum at all, as they were marching it down the field at ~9 yards per carry without needing any help from the refs. It's the tackling specifically. Our guys are about the worst tacklers I've seen. They don't wrap up and try to strip the ball too much.

[jwttu]

we lost beause our defense spent way too much time on the field. We arent built for long grind it out teams

[RitalinJunkie]

Well I don't give what the commentators say all that much credit usually. What I saw in the replay was his toe hit in first, before his heel went out. I'm not exactly sure how the rule works but I'd think that counts as in. If Leach wants to complain about that one call ruining the whole game, I suppose that's his prerogative, but it looks pretty childish IMO. I don't think it helped/changed UT's momentum at all, as they were marching it down the field at ~9 yards per carry without needing any help from the refs. It's the tackling specifically. Our guys are about the worst tacklers I've seen. They don't wrap up and try to strip the ball too much.

Now comes the whole debate on "was the toe dragged, or did it only touch"

In the NCAA the toe touching doesn't mean anything, unless the heal comes down in bounds, but dragging the toes shows clear control of where you are landing....or some stupid shit like that.

However, aside from that, they showed later that the white in the endzone does not mark out of bounds. The pylons (which are a couple inches inside the white) do. Kind of a dishonest thing to do with the paint scheme of the field...but whatever.

[zetec]

The thing that pisses me off the most about this game is that offensively, we ran the fuck over them. Defensively, we just couldn't keep them from converting.

Oh, and the refs were sucking giant amounts of dick. I think that had something to do about it as well.

[Mommy]

Bitching only makes us sore losers.
I found the bright side... UT winning made 6th street hella fun last night.
Chear up, gang. There are many more games against UT to come... and many more times we will beat them. It will happen.

[Oasis]

Stop whining like little bitches.

Tech was outplayed by a better team. Simple as that. The refs had nothing to do with it. The same thing happened last year, in fact I remember joining a Facebook called "We got fucked by the refs!" or something and arguing endlessly about it. Tech fans thought the same thing last year

Stop collectively being cunts and take responsibility. You lost. To a much better team. Same as last year, the year before, the year before, etc. Crying and making excuses might make you feel a little better, but it doesn't change the end result. Grow the hell up.

[Epic]

will, normally i don't disagree with you just out of friendship and a need to save time.

but you've got no place telling people to grow up about football lol

[Mommy]

Stop whining like little bitches.

Tech was outplayed by a better team. Simple as that. The refs had nothing to do with it. The same thing happened last year, in fact I remember joining a Facebook called "We got fucked by the refs!" or something and arguing endlessly about it. Tech fans thought the same thing last year

Stop collectively being cunts and take responsibility. You lost. To a much better team. Same as last year, the year before, the year before, etc. Crying and making excuses might make you feel a little better, but it doesn't change the end result. Grow the hell up.

well, that wasnt very nice

[Oasis]

I don't like losing it but I did. Sorry

Stop making excuses is all I'll say. It's about as immature as my response.

By the way, the latest standings came out. OU is ranked ahead of Kansas. The OU who lost to Colorado, who Kansas beat. The OU who has one loss, which is one more than Kansas. If someone can rationally explain that, I'm all ears

[THECHICKEN]

Stop whining like little bitches.

Tech was outplayed by a better team. Simple as that. The refs had nothing to do with it. The same thing happened last year, in fact I remember joining a Facebook called "We got fucked by the refs!" or something and arguing endlessly about it. Tech fans thought the same thing last year

Stop collectively being cunts and take responsibility. You lost. To a much better team. Same as last year, the year before, the year before, etc. Crying and making excuses might make you feel a little better, but it doesn't change the end result. Grow the hell up.

Funny how it happened last year indeed.

And no one is saying we lost because of refs. We are saying the refs sucked balls and favored UT as always.

so stop being a whiney cunt that your team gets all the ref love

[cmac]

If someone can rationally explain that, I'm all ears

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
that should explain it.

[The Fanatic]

I don't like losing it but I did. Sorry

Stop making excuses is all I'll say. It's about as immature as my response.

By the way, the latest standings came out. OU is ranked ahead of Kansas. The OU who lost to Colorado, who Kansas beat. The OU who has one loss, which is one more than Kansas. If someone can rationally explain that, I'm all ears

Well, Kansas can prove them wrong at the big 12 championship

[Erik B.]

I don't like losing it but I did. Sorry

Stop making excuses is all I'll say. It's about as immature as my response.

By the way, the latest standings came out. OU is ranked ahead of Kansas. The OU who lost to Colorado, who Kansas beat. The OU who has one loss, which is one more than Kansas. If someone can rationally explain that, I'm all ears

I'm looking at the standings, and KU is #3 and OU is #4 in the BCS rankings. Isn't that the one that really counts in the end?

[Hartmann]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Av...p&type=lgns


I don't think we lost because of the refs but I think there were some definite missed calls and poor judgment.

The call on his heel being out, that they continually showed on the jumbotron really looked like he was out of bounds. Every Longhorn around us figured that the call would be reversed and when it wasn't, they were pretty much astonished.

On the play where McCoy got thrown into the end zone there were about 3 calls that could have been made there, I saw a linemen jump (as did everyone seated around me) and two missed holding calls.

The dropped pass in the end zone was a dropped pass. The holding, in my opinion was weak, to say the least.

There were two late hits, one where the pass was dropped in the end zone and one just a little earlier in the game, neither was called.

It was just frustrating to watch and listen to Longhorn fans be just as appalled by the calls as I was.

[hodge]

I'm looking at the standings, and KU is #3 and OU is #4 in the BCS rankings. Isn't that the one that really counts in the end?

the bcs computer averages 1part computer score 2 parts voting score, so a bad voting score can bump them down(had kansas had a 3 rank in the polls they would prob be number 2). its all moot though, kansas still has to play missouri and a win there will push them to number 2 most likely... of course then the winner will have to play the big12 champ... fun lineup.

[jonathan83]

the bcs computer averages 1part computer score 2 parts voting score, so a bad voting score can bump them down(had kansas had a 3 rank in the polls they would prob be number 2). its all moot though, kansas still has to play missouri and a win there will push them to number 2 most likely... of course then the winner will have to play the big12 champ... fun lineup.

yeah, i think whoever wins the big 12 title will be bumped up enough to at least the #2 spot, because they'll have beaten 2 of the other big 12 teams in the top 6.

[jonathan83]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Av...p&type=lgns
I don't think we lost because of the refs but I think there were some definite missed calls and poor judgment.

The call on his heel being out, that they continually showed on the jumbotron really looked like he was out of bounds. Every Longhorn around us figured that the call would be reversed and when it wasn't, they were pretty much astonished.

On the play where McCoy got thrown into the end zone there were about 3 calls that could have been made there, I saw a linemen jump (as did everyone seated around me) and two missed holding calls.

The dropped pass in the end zone was a dropped pass. The holding, in my opinion was weak, to say the least.

There were two late hits, one where the pass was dropped in the end zone and one just a little earlier in the game, neither was called.

It was just frustrating to watch and listen to Longhorn fans be just as appalled by the calls as I was.

there was also that call against Duckett (i think). whenever McCoy was "thrown down" after the play was called dead, a few people who were at the game told me that was a bad call. McCoy kinda made it look worse than it was by throwing himself down a bit, when our guy pushed him just as the whistle was blowing or something.

[woody]

i think also another call that was missed was when the lineman tossed mccoy foward. i don't think TTU got fucked, the toe heel thing i thought was going to be reversed.

if you go back & look at all the games in any football game, i'm sure there are alot of missed calls on both sides