mexican flag, on top Options

[Divergent Realit...]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nal3RP9il3A

a video of what happened when a mexican flag was flown above an american flag.

[Jim]

Nice. Way to go wetbacks.

[cmac]

it's a flag.
loser.
lets fight.

[cupcake]

it's a flag.
loser.
lets fight.

nice...dude has cajones.

it's a law dude...

you don't have to fight, but you should contact the authorities.

[False Dude]

That dude has a sweet beard.

[cmac]

laws over fabric are pointless.

[cupcake]

laws over fabric are pointless.

fabric? obviously you've never fought for an ideal.

you are lucky you have people like him to work to ensure you can be an mouthy spoiled kid.

[Billy]

laws over fabric are pointless.

fuck you.

[GOB]

fucking mexicans

no comment because no speak english

[Erik B.]

I've been looking and I haven't found any law that states that a flag can't fly above the American flag. I did find the executive order regarding the display of flags.

It says:
When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

It also says:
The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on... (insert list of federal holidays, etc. here.


So if we're going by this, then I'm breaking the law right now because I'm not flying the flag, when the executive order specifically says that it should be flown on ALL DAYS.

I also found this interesting tidbit:
All ... details of the flag are dealt with by Executive Order. This orders is only binding on the Executive Department of the federal government. It has no binding effect on any civilian, or, for that matter, on any other department of the federal government, nor on any State governments or their subdivisions. the text of the Executive order may be seen here.


Any law outlining how the flag MUST be displayed would be a violation of the 1st amendment, would it not?

[FORSAKENR320]

FLY THAT

[jonathan83]

I've been looking and I haven't found any law that states that a flag can't fly above the American flag. I did find the executive order regarding the display of flags.

It says:
When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

It also says:
The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on... (insert list of federal holidays, etc. here.
So if we're going by this, then I'm breaking the law right now because I'm not flying the flag, when the executive order specifically says that it should be flown on ALL DAYS.

I also found this interesting tidbit:
All ... details of the flag are dealt with by Executive Order. This orders is only binding on the Executive Department of the federal government. It has no binding effect on any civilian, or, for that matter, on any other department of the federal government, nor on any State governments or their subdivisions. the text of the Executive order may be seen here.
Any law outlining how the flag MUST be displayed would be a violation of the 1st amendment, would it not?

haha, amazing what google will find

according to Federal Law it is illegal as outlined in the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10:

§175. Position and manner of display:

© No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof.

[pysex]

Oh yeah.

And cmac...it's not just because it was a mexican flag...

Here in austin there was a jag dealership (around 183 and lakeline) that was flying a british flag above the u.s. flag...


yeah people stormed that place and had it taken down


it's not so much that it's fabric but it's a representation of our country and what we are...no american is going to want another country's flag flown above our own in our own country

[cmac]

i know.
a flag doesn't mean anything to me.
it's still fabric.
i understand though.

[impala454]

Yeah go to some black ghetto neighborhood and fly a buncha dixie flags off your car... I mean, it's just fabric right?

[cmac]

haha.
yep. still fabric.

[impala454]

sweet... make sure you videotape yourself doin this, and informing the local residents that it's just fabric.

[Erik B.]

haha, amazing what google will find

I'm quoting this from a government website, which I assume would have an official status. This is written in explanation of the text you quoted, Title 36, Chapter 10.

The Code is designed 'for the use of such civilian groups of organizations as may not be required to conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments' of the federal government, such as the armed forces. The Flag Code does not prescribe any penalties for non-compliance nor does it include enforcement provisions. Rather, it functions as a guide to be voluntarily followed by civilians and civilian groups.

While the Code empowers the President of the United States to alter, modify, repeal or prescribe additional rules regarding the Flag, no federal agency has the authority to issue 'official' rulings legally binding on civilians or civilian groups. Consequently, different interpretations of various provisions of the Code may continue to be made. The Flag Code may be fairly tested: 'No disrespect should be shown to the Flag of the United States of America.' Therefore, actions not specifically included in the Code may be deemed acceptable as long as proper respect is shown.

[cmac]

it's still fabric but i definitely know that that's the minority opinion.
i'm not stupid enough to do that.

[FORSAKENR320]

i know.
a flag doesn't mean anything to me.
it's still fabric.
i understand though.

so..... you are an unpatriotic anti-gun advocate who has grown up extremely sheltered...... (what else am i missing here?)


conclussion so far..... HIPPY

[cmac]

yep.

not sheltered though.
i have street smarts.

[FORSAKENR320]

yep.

not sheltered though.
i have street smarts.

bars on windows are a good sign that there is something valueble in the house......


i want bars on my windows...




ZOMBIES

[TetraGrammaton C...]

I think that our procedural inadequacies are not what, so diligently, drive away new members.

I think it is often our fervent, over-emotional and often ignorant discussions in which people take sides particularly quickly, often by way of insult rather than counter-argument.

There is an apparent and immediate disregard for any opinion but that of the speaker. There is no attempt to empathize and then explain logically how your opinions deviate, but instead a childish spewing of the speaker's own inadequacies projected on to that of his/her proposed opponent.

These tend to lead to preconceived agree/disagree notions with the same poster in other threads. This appears to snowball out of control and self-justify the lack of argument. That is, we begin to disagree with the person, rather than the idea.

There is no easy way to mod this. This is the responsibility of the individual poster (to enter a state of intelligent, informed discussion in which their will be disagreements, but those disagreements will be handled with respect).

People on this board have very little respect for each other. Similarly to the flag law, it should be the only rule and measure we follow. Every rule we make and do not make, every statement we make or withhold, should be done out of respect for ourselves and one another.

[FORSAKENR320]

I think that our procedural inadequacies are not what, so diligently, drive away new members.

I think it is often our fervent, over-emotional and often ignorant discussions in which people take sides particularly quickly, often by way of insult rather than counter-argument.

There is an apparent and immediate disregard for any opinion but that of the speaker. There is no attempt to empathize and then explain logically how your opinions deviate, but instead a childish spewing of the speaker's own inadequacies projected on to that of his/her proposed opponent.

These tend to lead to preconceived agree/disagree notions with the same poster in other threads. This appears to snowball out of control and self-justify the lack of argument. That is, we begin to disagree with the person, rather than the idea.

There is no easy way to mod this. This is the responsibility of the individual poster (to enter a state of intelligent, informed discussion in which their will be disagreements, but those disagreements will be handled with respect).

People on this board have very little respect for each other. Similarly to the flag law, it should be the only rule and measure we follow. Every rule we make and do not make, every statement we make or withhold, should be done out of respect for ourselves and one another.

shut up girlie-man

[TetraGrammaton C...]

shut up girlie-man

"There is no attempt to empathize and then explain logically how your opinions deviate, but instead a childish spewing of the speaker's own inadequacies projected on to that of his/her proposed opponent."

[FORSAKENR320]

"There is no attempt to empathize and then explain logically how your opinions deviate, but instead a childish spewing of the speaker's own inadequacies projected on to that of his/her proposed opponent."

that was the intent of my reply. it's funny because it's true

[Oasis]

haha.
yep. still fabric.

I respect your opinion more than a lot of people on here, but damn dude. It's what the flag stands for, not what it's made of. Hell, money is just paper if you think about it. If you wanna swap your $100 bills for some of my construction paper lmk.

[cmac]

true. i understand.
i'm not patriotic so that makes it easier.
i don't plan on disrespecting anyone on purpose by doing anything with a flag like the video either.
i know my place.

[Oasis]

true. i understand.
i'm not patriotic so that makes it easier.
i don't plan on disrespecting anyone on purpose by doing anything with a flag like the video either.
i know my place.

Neither am I. The current administration has damned near made me despise the government. I'll still respect the flag and what it stands for though.....even though it stands for utter garbage nowadays

[Jim]

Patriotism isn't standing blindly behind an administration.

It's saying 'murica.

[jonathan83]

true. i understand.
i'm not patriotic so that makes it easier.
i don't plan on disrespecting anyone on purpose by doing anything with a flag like the video either.
i know my place.

what do you mean by not being patriotic? you dont like the USA? you arent proud to be american? you'd rather be of a different nationality and live somewhere else? you agree more with the laws of other countries, or what?

[jonathan83]

Neither am I. The current administration has damned near made me despise the government. I'll still respect the flag and what it stands for though.....even though it stands for utter garbage nowadays

but just because you dont like the administration doesnt mean you have to be unpatriotic and not respect the flag. i mean, the flag still stands for a ton of people who have died for us, etc. etc.
one administration shouldn't make you think you hate america.

[Oasis]

but just because you dont like the administration doesnt mean you have to be unpatriotic and not respect the flag. i mean, the flag still stands for a ton of people who have died for us, etc. etc.
one administration shouldn't make you think you hate america.

I do respect the flag. Never would I burn one or disrespect one in any way.

My annoyance doesn't completely have to do with the administration, just the current state of America. The citizens are just as much to blame as Bush.

somewhat back on topic, my patriotism and my feeling about our current government have nothing to do with each other

This

[jonathan83]

ok yeah, i can agree with that