 TxDOT is broke |
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 Sep 28 2007, 08:55 AM
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5171257.html
 Guess that means more toll roads... (somehow my original post was deleted) -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Oct 1 2007, 09:22 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
QUOTE In 2009, officials will remove $225 million in maintenance funds from rural areas in West Texas, where most roads are in good shape, and shift the money to coastal and metropolitan regions, where one in five roads needs repairs. A bigger hit would take place in 2011 and 2012, when officials cancel $865 million set aside for new road lanes and stick it into maintenance. those are the parts im interested in. do west texas maintenance funds being scratched out inhibit the buttload of construction lubbock has been strangled with for the past 4 years? id definitely think the later part would affect it as the marsha sharp freeway construction is supposed to be winding down by then. but i was impressed with how quickly they got the south west portion up and have seen crews working on saturdays and late at night around brownfield and 19th -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Oct 1 2007, 09:25 PM
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30% of all txdot's income goes towards education... unfortunately throwing money at the education system isn't going to make it better, it's inherently broken from the inside and needs redesigned from the ground up
step number 1 to fix this: give txdot back their money and quit raping them |
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Oct 1 2007, 09:41 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
dont all the lottery stuff go towards education as well? and that 30%? jesus!
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Oct 1 2007, 09:50 PM
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well some of the road construction i just don't get... here in houston they just completed redoing the north loop between 59 and 45 to a very nice 12 lanes... but wtf does it matter when it still chokes to two lanes when you go underneath 45!?
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Oct 1 2007, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (1up @ Oct 1 2007, 10:25 PM)  30% of all txdot's income goes towards education... Not to be an asshole but can I have a source? --------------------  |
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Oct 1 2007, 10:04 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 2 |
When this news came out I talked with a co-worker here at McAfee that used to work for TxDot. The guy is reliable and trust-worthy so I don't doubt his information is accurate.
I don't feel like searching the Internet or care enough to find a source, you can do that yourself if you want. |
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Oct 1 2007, 11:00 PM
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 Group: Moderators Posts: 885 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Lubbock, Texas Member No.: 12 |
the only thing i can find that would be taking money from txdot for the school system is "specialized license plate revenue"
but it could be hidden under something ambiguous. Here is the link for the most current funding info (see page 133) http://www.tea.state.tx.us/research/pdfs/2...comp_annual.pdf ::EDIT:: I overlooked the "OTHER FUNDS" section and they also get money from "highway funds" This post has been edited by jwttu: Oct 1 2007, 11:03 PM |
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Oct 2 2007, 06:00 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
The way I understand it, TxDOT has had funds pulled from it to other places (ie. the road repair money) and this is driving the downward spiral.
Not only does this take away from new development but will also hinder normal repairs. Impala, the reason for them not expanding the flyovers and merges at the spot you mentioned and a few other places are because of right-of-way issues. There is not a lot of space anymore and it would require them to buy up more land, but that land is owned by some larger corporations. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Oct 2 2007, 06:03 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 26-June 06 From: San Marcos and San Antonio Member No.: 221 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 1 2007, 10:41 PM) dont all the lottery stuff go towards education as well? and that 30%? jesus! The lottery funds go into the General Fund. From this, it is all spread out. In all, education really doesn't get much of the pot. It goes to other bureaucratic entities, like Parks and Wildlife. That's why we had a cigarette tax increase. I thought the lotto funds went straight to Education because that's their favorite thing to boast, but quite the opposite. |
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Oct 2 2007, 08:17 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 2 2007, 07:00 AM) Impala, the reason for them not expanding the flyovers and merges at the spot you mentioned and a few other places are because of right-of-way issues. There is not a lot of space anymore and it would require them to buy up more land, but that land is owned by some larger corporations. well I dunno about the other areas of town, but that eastbound section of 610 that runs under 45 easily has room for 1-2 more lanes. easily 2 if they give up shoulder space (which isn't a big deal on an interchange anyhow). |
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Oct 2 2007, 11:30 PM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 885 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Lubbock, Texas Member No.: 12 |
QUOTE (Melanie @ Oct 2 2007, 07:03 AM) The lottery funds go into the General Fund. From this, it is all spread out. In all, education really doesn't get much of the pot. It goes to other bureaucratic entities, like Parks and Wildlife. That's why we had a cigarette tax increase. I thought the lotto funds went straight to Education because that's their favorite thing to boast, but quite the opposite. according to this the only place other than education where the money goes is in prizes, and administrative costs http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/defa...ey-Goes_WEB.jpg |
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Oct 3 2007, 10:21 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 26-June 06 From: San Marcos and San Antonio Member No.: 221 |
QUOTE (jwttu @ Oct 3 2007, 12:30 AM) according to this the only place other than education where the money goes is in prizes, and administrative costs http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/defa...ey-Goes_WEB.jpg Yeah, it goes into the general fund. There are some House Bills that were brought in to the Education Committee to relook at this. They didn't pass. |
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