 College Newspaper, Tase this, @#$% Bush! |
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 Sep 25 2007, 11:54 AM
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http://journotips.blogspot.com/2007/09/sch...ays-f-bush.html
What a stupid way to ask for free speech. Yes, because Bush ordered the tasing...  Paging Lance for conspiracy theories. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 11:58 AM
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that is so awesome. haha.
good for them. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 25 2007, 11:59 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 25 2007, 12:58 PM)  that is so awesome. haha. good for them. It's like the blind trying to lead the stupid. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:14 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
that rules, it's awesome when people do that kinda stuff and realize why it's not done here in the real world.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:16 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
If I wrote for a paper that printed that, I would quit my job. That's very unprofessional, and if I were those editors I wouldnt put that job on my resume.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:18 PM
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Group: Moderators Posts: 1,591 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 31 |
it doesn't appear that the guy cares. the newspaper isn't regulated by anyone. they can do what they want.
beauty of free speech. it's funny people fight for it and then get upset when people use it. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:21 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
i dont see what the problem is
the point isnt that "bush ordered the tasering" thats stupid -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Sep 25 2007, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Sep 25 2007, 01:21 PM) i dont see what the problem is that is because you hate america. |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:23 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
you're tiring
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Sep 25 2007, 12:34 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Sep 25 2007, 01:21 PM) i dont see what the problem is the point isnt that "bush ordered the tasering" thats stupid I don't care that they used the F bomb. Use it all they want. I think it says a lot about them though and the tasing comment just makes them look like ignorant Bush haters. It's the same thing with the General Be-Tray-Us ads. I could really care less about the free speech issue. Curse away, it's your paper. I just hate stupid commentary. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:38 PM
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trying to relate it to the taser thing was kinda stupid. there's obviously no relation.
but the point is they can say what they want and they got everyone's attention by doing it. so job well done. This post has been edited by cmac: Sep 25 2007, 12:40 PM -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:38 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
commentary has the right to be stupid. im not expecting an article coming out of CSU to be Pulitzer prize winning. it should be ethical and unbiased but i dont believe this was written as a straight news report
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Sep 25 2007, 12:42 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
I don't expect them to be Pulitzer winning either but I do expect some sort of journalistic appeal.
It seems as though we are all going the way of jokes and strange humor to get our points across instead of writing thoughtful articles. cmac, this has nothing to do with free speech. I don't have an issue with the F-Bush comment, I just thought their putting tasing and Bush together was a poor attempt at being funny. I'd like an example of how democrats and republicans are any different in your terms of how one uses propaganda and how the other uses free speech. That's asinine. For all I know, the democrats just use flat out lies, *cough* Dan Rather *cough* -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:48 PM
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damn. you caught me. i thought that part was inappropriate for this thread. i deleted that part.
relating it to the taser thing is kind of dumb. wasn't there a "poor attempt at being funny" in the tech paper last semester? a comic or something? and dan rather didn't lie. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:49 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 25 2007, 01:38 PM) so job well done. sure, if your job as a newspaper editor is to grab 15 seconds of fame, lose most of the paper's advertising money, and lose your job. |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:53 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 25 2007, 01:48 PM) and dan rather didn't lie. Oh, sorry, he used unsubstantiated reports (something he was supposed to be doing, you know, reporting) and falsified documents and presented them as fact... I dunno, that just sounds familiar to what democrats describe the right doing for their case on the war. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 25 2007, 01:42 PM) It seems as though we are all going the way of jokes and strange humor to get our points across instead of writing thoughtful articles. I read an article (can't find the site) that interviewed one of the newspapers staff and he said something along the lines of: We have been bashing Bush all year with thoughtful articles and keen insights and it did not even remotely garner as much attention as the Fuck Bush editorial. So it seems that in order to stir up debate you have to be blunt, but idk... --------------------  |
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Sep 25 2007, 12:57 PM
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rather presented correct information from false (forged) sources.
the right's case on the war is false information from real sources. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 25 2007, 01:48 PM) and dan rather didn't lie. read "bias" or "stolen valor"...dude lied about being a marine and other exagerrations about his military service. rather was a flat out liar. |
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Sep 25 2007, 01:06 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 25 2007, 01:57 PM) rather presented correct information from false (forged) sources. the right's case on the war is false information from real sources. No, most of the information was incorrect. With the source being false how did he get the info? Who was the correct source? Since there was none, that would imply the information was made up. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 01:09 PM
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they were real forged sources.
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Sep 25 2007, 01:09 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 25 2007, 02:06 PM) No, most of the information was incorrect. With the source being false how did he get the info? Who was the correct source? Since there was none, that would imply the information was made up. Wouldn't made up constitute false? -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 25 2007, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE While Knox vouched for the contents of the documents, she did not authenticate the documents in question themselves: "I know that I didn’t type them," says Knox. "However, the information in those is correct"
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Sep 25 2007, 01:15 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 25 2007, 02:09 PM) they were real forged sources. So he forged sources that existed but were unwilling to share the info? In that case, the information was made up and given a seal of approval that it was true by forging the source. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE While Knox vouched for the contents of the documents, she did not authenticate the documents in question themselves: "I know that I didn’t type them," says Knox. "However, the information in those is correct" Wow, clarification after the fact... Again, sounds familiar. You're trying to make it seem like the democrat's shit doesn't stink. It does. And it stinks just as bad as a republicans. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 25 2007, 01:17 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 25 2007, 02:16 PM) Wow, clarification after the fact... Again, sounds familiar. You're trying to make it seem like the democrat's shit doesn't stink. It does. And it stinks just as bad as a republicans. qft -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Sep 25 2007, 02:16 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
dan rather is an unfortunate case. but he still wasnt the president of the united states and his people lieing to the mass public in a time of distress
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Sep 25 2007, 02:20 PM
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email I got an hour ago...
"they just need to send us to Afghanistan and let the pogues deal with this bullshit. The pogues are in charge anyway, we never make them happy, anyway. We might as well go fight a real war instead of risking our lives for nothing. I've been forcing myself not to tell my Battalion Commander to shove the commission up his ass and that I'm leaving the US, because it's obviously full of retards since they elected that fuckstick twice." lol |
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Sep 25 2007, 06:40 PM
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Sep 25 2007, 07:09 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Sep 25 2007, 03:20 PM) email I got an hour ago... "they just need to send us to Afghanistan and let the pogues deal with this bullshit. The pogues are in charge anyway, we never make them happy, anyway. We might as well go fight a real war instead of risking our lives for nothing. I've been forcing myself not to tell my Battalion Commander to shove the commission up his ass and that I'm leaving the US, because it's obviously full of retards since they elected that fuckstick twice." lol Fuckstick... HAHAHA -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Sep 26 2007, 12:44 AM
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i worked at the refinery that gave Denver almost all their heating oil.
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Sep 26 2007, 11:14 AM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
I just love how that guy was all like "I wouldnt do it again" after the companies that give money to the paper started pulling their ads". Just goes to show that money is always a bigger motivator, sadly.
I guess he doesn't care about free speech as much as he thought. -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Sep 26 2007, 11:47 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
since when do you have to print "FUCK BUSH" in a newspaper to care about free speech?
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Sep 26 2007, 12:33 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (RitalinJunkie @ Sep 26 2007, 12:14 PM) I just love how that guy was all like "I wouldnt do it again" after the companies that give money to the paper started pulling their ads". Just goes to show that money is always a bigger motivator, sadly. I guess he doesn't care about free speech as much as he thought. Money speaks louder than words. 
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Oct 6 2007, 08:17 AM
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Editor keeps his job
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/05/cnnu.editor/index.html -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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