how propoganda works Options

[Seeker]

i'm sure you all know how it works, but this is a pretty good article

http://home.att.net/~bob.wallace/howpropagandaworks.html

[RitalinJunkie]

people like lance spread it.......

[Seeker]

i spread truth to combat propaganda from the gov, obviously you buy everything the gov says hook, line, and sinker

your mom spreads her legs, for me

[impala454]

i spread truth to combat propaganda from the gov, obviously you buy everything the gov says hook, line, and sinker

well we do elect the people that are in there...

if ron paul wins the presidency will you believe him?

[Seeker]

ron paul is not like most politicians, he's trust-worthy and hasn't sold out to the illuminati, so yes i'll trust him

[impala454]

i think he's aight too... so will you trust all the people he appoints, etc etc?

[Seeker]

there's no way i could say yes/no to that until i personally research the backgrounds/histories of the people he appoints

going with ron paul's track record i would be more apt to trust his appointees, but i'm not going to just blindly follow and agree with whomever he appoints without research

[impala454]

so if he wins, and his NSA (which you have researched and determined trustworthy by now) comes out and says there's been intelligence of WMD in some country where it's not supposed to be and recommends we invade, that's cool with you?

[blaarg]

Lance, did you support Kinky?

[Divergent Realit...]

Propaganda works both ways....therefore Lance spreads propoganda for his prefered ideals/conspiracy theories/get rich pyramid schemes

~ Ritalinjunkie

[Seeker]

get rich pyramid schemes?

[Seeker]

so if he wins, and his NSA (which you have researched and determined trustworthy by now) comes out and says there's been intelligence of WMD in some country where it's not supposed to be and recommends we invade, that's cool with you?

have you ever heard ron paul's stance on foreign policy? he's a strict isolationist and would never resort to an invasion unless he exhausted all diplomatic avenues

and even if ron paul wins the presidency that doesn't mean we get an all-new nsa and cia... people work there for lifetimes and the neo-cons that work there now are not going to retire when/if ron paul is elected... it'll still be the same lying nsa/cia, the good thing about ron paul is he'll be able to see right through their lies

[Seeker]

Lance, did you support Kinky?

it was tough, instead of voting libertarian like i usually do i voted for kinky

[impala454]

have you ever heard ron paul's stance on foreign policy? he's a strict isolationist and would never resort to an invasion unless he exhausted all diplomatic avenues

and even if ron paul wins the presidency that doesn't mean we get an all-new nsa and cia... people work there for lifetimes and the neo-cons that work there now are not going to retire when/if ron paul is elected... it'll still be the same lying nsa/cia, the good thing about ron paul is he'll be able to see right through their lies

well you kinda avoided the point of the question. to put it more blunt, if ron paul came out and said X country has been violating UN weapons sanctions for five years and we need to go take care of it, would you support him?

[Seeker]

dude, i can see you asking me a question like that that might have some remote possibility of occurring, but that will never in a million years happen, ron paul would never let a u.s. army invade another country unless we were in clear/present danger and under attack from an invading army (not terrorists created and funded by the cia)

that's like me asking you if bush came out and said he was withdrawing all troops from iraq, ending the war on terrorism, and sending good-will baskets with flowers and candy to all the countries in the world if you would support him

[impala454]

that's all the answer i was really looking for anyways.

[TetraGrammaton C...]

president = puppet

[GOB]

i voted for kinky

i'm sure rick perry appreciates your support

[Seeker]

i'm sure rick perry appreciates your support

what, you want me to vote democrat just because there's a minute chance a democrat might beat perry? i don't agree with the democrats so why should i vote for them? i definitely don't agree with perry and would never vote for him

we will never have a viable third party if idiots keep using your flawed logic and only voting for republicans or democrats, until people wake up we'll always have a two-party system and idiots will keep using your flawed logic, vicious cycle

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Mahatma Gandhi

if you don't want a two party system, follow that gandhi quote and vote for a third party

[impala454]

i don't think the libertarian party really is a separate party. they share too many views with the republican party. what do you see as the differences in the two? (other than the intangible "zomg republikans are corrupt" kinda crap). i.e. is there some fundamental issue that is completely opposite of what the republican party generally views?

[Seeker]

what the republicans say they are for is not what they actually support in practice

they preach a few libertarian ideals but pass totalitarian and socialist stuff in congress, and spend a few trillion dollars over their budget

actions speak louder than words and currently what republicans classify themselves and preach (conservative) is not what they actually do once elected

libertarians and republicans are not the same in any way, shape, or form

republicans = democrats lite

[Spectatrix]

Libertarians are fiscal conservatives and and social liberals. Maximum personal freedom, maximum personal responsibility. They support decentralization and non-aggression in laws and foreign policies.

[impala454]

they preach a few libertarian ideals but pass totalitarian and socialist stuff in congress, and spend a few trillion dollars over their budget

ok this brings me to my point pretty well... what kind of "stuff" do the libertarians pass in congress or how do their budgets work out? oh wait that's right there's no past record to show this. so in essence, what you have from the libertarians is exactly what replublicans have done. both parties have the same stance on a lot of issues. and those issues that they don't agree on, there's not enough people who go those ways (which is why they don't get elected).

i'm not saying there's anything wrong w/the party, i just honestly don't think you'd see much difference from the republicans to the libertarians if they actually held office.

[Seeker]

since the republicans aren't practicing what they preach then the next logical step is to throw them out and elect someone else who's policies you agree with

you can't totally discount one party just because they haven't held an office of any significance yet... libertarians are one of the key groups railing the republicans for their lies etc... you're telling me you won't see a change if libertarians took over?

your logic is so flawed i don't even know where to being with this

that's like saying we shouldn't have made george washington president just because he never held office before and that we wouldn't see much change from king george's policies while under british rule

[impala454]

i guess what i'm getting at is, how do you know the libertarian you like will practices what he preaches?

[Spectatrix]

Well you have to look at their track record if they've held any kind of public office. Ron Paul, for instance, votes against unbalanced budgets, most spending bills, and legislation that he think should be left to the states.

[impala454]

right, but there is no track record for them as a party. i'm not saying we should vote based on party, but this is stemming from the "why don't we have a 3rd party in our system" question.

[impala454]

for the record i personally like ron paul and wouldn't mind seeing him as president.

[Psykopath]

Lance: was it really necessary to ban Glen (RitalinJunkie) for making a harmless joke?

[Seeker]

some people haven't learned not to bash the man with the ban button

some people i let slide, ex. impala and others, because i bash them too, but i don't know that dude and i don't know if he's joking

[Psykopath]

some people haven't learned not to bash the man with the ban button

some people i let slide, impala, will, etc. but i don't know that dude and i don't know if he's joking

He's my roommate. He's a good guy who just has a differing opinion than you. He didn't mean to insult you, he simply put forth that propaganda can be spread by anyone with any agenda.

I think he's been a member of the boards since back in the RaR days. Cut him some slack, please.

because i bash them too

wait...

your mom spreads her legs, for me

heh

This post has been edited by Psykopath: Aug 20 2007, 10:54 PM

[Seeker]

he dished it out, he got it back, plain and simple

also, posting from other member's accounts isn't allowed

this means you, fedor/testmo, glen/divergent

[Psykopath]

he dished it out, he got it back, plain and simple

also, posting from other member's accounts isn't allowed

this means you, fedor/testmo, glen/divergent

I'm not posting from another account...?


I'm just saying, Lance, that of all that has gone on before on this site, why ban him for a first offense? He didn't know that he'd be banned for expressing his opinion, as well as have his mother randomly insulted...

But that's another matter.

Come on man, let him back on with the new-found knowledge that freedom of speech is not a part of certain areas of Techsans.

[Spectatrix]

Come on man, let him back on with the new-found knowledge that freedom of speech is not a part of certain areas of Techsans.

Speaking of which... Lance, you're an idiot for agreeing with Impala in the credit cards thread.



























j/k

[impala454]

Speaking of which... Lance, you're an idiot for agreeing with Impala in the credit cards thread.


j/k

you friggin non credit card usin bitch



























j/k

[FORSAKENR320]

yea lance, that's more of a dick than you've been in awhile. figured that a guy your age who has a habit of trash talking everyone on these boards would have learned to take it just as much as he dishes it out.

you should watch out how childish you act with that ban button, otherwise people will begin to confuse you with austin....

[Spectatrix]

you friggin non credit card usin bitch
j/k

lol

I do use my credit card, I've just been paying it off every month lately. Maxing it out and then paying it down to zero has made me a bit more cautious about how I use it.

[impala454]

zomg christine maxed a credit card... say it aint so!