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| The Defund Movement |
 Mar 21 2007, 09:00 AM
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 Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35  |
Has anyone heard about this razzle dazzle scheme going on to defund the war?
I am trying to find an article but was reading and listening this morning to a bill that is going through right now that was supposed to be a pork cutting bill but as people are looking at it more it defunds the war. I am still looking for details but it sounds like they are doing some sleight of hand movements to tie the hands of the executive branch. Pretty troubling stuff. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Mar 21 2007, 09:47 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
what's funny is the democrats have been crying about this being "another vietnam" and crap. well if they're really going to do this, it's they who will be turning it into "another vietnam".
it's sad, it's like they're so adamant about bringing the troops home before their job is done, that they're willing to slit their throats to do it. |
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Mar 21 2007, 10:09 AM
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 The Comeback Kid Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 22-March 06 From: Great Falls, MT Member No.: 125 |
If any politician openly stated we should "defund" a war he should be hanged for treason. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
-------------------- I'm sorry. I thought this was America.
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Mar 21 2007, 12:25 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 21 2007, 10:47 AM)  what's funny is the democrats have been crying about this being "another vietnam" and crap. well if they're really going to do this, it's they who will be turning it into "another vietnam". exactly, and when it eventually happens, they'll still be pointing fingers at the republicans. funny, because most americans are going to be too dumb to know the difference. |
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Mar 21 2007, 03:23 PM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 21 2007, 10:47 AM) what's funny is the democrats have been crying about this being "another vietnam" and crap. well if they're really going to do this, it's they who will be turning it into "another vietnam". it's sad, it's like they're so adamant about bringing the troops home before their job is done, that they're willing to slit their throats to do it. Riiiiiiiight. Because what we really want is a repeat of an almost 20 year war with over 58,000 casualties on our side alone. Sorry, but I don't think our continued presence in Iraq is doing anything for the country. If we want to stay until the job's done, we won't be out for another few decades. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Mar 21 2007, 03:26 PM
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monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Mar 21 2007, 04:23 PM) Riiiiiiiight. Because what we really want is a repeat of an almost 20 year war with over 58,000 casualties on our side alone. Sorry, but I don't think our continued presence in Iraq is doing anything for the country. If we want to stay until the job's done, we won't be out for another few decades. ah, i forgot that 58,000 dead over 10 years is the same thing as 3,000 dead over 4 years. because those numbers clearly show that it's the same thing and is equally bad now as it was back then. 
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Mar 21 2007, 03:56 PM
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 N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Mar 21 2007, 03:26 PM) ah, i forgot that 58,000 dead over 10 years is the same thing as 3,000 dead over 4 years. because those numbers clearly show that it's the same thing and is equally bad now as it was back then. I think you responded to what you wanted him to say instead of what he actually said. --------------------  QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 16 2007, 09:22 PM) |
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Mar 21 2007, 03:58 PM
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N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
On another note, I think I am going to vote republican in this next election. The lineup for democrats for this period of time is disheartening.
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Mar 21 2007, 04:25 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Mar 21 2007, 04:58 PM) On another note, I think I am going to vote republican in this next election. The lineup for democrats for this period of time is disheartening. The Republican field isn't looking any brighter. I'm not making any Presidential election decisions until I see definitive platforms for the candidates. -------------------- |
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Mar 21 2007, 05:01 PM
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 Group: Moderators Posts: 1,551 Joined: 19-April 06 From: Lubbock Member No.: 162 |
I will vote for the person who has this platform
-------------------- Je suis toute du merde.
....bitches!!!!! |
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Mar 21 2007, 05:23 PM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
QUOTE (griseyeux @ Mar 21 2007, 05:01 PM) I will vote for the person who has this platform you can see where the circulation is cut off :-P -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Mar 21 2007, 05:41 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 59 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 21 2007, 10:47 AM) what's funny is the democrats have been crying about this being "another vietnam" and crap. well if they're really going to do this, it's they who will be turning it into "another vietnam". it's sad, it's like they're so adamant about bringing the troops home before their job is done, that they're willing to slit their throats to do it. No, that would be why they're cutting funding. The same thing happened in vietnam that is happening now. The first couple years were low key then johnson sent in a surge of troops to win and that didn't work. You can compare quotes between Johnson and Bush and they're almost exactly the same. Cutting the budget is the only thing that congress can do to stop the war because that's the only power they have. They can't pull troops out or anything like that, the only thing congress controls is the budget. |
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Mar 21 2007, 06:12 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (prefix @ Mar 21 2007, 06:41 PM) No, that would be why they're cutting funding. The same thing happened in vietnam that is happening now. The first couple years were low key then johnson sent in a surge of troops to win and that didn't work. You can compare quotes between Johnson and Bush and they're almost exactly the same. Cutting the budget is the only thing that congress can do to stop the war because that's the only power they have. They can't pull troops out or anything like that, the only thing congress controls is the budget. They cut funding when Nixon originally refused to pull the troops out and actually surged them (during the Linebacker II raids). -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Mar 22 2007, 04:05 PM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (prefix @ Mar 21 2007, 06:41 PM) No, that would be why they're cutting funding. The same thing happened in vietnam that is happening now. The first couple years were low key then johnson sent in a surge of troops to win and that didn't work. You can compare quotes between Johnson and Bush and they're almost exactly the same. Cutting the budget is the only thing that congress can do to stop the war because that's the only power they have. They can't pull troops out or anything like that, the only thing congress controls is the budget. They do have the ability to repeal the resolution they passed authorizing Bush to send troops to Iraq. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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