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Aaron
post Feb 17 2007, 07:34 PM
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So, I'm watching this documentary called "Jesus Camp," which is basically about how Evangelical Christians are quite literally brainwashing the youth of the United States... anyways, about twenty-five minutes into the film, the mom of one of the Jesus Camp participants makes her kids say the Pledge of Allegiance before lunch.

At first I was like, "Hm, that's weird... but her husband is serving in Iraq so they're probably all gung-ho for America."

Imagine my absolute surprise when the kids picked up two little mini-flags (the Christian flag and the flag of Israel) and a bible. They then recited this garbage.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Seriously, though my thoughts and feelings about organized religion are well-documented, you could literally replace the film's references to Christianity with Islam and you'd have yourself a documentary about radical Islamic fundamentalists.

If you're even the slightest bit moderate, and want to get the shit scared out of you, go watch this movie.
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post Feb 17 2007, 08:31 PM
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that's nothing stupider than having to say a pledge to texas every day, which they're making public school kids do now


i've wanted to see this because i did hear that this film shows absolutely ridiculous stuff. did you rent it at blockbuster or netflix, or did you get it some other way?
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post Feb 17 2007, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Feb 17 2007, 08:31 PM) *
that's nothing stupider than having to say a pledge to texas every day, which they're making public school kids do now
i've wanted to see this because i did hear that this film shows absolutely ridiculous stuff. did you rent it at blockbuster or netflix, or did you get it some other way?


Netflix. I stopped about half an hour into it to watch the hoops game, but already there's a ton of stuff that has made me go WTF.
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post Feb 17 2007, 09:36 PM
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Yeah, I thought about going to see this when it was in theatres. I've heard the Christian flag & bible pledges before... was at a Baptist service. They did the US pledge, then the other two. Freaked the ever living hell out of me.

Oh wait, maybe that was the point... lol

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post Feb 17 2007, 10:50 PM
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I went to Protestant Christian-centered private schools until I was in the seventh grade, and I was *never* exposed to anything like this.

I mean, one of these fanatical mothers home-schools her kids and says stuff like, "Creationism is the only possible answer because it explains everything," with a straight face.

And then they have these six and seven year-olds "speaking in tongues," and their youth pastor bragging on camera that he could walk up to any group of kids on any playground across America and have them speaking in tongues within five minutes.

Seriously, this shit makes me want to buy a gun to protect myself when the inevitable happens and these nut-jobs think that a comet in the sky or something is a sign of the impending rapture.
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post Feb 17 2007, 10:57 PM
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Okay, this is getting so retarded that I'm going to do a running commentary.

Right now, the head youth pastor is praying over every seat in the auditorium, the electrical system, the powerpoint presentations(!!) and the microphones... oh, wait, now she's speaking in tongues. This is fantastic.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:00 PM
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Can't say that I'm shocked that one of the main subjects of this Jesus Camp documentary is sporting a foot-long rat tail.

Awesome, Christian rap... "You take JC wherever you go, yo!" The word "homey" was also used quite liberally.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:03 PM
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Yep, just started attacking Harry Potter. "Warlocks are enemies of God!" I wonder what she thinks of Quidditch?

Haha, "Had it been in the Old Testament, Harry Potter would have been put to death!" The emphasis was hers, not mine.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:06 PM
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And now all the kids are crying...
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:13 PM
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Yep, first abortion reference... surprised it took this long (43:05).
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:14 PM
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Little Girl #1 is telling the camera about which kinds of churches God likes to go to... good to know.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:17 PM
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Rat Tail kid is preaching, "Don't let Satan get you off!" Haha.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:18 PM
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must see this.


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post Feb 17 2007, 11:18 PM
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"How many of you would like to be those that give up their lives for Jesus?"

...and all the kids raise their hand.

Seriously, this could be straight out of Palestine.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:22 PM
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Now they're breaking cups... WTF... something about corrupt government or something.

"God touched you tonight," said Australian Guy #1. "I want to hear about it, come tell me what happened."

Seriously, this is freaky. They've got kids in camoflauge pants, brown shirts and camo face paint dancing in formation with sticks, while the youth pastor lady screams, "This means War!"

Naturally, the next scene is a bunch of kids swinging on a swing set.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:25 PM
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I want to kick Rat Tail Kid in the teeth: "America is supposed to be God's Nation."

Yep, now the whole bunch is talking to, praying over and speaking in tongues to a cardboard mock-up of President Bush. This is like a bad science fiction film.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:29 PM
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Yep, full on lecture from Youth Pastor #2 on abortion.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:37 PM
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This is unbelievable, this cat has a box the size of a checkbook that has four or five little replicas of a fetus in different stages of development. Where the hell do you buy those?
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:39 PM
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Now everybody is chanting "Righteous judges" in unison.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:43 PM
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I'm going to feel gypped if they don't talk about gay marriage and the War in Iraq.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:48 PM
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Oh, this is awesome, they're filming Rat Tail Kid at one of those McMegaChurches in Colorado... Ted Haggard, the pastor that resigned after a gay sex scandal, is preaching on... wait for it... wait for it... homos.

Perfect.
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post Feb 17 2007, 11:58 PM
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Now Rat Tail Kid, Little Girl #1, Youth Pastor #2 and some other brainwashed kids are silently protesting abortion outside of the Supreme Court building.
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post Feb 18 2007, 12:02 AM
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hey thanks for ruining the movie for everyone
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post Feb 18 2007, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Feb 18 2007, 12:02 AM) *
hey thanks for ruining the movie for everyone


Nah, half the stuff you have to see for yourself.. I'm just giving you highlights.
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post Feb 18 2007, 03:13 AM
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my gf tried telling me mormons werent christians earlier.....because what they belive in isnt christian

i laughed at her because she is religious and everything she says about religion is right

anyways she left because i told her she was wrong

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post Feb 18 2007, 12:35 PM
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Mormonism is the Scientology of Christianity.
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post Feb 18 2007, 01:28 PM
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dumb-dumb-dumbdumb-dumb

btw, every summer bible school I went to growing up we had to say that prayer to the christian flag as a group. One of the kids was actually giving the bird below the pew while saying it once.


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post Feb 18 2007, 04:13 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality?


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I really want to see this

Fundamentalists are awesome


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Edit: I grew up in the church of Christ and I also attended a baptist church for awhile, so I know how crazy those guys can get

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post Feb 18 2007, 05:28 PM
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Towards the end, the Youth Pastor Lady admits that she's indoctrinating these kids and uses the fact that Muslims do it as justification.

Good news is that the "Jesus Camp" in question has been shut down because they were worried about vandalism.
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post Feb 19 2007, 06:44 PM
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another friend recommended this movie. I'm about 30 minutes in right now.

We should start a christian band, this way we can totally suck balls, yet make a bunch of money.


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