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Mar 5 2006, 03:16 PM
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Mar 5 2006, 06:56 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
I still just laugh every time I hear the term "free energy".
That's basically like saying "free cocaine". It just doesn't exist -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Mar 5 2006, 06:57 PM
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i laugh everytime i hear someone make a statement like that, since we know so little about physics
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Mar 5 2006, 06:58 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Lancifer @ Mar 5 2006, 07:57 PM) i laugh everytime i hear someone make a statement like that, since we know so little about physics Who is "we"? -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Mar 5 2006, 07:20 PM
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![]() Eric The Sexy Group: Moderators Posts: 831 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 30 |
QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 5 2006, 06:58 PM) Who is "we"? the human race |
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Mar 5 2006, 09:04 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
There is no such thing as free energy. You don't just abruptly create matter or energy from nothing, unless you're god.
-------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Mar 5 2006, 10:15 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Dogmeat, "laws" and "theorems" in physics are only such because there aren't examples that contradict them. Newtonian physics was only valid until people started looking at the quantum level (though it remains a good approximation for macro-scale physics). Something similar may be the case for quantum physics one day...
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Mar 5 2006, 10:16 PM
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![]() <3 stars Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 22-February 06 From: in emo land Member No.: 24 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Mar 5 2006, 10:15 PM) Dogmeat, "laws" and "theorems" in physics are only such because there aren't examples that contradict them. Newtonian physics was only valid until people started looking at the quantum level (though it remains a good approximation for macro-scale physics). Something similar may be the case for quantum physics one day... yay thank you for explain basic science, you can never really PROVE anything. I get annoyed to fuck when people say that. -------------------- *the* aggie bitch
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Mar 5 2006, 10:29 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Mar 5 2006, 11:15 PM) Dogmeat, "laws" and "theorems" in physics are only such because there aren't examples that contradict them. Newtonian physics was only valid until people started looking at the quantum level (though it remains a good approximation for macro-scale physics). Something similar may be the case for quantum physics one day... There is no 'free energy' on the quantum level as well if I'm not mistaken.... -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Mar 5 2006, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 5 2006, 10:29 PM) There is no 'free energy' on the quantum level as well if I'm not mistaken.... i can cite several experiments by renowned physicists where unexplained energy is produced, i'll post them when i have time to go through my bookmarks |
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Mar 5 2006, 10:58 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Lancifer @ Mar 5 2006, 11:56 PM) i can cite several experiments by renowned physicists where unexplained energy is produced, i'll post them when i have time to go through my bookmarks Just because it's unexplained doesn't mean it's "free energy" ... -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Mar 5 2006, 11:36 PM
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Generally things in physics are unexplained until like 20 years later when people figure it out. For example they wondered why only 1/3 of the nutrinos(spelling?) were showing up in an experiment to determine if the number of nutrinos predicted to come out of the sun was correct. It took from from 1965 until 1999 to figure that out. Same thing with the orbit of mars back in the days of Galileo. There's always something that contradicts physics laws but then ends up being explained later.
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Mar 6 2006, 12:50 AM
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![]() Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 5 2006, 06:56 PM) That's basically like saying "free cocaine". It just doesn't exist I once helped a guy who sold coke move out of his apartment. He offered to give me some free coke. I said no. (never touched the shit never will.) -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Mar 6 2006, 12:52 AM
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![]() Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (prefix @ Mar 5 2006, 11:36 PM) Generally things in physics are unexplained until like 20 years later when people figure it out. For example they wondered why only 1/3 of the nutrinos(spelling?) were showing up in an experiment to determine if the number of nutrinos predicted to come out of the sun was correct. It took from from 1965 until 1999 to figure that out. Same thing with the orbit of mars back in the days of Galileo. There's always something that contradicts physics laws but then ends up being explained later. neutrinos*, the only particle that spins "left handed". /the things you learn from star trek //actually star trek got it wrong, but the book "The science of star trek" got it right ///what the FUCK john what the FUCK -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Mar 6 2006, 01:27 AM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
There is no such thing as a free lunch
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Mar 6 2006, 02:10 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 5 2006, 09:29 PM) There is no 'free energy' on the quantum level as well if I'm not mistaken.... Dude, I wasn't saying that there was free energy at the quantum level. Yes, our understanding of "conservation of mass" and "conservation of energy" may be appropriate NOW, but who's to say that those concepts won't be replaced in the future, just as quantum physics showed that Newtonian physics didn't apply in every situation? -------------------- |
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Mar 6 2006, 03:51 PM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
there hasn't been anything on it in a couple of years. I am a skeptic of it, but if i saw it work that would sell me. In my understanding I cannot see how you can create flux from a vaccum, it cannot be done through maxwell's equations.
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Mar 6 2006, 03:59 PM
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Some of Maxwell's equations/quaternions were thrown away from Electromagnetism by Josiah Willard Gibbs at Yale and Oliver Heaviside in England. The ones we have today are only a small subset. Supposedly those equations would let us understand free energy.
Just like Quantum physics replaced Newtonian physics, something else may be the status quo in the future. Maybe ether really exists and we can pull free energy out of a higher dimension, the conservation is done in the higher dimension, which makes it look like free energy to us. |
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Mar 6 2006, 06:31 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
But then we're stealing our energy from Dimension X and they're gonna straight FUCK US UP for that shit. They got neutrino cannons and shit ... No, we have enough energy in our own universe, the last thing we need to do is steal it from other dimensions....
-------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Mar 6 2006, 09:04 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 28-February 06 Member No.: 97 |
QUOTE (chook @ Mar 6 2006, 03:51 PM) create flux from a vaccum Just to clerify, you can create flux IN a vaccum, but not FROM a vaccum/nothing ... just making sure that is what you are meaning. QUOTE (Lancifer @ Mar 6 2006, 03:59 PM) pull free energy out of a higher dimension That would be highly unethical. We would be potentially causing an effect on other life.I dont like how there is no equation in the whole article, to replace what we already know. I also dont like how Fig. 7 compares Voltage in and power out ... why not compare power in to power out? |
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