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 Dec 3 2006, 11:21 AM
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i caught the tail end of a local news spot talking about leach possibly taking the head coach job at miami... any of you insider people have more info?
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Dec 3 2006, 11:57 AM
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Dec 3 2006, 01:00 PM
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I hope he takes it. Leach is a shitty coach. I might actually start cheering for Tech if he leaves
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Dec 3 2006, 01:32 PM
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damn, Leach is awesome, guess thats why he wouldn't stay in lubbock... Hell if i were him i'd take my kick ass system to a grade A school.
Sucks, hopefully Tech would pick up a coach that would keep us competitive. (If it happens of course) |
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Dec 3 2006, 01:53 PM
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 ROCKPACALYPSE NOW Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 13 |
Losing Leach would be horrible. His offense and his style is what attracts the recruits he gets, and if he leaves everything drops. They wouldn't be the same team, who is going to come play for some rebuilding team ? Especially with UT and OU always dominating that aspect, and A&M taking the rest.
I like Leach and his style, so IF he did go to UM, then I'd be interested in becoming a Miami fan. Call it what you will, but its that style and approach that I like, I'd prefer he stay and do his thing at TTU though. -------------------- QUOTE (Lance) now we have some dude from argentina wondering how to fuck dogmeat |
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Dec 3 2006, 02:02 PM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
I agree Rocky, we do well with what we get. There is a reason why we got interest in our O but not in our D.
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Dec 3 2006, 02:05 PM
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I just wish leach would look into getting a new DC
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Dec 3 2006, 02:22 PM
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miami is a stepping stone job
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Dec 3 2006, 09:47 PM
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it would be good for Miami, terrible for us
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Dec 3 2006, 11:53 PM
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i really like Leach I hope he stays, but like others have said it'd turn my opinion around of miami, i'd root for em
 if he did leave it'd totally break down tech and we'd be lucky to go .500 the next couple years. |
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Dec 4 2006, 12:15 AM
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I am having a hard time forming an opinion on this one. If Mike Leach is offered the job, he'd be dumb not to take it.
I can't decide whether I want him to get offered or not. On one hand, it's hard to argue with what he's done in his seven seasons at Texas Tech. Then again, the Red Raiders' win-loss record during his tenure is not much better than it was in the five years prior to his hiring. He hasn't really come close to winning a division title and it's hard to argue with the mediocre results over the past season and a half. I guess the biggest question is whether or not Tech can do better. If Mack Brown -- and, now, Mike Gundy -- has tought us anything is that talent will eventually generate wins almost by default. There is no doubt in my mind that Leach is miles ahead of both of those guys when it comes to X's and O's but that's only part of being a head coach. I think Leach's oblivious -- this word is no exaggeration -- attitude towards the defensive side of the ball has hurt Tech quite a bit and cost the team a few wins. He isn't a great recruiter and this weakness will be magnified even more now that co-offensive coordinator Sonny Dykes is apparently going to become the next offensive coordinator at Arizona. Dykes is the best recruiter on the staff and one of the best in the Big 12. I enjoy watching his offense, I think he's a very interesting guy and I liked the hell out of covering him but I'm not sure I would be completely heartbroken to see him go. My two dream candidates would be Art Briles and Rick Neuheisel. |
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Dec 4 2006, 04:38 PM
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Yea, if leach leaves our team's going to shit. Our defense did a lot better this year than it did last year. I dunno what happened to this season, we should have won a lot more games than we did; that loss to CU, OU, and UT sucked ass.
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Dec 4 2006, 05:46 PM
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If Leach leaves, give Tech one or two seasons and then they will start making it happen. I say they will be better off without him. They need a coach that will bring in some new strategy and will try to run the ball a bit more.
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Dec 4 2006, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 4 2006, 05:46 PM)  If Leach leaves, give Tech one or two seasons and then they will start making it happen. I say they will be better off without him. They need a coach that will bring in some new strategy and will try to run the ball a bit more. You base this on what, exactly? Because the uniforms look better in a run-oriented offense? |
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Dec 4 2006, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron @ Dec 4 2006, 05:47 PM) You base this on what, exactly? Because the uniforms look better in a run-oriented offense? no. their asses look better either that or you cant throw the whole team on the QB's back because what if he gets injured? You think the backup QB will be able to waltz right in and pickup where the other one left off? Not likely.... Case and point McCoy and Sneed. |
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Dec 4 2006, 05:55 PM
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didn't our shitbag backup step up and make like a 70 yard drive in that game where harrell got booed?
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Dec 4 2006, 06:05 PM
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ROCKPACALYPSE NOW Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 13 |
You have to gamble on the QB situation to an extent.
Did anybody watch that bumbling fuck last year backup Vince Young ? The Tech running game is already making some movement. They are lining up in different formations, and they are in fact running at times that people don't expect it. Keep in mind how many yards / carry Shannon Woods has. Hint, its over 6 It just needs a little more evolving, but that is already happening. Niggas need to step back and let next year unfold - we all knew that this year would be flakey from the get go with Harrell being new to starting, but then we got cocky, and now we are realizing what we knew at the beginning of the year. Next year is when we can honestly hope/expect an 8+ win season in the regular season then maybe a bowl win, and then Harrell's senior year, a 10 win season etc. Progression of the QB is going to be huge in a system like this, plus the new receivers next year will still take a bit of adjusting. Woods will be a monster, fear not. Lets just hope that Tech will eventually be putting up Hawai'i offense numbers, but against the better teams that they play. -------------------- QUOTE (Lance) now we have some dude from argentina wondering how to fuck dogmeat |
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Dec 4 2006, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 4 2006, 05:52 PM) either that or you cant throw the whole team on the QB's back because what if he gets injured? You think the backup QB will be able to waltz right in and pickup where the other one left off? Not likely.... Case and point McCoy and Sneed. Your example is flawed as Jevan Snead lead Texas on five scoring drives against Kansas State. It was the Longhorn defense that cost them the victory, not the play of their back-up quarterback. Secondly, if you're going to scheme offensively around the possibility that one of your players is going to get injured then you have no reason being a coach. |
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Dec 4 2006, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron @ Dec 4 2006, 06:21 PM) Your example is flawed as Jevan Snead lead Texas on five scoring drives against Kansas State. It was the Longhorn defense that cost them the victory, not the play of their back-up quarterback. Secondly, if you're going to scheme offensively around the possibility that one of your players is going to get injured then you have no reason being a coach. oh darn, there goes my lifelong dream of being a coach... guess ill have to sit at home and watch the games like I already do I wouldnt call it scheming offensively around the possibility of an injury, but rather having a backup plan just in case as for sneed, its obvious he has arm strength, but his accuracy blows balls. did you even watch the K state game? This post has been edited by Jessica: Dec 4 2006, 07:05 PM |
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Dec 4 2006, 10:19 PM
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ROCKPACALYPSE NOW Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 13 |
Texas scored 2 points above their year long average of Offensive output in Manhattan
I'm gonna go with, their Offense was just fine (even with the INT and fumbles) Letting Freeman run over them, that's the obvious failure. -------------------- QUOTE (Lance) now we have some dude from argentina wondering how to fuck dogmeat |
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Dec 4 2006, 11:26 PM
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just got an e-mail from the daily toreador "BREAKING NEWS: LEACH LEAVING LUBBOCK?"
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Dec 5 2006, 12:22 AM
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RUMORS OF A DEAL BEING ANNOUNCED IN THE MORNING !?
suspense -------------------- QUOTE (Lance) now we have some dude from argentina wondering how to fuck dogmeat |
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Dec 5 2006, 12:40 AM
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He's donecakes, he's gone. Looks like he'll be head coach and offensive coordinator -- shocker, I know -- and Randy Shannon will stay on as defensive coordinator.
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Dec 5 2006, 12:43 AM
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ROCKPACALYPSE NOW Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 13 |
Thats what I've been internetting, I just didn't know if there are any truly reliable sources behind that.
Granted we'll all find out tomorrow - but I WANNA KNOW NOWWWW. -------------------- QUOTE (Lance) now we have some dude from argentina wondering how to fuck dogmeat |
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Dec 5 2006, 01:18 AM
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Basically, Mike Leach has been in New York to attend a College Hall of Fame ceremony. He goes every year at this time, so this doesn't come as a surprise.
As Greg Schiano told Miami to go fuck themselves, the 'Cane President and Athletic Director reportedly met "informally" with Leach today at some point. It has also been reported that Randy Shannon, the current defensive coordinator at The U, was in attendance as well. According to several people who would know, it sounds as if Miami is basically pitching that the two of them team up. Leach would be head coach and fully control the offense while Shannon would have complete control over the defense. This shouldn't be an issue for Leach because he has always been oblivious to what happens on defense anyways. Leach's agent has been summoned to New York from his Minnesota home. I doubt that he was done so to have tea and cupcakes. Donecakes. |
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Dec 5 2006, 01:25 AM
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hope we beat baylor next year /cry
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Dec 5 2006, 01:33 AM
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haha im a reliable resource and Leach will not leave
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Dec 5 2006, 10:52 AM
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it's sounding more and more like he's pretty much gone. honestly he's a dumbass if he doesn't take it.
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Dec 5 2006, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jwilly @ Dec 5 2006, 01:33 AM) haha im a reliable resource and Leach will not leave how are you a reliable resource? not disagreeing with you, just curious. |
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Dec 5 2006, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Dec 5 2006, 01:03 PM) how are you a reliable resource? not disagreeing with you, just curious. well i like how everyone says "i heard from a reliable source" or some crap. i dont believe it until i see it Leach leaves, then he leaves. if he stays, i will laugh because showing interest in something doesnt mean its gonna happen -------------------- |
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Dec 5 2006, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (Jwilly @ Dec 5 2006, 01:28 PM) Leach leaves, then he leaves. if he stays, i will laugh because showing interest in something doesnt mean its gonna happen how about, showing interest, meeting with the miami athletic director & def coordinator, then flying his agent out from minnesota to join the meeting? |
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Dec 5 2006, 04:05 PM
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level apparently thinks the deal may not go down... interesting...
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Dec 5 2006, 05:25 PM
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well if this was such a real possibility, somehow I think there would have been something on ESPN about it by this point in time. so far everything I have read about it, is from news sources that I havent heard of before or the DT
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Dec 5 2006, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE (Grif @ Dec 5 2006, 05:25 PM) well if this was such a real possibility, somehow I think there would have been something on ESPN about it by this point in time. so far everything I have read about it, is from news sources that I havent heard of before or the DT It's being reported by the Lubbock AJ, the Miami Herald, Fort Worth Star Telegram, Red Raider Sports, CaneSports, etc. |
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Dec 5 2006, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron @ Dec 5 2006, 05:43 PM) It's being reported by the Lubbock AJ, the Miami Herald, Fort Worth Star Telegram, Red Raider Sports, CaneSports, etc. and espn just said leach denied being offered or turned it down or something... half-heard it |
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Dec 5 2006, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (Trespass @ Dec 5 2006, 06:19 PM) and espn just said leach denied being offered or turned it down or something... half-heard it Leach has said that he has not been offered by Miami but, when asked if he was a candidate, he responded, "It's hard to say." |
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Dec 5 2006, 09:24 PM
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why would espn report it? nothing is for sure and an "interest" doesnt mean shit to them
this is like the 2000 election. lets not get ahead of ourselves once Leach is offered something and he takes it or denies it, then we can celebrate or boo. i know this thread exists to inform us that something might go down in the future. but i dont think have anything but speculation and preditions Plus, it might be bad for Leach to do anything until after the bowl season. who knows -------------------- |
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Dec 6 2006, 01:44 AM
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i dont know if they'd offer it to him. i mean most of the country thinks his offense is "gimmicky" (even though most people around tech think he's a genius).
he'd be dumb NOT to take it, but maybe he likes it here and it's a better place for his family...rather than Miami where half the team is in a gang and 2 players were shot and killed this season (2, right?) --------------------  |
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Dec 6 2006, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Dec 6 2006, 01:44 AM) i dont know if they'd offer it to him. i mean most of the country thinks his offense is "gimmicky" (even though most people around tech think he's a genius). there's lots of people in football all over the country that are intrigued by leach's offense. even some NFL coaches have taken interest. but what's appealing about leach is the kind of record he's put together at tech with absolute crap recruits. he takes low rated players and squeezes every TD he can out of em, and that's why he'll be a sought after coach. |
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Dec 6 2006, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 6 2006, 01:52 AM) but what's appealing about leach is the kind of record he's put together at tech with absolute crap recruits. totally agree here. -------------------- |
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Dec 6 2006, 02:11 PM
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he's be stupid to take it.
his 7-5 seasons aren't going to fly at miami. too much pressure plus miami is a stepping stone job. larry coker was there 6 years and that's the longest a coach has been there in a while. besides, leach has a hard time controlling the discipline here, i can only imagine what would happen at miami. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Dec 6 2006, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Dec 6 2006, 02:11 PM) he's be stupid to take it. he'd get a 500k buyout plus no doubt some increase over what he currently makes. he'd live in florida instead of lubbock. he'd be in a much higher profile job, with light-years better recruits. dunno how he'd be "stupid" to take the job. |
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Dec 6 2006, 02:54 PM
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I could see him loosing control of the Miami players.
I could see him loosing control of the Miami players. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Dec 6 2006, 04:04 PM
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he wouldn't last 3 years. and then what?
he has a good thing at tech. he makes $2 mil. he should stick it out -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Dec 6 2006, 05:51 PM
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"he would be stupid to not go"
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Dec 7 2006, 09:22 PM
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Miami hired their D-Coordinator as the new head coach, so Leach will be staying.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2690489 |
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Dec 8 2006, 08:29 AM
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yeah, there's other schools eyeing leach as far as i know... but i think the next best one is like stanford or something
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Dec 19 2006, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 4 2006, 05:46 PM) If Leach leaves, give Tech one or two seasons and then they will start making it happen. I say they will be better off without him. They need a coach that will bring in some new strategy and will try to run the ball a bit more. do you know anything about football or do you just type on your keyboard because it makes your nails feel silly? seriously... --------------------  A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. |
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Dec 19 2006, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (nickluto @ Dec 19 2006, 07:30 PM) do you know anything about football or do you just type on your keyboard because it makes your nails feel silly? seriously... wow... more than 2 weeks later I know about football. Excuse me that I have a different opinion than others and think that Leach is overrated |
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Dec 19 2006, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 19 2006, 07:58 PM) wow... more than 2 weeks later I know about football. Excuse me that I have a different opinion than others and think that Leach is overrated So, for the sake of argument...let's say Leach IS overrated. You think that if he leaves, regardless of who the new coach is, somehow they will "make it happen" (which I assume is subjective term) with his magical "new strategy" that incorporates running the ball? How do you figure that, Lee Corso? -------------------- A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. |
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Dec 20 2006, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (nickluto @ Dec 19 2006, 08:19 PM) So, for the sake of argument...let's say Leach IS overrated. You think that if he leaves, regardless of who the new coach is, somehow they will "make it happen" (which I assume is subjective term) with his magical "new strategy" that incorporates running the ball? How do you figure that, Lee Corso? I missed this dude... |
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Dec 20 2006, 11:28 AM
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay, it's time for jessica's no knowledge jibberish to start another why does leach suck series of arguments. yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
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Dec 20 2006, 12:50 PM
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leach sucks cause when he breathes he inhales. inhaling is an act of sucking. therefore, leach sucks
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Dec 20 2006, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (woody @ Dec 20 2006, 12:50 PM) leach sucks cause when he breathes he inhales. inhaling is an act of sucking. therefore, leach sucks then you suck too |
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Dec 20 2006, 01:55 PM
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yup
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Dec 22 2006, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (nickluto @ Dec 19 2006, 08:19 PM) So, for the sake of argument...let's say Leach IS overrated. You think that if he leaves, regardless of who the new coach is, somehow they will "make it happen" (which I assume is subjective term) with his magical "new strategy" that incorporates running the ball? How do you figure that, Lee Corso? My point is that Tech is capable of recruiting a good coach. I dont know who Lee Corso is so that went over my head. QUOTE (prefix @ Dec 20 2006, 11:28 AM) Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay, it's time for jessica's no knowledge jibberish to start another why does leach suck series of arguments. yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. who are you again? exactly. This post has been edited by Jessica: Dec 22 2006, 04:13 PM |
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Jan 6 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE I know about football. QUOTE I dont know who Lee Corso is so that went over my head. Wow, sounds like you do know a lot about football. |
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Jan 7 2007, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (prefix @ Jan 6 2007, 06:34 PM) Wow, sounds like you do know a lot about football. ooh, burn. -------------------- A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. |
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Jan 8 2007, 12:27 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (nickluto @ Jan 7 2007, 11:03 PM) ooh, burn. ooh, burn. why are we randomly posting in a thread that has been dead for a while? |
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Jan 8 2007, 01:39 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 16 |
I love lamp.
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