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post Feb 28 2006, 07:47 AM
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I didn't read the article carefully enough, but does anyone know if that applies to graduate students? While I'm done with math grad, I still have to take courses for certification if I decide to teach.

What was the flat rate for the summer? I might want to take 8 hours of physics, but not sure on that just yet.


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post Feb 28 2006, 10:48 AM
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im somewhat opposed to it, if it was that case when i first came to tech, i would have no problem, but I will only be taking 12 rhs from now on, and i am going to get fucked over.

if it goes through, they should give the option of if you have been here if you want to continue what you are doing, or go to the flat rate plan. the people that are just coming now then would have no choice


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post Feb 28 2006, 11:45 AM
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They should have set the flat rate at 12 or 13hours, not 15. Many other universities have it at 12-13 hours with no problems...Tech is just greedy.


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post Feb 28 2006, 02:06 PM
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Very bad Idea
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post Feb 28 2006, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (John6.7 @ Feb 28 2006, 02:06 PM)
Very bad Idea

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post Feb 28 2006, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 28 2006, 11:45 AM)
They should have set the flat rate at 12 or 13hours, not 15. Many other universities have it at 12-13 hours with no problems...Tech is just greedy.

Do you not see how the university of tech's size would quickly run out of money if they set it at 12?

With the number of college students interested and qualified of attending institutions of higher learning growing as it is, in 2010 there would need to be at least 10 "flagship sized" (45-50k+ undergrads) universities in Texas alone to meet the demand.

To help try to minimize the stress, universities are starting to adopt the flat-rate tuition plan not only as a way to make more money to expand the universities facilities (a lot more people are taking less than 15 hours/semester these days as opposed to 10/20/30 years ago), but also try and give students incentive to take more hours and thus graduate a little bit earlier.


As a jr. EE student, 18 hour/semesters arent very practical, but i still understand why flat-rate tuition is being adopted across the state.


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post Feb 28 2006, 07:00 PM
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The University of New Mexico has 26,399 people and they aren't going belly up with a flat tuition rate for 12-18 hours. How many people does Tech have?


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post Feb 28 2006, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (nickluto @ Feb 28 2006, 06:47 PM)
As a jr. EE student, 18 hour/semesters arent very practical, but i still understand why flat-rate tuition is being adopted across the state.

yeah, the only advantage to incoming students in engineering is that they can sign up for 18 hrs and then drop their least favorite class and it wont hurt them

but that is the only advantage i can see


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post Feb 28 2006, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (Jim @ Feb 28 2006, 07:00 PM)
The University of New Mexico has 26,399 people and they aren't going belly up with a flat tuition rate for 12-18 hours. How many people does Tech have?

I doubt tech is going "belly up", they simply need more money to accomodate (expand facilities, buy a bunch of new high tech shit, higher more profs/TA's) the projected undergraduate growth rate.

New Mexico simply isn't in the same position as Texas universities.


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post Feb 28 2006, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE (nickluto @ Feb 28 2006, 07:17 PM)
I doubt tech is going "belly up", they simply need more money to accomodate (expand facilities, buy a bunch of new high tech shit, higher more profs/TA's) the projected undergraduate growth rate.

New Mexico simply isn't in the same position as Texas universities.

if they actually hire more professors, instead of giving the same workload w/ less pay to grad students or adjunct professorships, then awesome. Just sucks that this has to happen during my last semester at Tech.

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post Feb 28 2006, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Feb 28 2006, 08:07 PM)
if they actually hire more professors, instead of giving the same workload w/ less pay to grad students or adjunct professorships, then awesome. Just sucks that this has to happen during my last semester at Tech.

aye, it kinda sounds like a charity case at that point...paying for resources you probably wont use, but welcome to collective action.

i liked schwabs idea where they just amend the book 1 year and all incoming students have to adhere to it and as a current student you can choose which book you follow.

unfortunately, no one had the foresight to do that earlier.


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post Feb 28 2006, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (John6.7 @ Feb 28 2006, 02:06 PM)
Very bad Idea

totally agree
what a load a shit - it will totally discourage people who cant' afford that much money, who only take a couple hours a semester because they have jobs or kids or whatever. It's stupid stupid stupid. Plus, if it applies to grad students, we are already getting fucked already - we don't need to get over more.


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post Feb 28 2006, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (basschick @ Feb 28 2006, 07:18 PM)
totally agree
what a load a shit - it will totally discourage people who cant' afford that much money, who only take a couple hours a semester because they have jobs or kids or whatever. It's stupid stupid stupid. Plus, if it applies to grad students, we are already getting fucked already - we don't need to get over more.

I don't think it affects part-time students -- only full-timers. Per-hour rate up to 11, then 15-hr rate for 12-18.


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post Feb 28 2006, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (basschick @ Feb 28 2006, 08:18 PM)
totally agree
what a load a shit - it will totally discourage people who cant' afford that much money, who only take a couple hours a semester because they have jobs or kids or whatever. It's stupid stupid stupid. Plus, if it applies to grad students, we are already getting fucked already - we don't need to get over more.

yeah no shit, i only am taking 12 hrs next semester and then only 9 the semester after, i dont have a choice about this as those are the only classes i need to get my masters


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post Feb 28 2006, 10:11 PM
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Well I read the Toreador article about the flat-rate tuition plan and concluded that it was an atrocious article, to say the least. From what I know about flat-rate tuition plans, though, it should 1) only apply to full-time students (12+ hours) and 2) only apply to undergraduate students. But this is Tech -- who fucking knows what they'll do.

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post Mar 1 2006, 12:33 AM
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it'd suck if you're degree plan has you with like 12 hours left your last semester

if your incoming it'd be good

people already in the system get fucked


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post Mar 1 2006, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (woody @ Mar 1 2006, 12:33 AM)
it'd suck if you're degree plan has you with like 12 hours left your last semester

if your incoming it'd be good

people already in the system get fucked

yep, that's how I am...13 hours left next semester. :'(


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post Mar 1 2006, 08:16 AM
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at least it isnt for grad students smile.gif


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post Mar 2 2006, 10:49 AM
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Try researching and looking for information ourself instead of relying on an article in the already-known-to-be-craptacular UD/DT

there is something different for 1-11 hours , 12-15 hours pay as 15 hours, and I think 18 hours pays something else too. I cannot remember fully, the pay per hour might have changed too, its not COMPLETELY screwing the part-time student like the article is implying.

http://www.texastech.edu/stories/new-tuition-plan.php

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post Mar 2 2006, 10:52 AM
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next semester, I am taking 21 hours hahaha tongue.gif


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QUOTE (koreanp1e @ Mar 2 2006, 10:52 AM)
next semester, I am taking 21 hours hahaha tongue.gif

bah. acursed overachieving asians. making me look like a lazy american.


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post Mar 12 2006, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Mar 2 2006, 10:52 AM)
bah. acursed overachieving asians. making me look like a lazy american.

just a little. but this overachieving asian likes you anyway.


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post Mar 13 2006, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Tygriss @ Mar 12 2006, 08:30 PM)
just a little. but this overachieving asian likes you anyway.

I think that deserves an awww.


Here it comes. Wait for it.


Awwwwwww.


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QUOTE (nickluto @ Feb 28 2006, 07:17 PM)
I doubt tech is going "belly up", they simply need more money to accomodate (expand facilities, buy a bunch of new high tech shit, higher more profs/TA's) the projected undergraduate growth rate.

New Mexico simply isn't in the same position as Texas universities.

Don't forget covering any debts leftover from the athletic program!
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post Mar 13 2006, 11:26 AM
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what's the going tuition & fees for 15 hrs nowadays?
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 13 2006, 11:26 AM)
what's the going tuition & fees for 15 hrs nowadays?

more than it's worth
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 13 2006, 10:26 AM)
what's the going tuition & fees for 15 hrs nowadays?

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post Mar 27 2006, 04:36 PM
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Dear Student:

The Board of Regents approved tuition costs for 2006-2007. The resident graduate tuition is $185 per credit hour. Because all graduate students are charged the same per credit hour regardless of the number of hours taken, graduate students will not be impacted by the new modified tuition or tuition credit program for undergraduates.


That's nice. $185/hr is not though.


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post Mar 27 2006, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (James @ Mar 27 2006, 04:36 PM)
Dear Student:

The Board of Regents approved tuition costs for 2006-2007. The resident graduate tuition is $185 per credit hour. Because all graduate students are charged the same per credit hour regardless of the number of hours taken, graduate students will not be impacted by the new modified tuition or tuition credit program for undergraduates.


That's nice. $185/hr is not though.

what was graduate tuition previously?
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post Mar 27 2006, 05:04 PM
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$179/hr


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post Mar 27 2006, 05:09 PM
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eh so about 60ish more bucks for me mad.gif


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post Mar 27 2006, 05:14 PM
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That's only tuition. Says nothing about fees. I'm sure those went up, too.


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post Mar 28 2006, 10:15 AM
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ok you all suck. i called student business and got the real answer. you will only be charged for how many hours you take. people who take 12 hours will NOT be charged for 15 hours of courses. what happens is, people who are taking 15 hours or more, if divided out, will wind up paying less per credit hour than those taking twelve hours. so the rate is the same as its been for those taking less than 15, and then those with 15 or more are getting a break/reward. so dont run around trying to find 15 hours just to not waste money.

what sucks is that she said its a reward to those with heavy course loads instead of a punishment for less than 15ers but in the end, its still unfair because someone sitting next to you in class may have paid less than you to be in the same class with the same material, requirements etc


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post Mar 28 2006, 11:11 AM
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She said that it sucks or that what you thought about it?


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I wouldnt believe someone from Student Business Services if they had thier lips notarized. None of them know whats going on and they all give different answers to the same question.
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I wouldnt believe someone from Student Business Services if they had thier lips notarized. None of them know whats going on and they all give different answers to the same question.

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i wont believe anything till I see my bill for the fall
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post Mar 28 2006, 05:03 PM
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It's not really a flat rate tuition.

If it was a flat rate tuition, it would stay the same for everyone.

This is a variable rate tuition, because it changes for how many hours you take.


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QUOTE (Jyan @ Mar 28 2006, 05:03 PM)
It's not really a flat rate tuition.

If it was a flat rate tuition, it would stay the same for everyone.

This is a variable rate tuition, because it changes for how many hours you take.

no, if u do the math, its a flat rate tuition.


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its flat rate tuition for 12-15 hours
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