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 Jun 5 2006, 10:43 AM
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Congressman Charles Rangel (Democrat) introduced a bill (Universal National Service Act of 2006 - HR 4752 IH) aiming at drafting everyone from the ages of 18 to 42 into the military for a minimum of 2 years.
Quote from the bill: QUOTE To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes This bill was introduced February 14th and is scheduled to be debated and possibily adopted on 6-6-06. Read the bill online: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-4752 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.4752 |
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Jun 5 2006, 10:55 AM
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fuck that shit...
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Jun 5 2006, 10:56 AM
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Jun 5 2006, 10:58 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
I'm not worried. Draft bills get made up all the time and get shot down.
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Jun 5 2006, 11:08 AM
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yeah, and the uproar that would happen if it was adopted
i could just imagine 40 yo women fighting in the army..... -------------------- bored...so i did this
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Jun 5 2006, 12:34 PM
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 The Transient Aggie Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 21 |
QUOTE and for other purposes... !? --------------------  A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. |
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Jun 5 2006, 12:36 PM
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Italian. Yes. Group: Members Posts: 767 Joined: 22-February 06 From: - Member No.: 18 |
Draft Bills are political suicide
Not to mention just another way of politicians looking busy while doing nothing =o Timbo --------------------  |
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Jun 5 2006, 12:37 PM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
This is like the 20th draft bill Rangel has proposed. I don't know why he doesn't just give up.
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Jun 5 2006, 06:26 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (schwab @ Jun 5 2006, 12:08 PM) yeah, and the uproar that would happen if it was adopted i could just imagine 40 yo women fighting in the army..... yeah there would be a lot of milf sex going on between the ranks |
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Jun 5 2006, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE ...or a period of civilian service wtf does that mean? -------------------- |
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Jun 6 2006, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (woody @ Jun 5 2006, 11:39 PM) wtf does that mean? Red Cross, EMT ... somehing that would be useful during an all-out war or national emergency. Germany does this, but most women can't hack it in the Army, so chicks spend their two years doing some sort of other job to free up men to carry rifles. |
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Jun 6 2006, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (woody @ Jun 5 2006, 11:39 PM) wtf does that mean? QUOTE (2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by
15 the President, promotes the national defense, includ- 16 ing national or community service and homeland se- 17 curity. -------------------- |
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Jun 6 2006, 11:16 AM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jun 6 2006, 01:04 AM) Red Cross, EMT ... somehing that would be useful during an all-out war or national emergency. Germany does this, but most women can't hack it in the Army, so chicks spend their two years doing some sort of other job to free up men to carry rifles. Sorry, but you're wrong. Most women are every bit as capable of being in the military as a man is. It's just that society teaches them that said things are un-femenin. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jun 6 2006, 11:21 AM
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 DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
I'd support a bill that stated that people in this country need to get off their asses and work real jobs out in the cotton fields, oil patches, meat packing plants, etc .... so that all the illegals will stop coming over to do those jobs....
heh  IF we drafted people and made them work those jobs I'd support it but not to kill minorities in the name of god and shit. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Jun 6 2006, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (schwab @ Jun 5 2006, 11:08 AM) yeah, and the uproar that would happen if it was adopted i could just imagine 40 yo women fighting in the army..... There is a lot of paper to be shuffled. Nursing and administrative and other non combat fields do exist. I would like to see something like the public works, but only if they did pay for higher education too, maybe not fully just a 1:1 trade for time spent.. |
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Jun 6 2006, 11:30 AM
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I'd rather serve with the type of female mindset that volunteers for the military, than draft some of those myspace gotti and emo guys...
fuck that shit! I'm not saying you couldn't mold those dudes into something acceptable, but many guys today are just whiney, coddled twats and I wouldn't want to have to. all voluntary is the only way... |
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Jun 6 2006, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jun 6 2006, 11:30 AM) I'd rather serve with the type of female mindset that volunteers for the military, than draft some of those myspace gotti and emo guys... fuck that shit! I'm not saying you couldn't mold those dudes into something acceptable, but many guys today are just whiney, coddled twats and I wouldn't want to have to. all voluntary is the only way... That reminds me ... would they draft known gays? |
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Jun 6 2006, 11:36 AM
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hell I guess...
but it's not like "pole-smoker" is in your DMV or medical file... I've known a couple fags that were in tier-one soc units. there were probably more than I knew... |
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Jun 6 2006, 11:43 AM
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I think the biggest thing is that the military just dont know what to do with them ... men and women bunk in diffferent facilities where do u put the gays?
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Jun 6 2006, 11:44 AM
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I would support this. People will gain an understanding and hopefully appreciation of our military.
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Jun 6 2006, 11:46 AM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (M1N10N @ Jun 6 2006, 12:32 PM) That reminds me ... would they draft known gays? Based on what I've seen about the military's policy on gays, it's notoriously flexible when the military really needs people. QUOTE The degree of official and unofficial attempts to separate homosexuals from the armed forces seems to be directly related to the personnel needs of the armed forces. Hence, during wartime, it has not been uncommon for the rules regarding homosexuality to be relaxed, and up until 1981 it was the policy of all branches of the armed forces to retain a homosexual, at their discretion, thus promoting the "queen for a day" rule. This especially became the case during the Vietnam War, where some heterosexuals would fake homosexuality in an attempt to avoid being drafted or to be discharged rather than be shipped to Vietnam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_ask_don%27t_tell -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jun 6 2006, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jun 6 2006, 11:44 AM) I would support this. People will gain an understanding and hopefully appreciation of our military. I think people would be more likely to harbor resentment towards an oppressive force that took away several years of freedom... and I know I wouldn't want to be in a shit sandwich with a dude who's like "man fuck the marines for putting me here!" no thanks... |
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Jun 6 2006, 12:12 PM
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they should make two branches of each branch of the military
one volunteer and one drafted, then we can send in the drafted guys first |
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Jun 6 2006, 12:16 PM
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LOL
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Jun 6 2006, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jun 6 2006, 11:30 AM) I'd rather serve with the type of female mindset that volunteers for the military, than draft some of those myspace gotti and emo guys... fuck that shit! I'm not saying you couldn't mold those dudes into something acceptable, but many guys today are just whiney, coddled twats and I wouldn't want to have to. all voluntary is the only way... Operation Emo Shield! I think everyone should have to go through basic, but not two years. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jun 6 2006, 01:01 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (chook @ Jun 6 2006, 12:49 PM) Operation Emo Shield! I think everyone should have to go through basic, but not two years. many europeans are required to be military trained for 2 years. correct me if i'm wrong, but the group that comes to mind is germanic jews, after wwII --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jun 6 2006, 01:07 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
france had mandatory military service of 2-4 years for all males once they turn 18 up until 3 years ago or so.
in the UK most schools have mandatory ROTC type classes for boys and girls not that i support it -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Jun 6 2006, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 6 2006, 01:01 PM) many europeans are required to be military trained for 2 years. correct me if i'm wrong, but the group that comes to mind is germanic jews, after wwII yeah it's required in israel...male and female. they also have female infantry units. but they are not to be confused with lazy, pampered americans. |
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Jun 6 2006, 01:35 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Switzerland has 2 years mandatory service, I believe.
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Jun 6 2006, 01:36 PM
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Oh, here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription#...partial_list.29
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Jun 6 2006, 02:23 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,761 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Lubbock/Dubai Member No.: 57 |
i know finland has a 1 or 2 year, had a friend that was forced to go back to finland in the middle of college to serve it
but he just drank his way through it because really....what else does the finland army do -------------------- bored...so i did this
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Jun 7 2006, 12:28 AM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (schwab @ Jun 6 2006, 02:23 PM) i know finland has a 1 or 2 year, had a friend that was forced to go back to finland in the middle of college to serve it but he just drank his way through it because really....what else does the finland army do they play too much D&D, watch too much Conan o' brian. host too many hobbit movies, and make too much Finntroll videos -------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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