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post Dec 13 2007, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 02:32 PM) *
the job i am looking at REQUIRES or "strongly prefers" that i speak spanish


It's clearly laid out...ie no problem. What are you looking at doing?


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 13 2007, 01:37 PM) *
Do we really need a bill for this? If the person doesn't speak English, and you think this will be a problem in the future, then don't hire the person. If speaking English is a non-issue, then what does it matter anyway.


Uhh, probably because an employer would get hauled off to court and sued for discrimination by those cunts MALDEF


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 01:41 PM) *
SI

im not fluent yet but i can converse easily and i know more than enough to get by.

espero ke si!

and spec, i think social work?


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 13 2007, 01:37 PM) *
Do we really need a bill for this? If the person doesn't speak English, and you think this will be a problem in the future, then don't hire the person. If speaking English is a non-issue, then what does it matter anyway.

If somehow the job comes with the requirement that one must learn English after a year of obtaining the job, then it should be specified. I don't really see that much of a problem with the employer requiring the person to learn English (perhaps a little weird that you learn it after you get the job), and if the person doesn't, I don't see a person being fired for it.


but speaking english automatically qualifies you for minimum wage, speaking spanish doesnt. as an employer, i go for the cheap labor, the ones who dont understand they are getting screwed. fuck em, they took the chance coming here


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ Dec 13 2007, 02:43 PM) *
Uhh, probably because an employer would get hauled off to court and sued for discrimination by those cunts MALDEF

If that is discrimination, than so is not hiring someone because they did not perform well at their last job. It is an indication that they may have problems with certain situations (IMO this falls under "unable to perform the required tasks").


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Actually....that sort of "discrimination" is necessary in order for businesses to function.


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:47 PM
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it's funny how america has all these laws that favor immigrants, while most countries' laws favor their own citizens.


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (RitalinJunkie @ Dec 13 2007, 12:39 PM) *
Well...I think that languages you speak should be something on the resume (which it is on ever resume I've filled out), and that if you cant speak the language in which business is being done, in this case English (the language of the VAST majority), then you don't have the qualifications for the job. Thats not discrimination IMHO, it's "you aren't qualified for the position". Granted I'm sure someone will start trying to rip that apart as me being a bigot or racist in a couple minutes, but whatever.

You bigot racist =P


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (RitalinJunkie @ Dec 13 2007, 01:46 PM) *
If that is discrimination, than so is not hiring someone because they did not perform well at their last job. It is an indication that they may have problems with certain situations (IMO this falls under "unable to perform the required tasks").
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Actually....that sort of "discrimination" is necessary in order for businesses to function.


It isn't discrimination at all.

But it wasn't discrimination when the Round Rock Independent School District wrote 90 something truancy tickets when a bunch of spics walked out in the middle of class a year or two ago in protest of tougher border laws. They were given tickets because they skipped school.

But of course, fucking MALDEF decided to fight the tickets in court. Not all of them at once, mind you. They were trying to take every single defendant to trial separately. The tickets were finally dismissed and "justice" declared because fucking MALDEF already wasted $90k+ of our tax dollars because of their non profit exemption and it would have endlessly tied up the courts and jurors for months on end.

Trust me, those dickweeds will file a lawsuit for anything they see as unfair in their pea brained minds. I'm sure the NAACP would do the same thing if some black guy could only talk in Ebonics


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post Dec 13 2007, 01:56 PM
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lots of businesses have a portion of the business that depends on people who may not speak english. if they were to need to commicate, lets say to the other shipping supervisor at another warehouse theyd need to speak spanish

stop depending on cheap labor while at the same time saying nooooo bad wrong!


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post Dec 13 2007, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ Dec 13 2007, 01:55 PM) *
It isn't discrimination at all.

But it wasn't discrimination when the Round Rock Independent School District wrote 90 something truancy tickets when a bunch of spics walked out in the middle of class a year or two ago in protest of tougher border laws. They were given tickets because they skipped school.

But of course, fucking MALDEF decided to fight the tickets in court. Not all of them at once, mind you. They were trying to take every single defendant to trial separately. The tickets were finally dismissed and "justice" declared because fucking MALDEF already wasted $90k+ of our tax dollars because of their non profit exemption and it would have endlessly tied up the courts and jurors for months on end.

Trust me, those dickweeds will file a lawsuit for anything they see as unfair in their pea brained minds. I'm sure the NAACP would do the same thing if some black guy could only talk in Ebonics
Frankly, Im sick of hearig about that... THOUSANDS walked out that day in El Paso. I'm sure other border cities had the same problem. Every single school, elementery through high school was on lockdown that day in El Paso. You couldn't even go to the bathroom without an adult escort. Of course, upper class Austin and surrounding area has to blow things way out of proportion. Learn to deal. Mexicans have taken over Texas.
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post Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM
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black dialect - ebonics is already an official language. you can still speak "jive"


this country is going to become more and more diverse. guess what america, soon it may be time to declare at least two official language like so many other countries. than you guys will even be expected to learn another language!


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM) *
black dialect - ebonics is already an official language. you can still speak "jive"


Spanish is an official language.

What's your point?


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post Dec 13 2007, 02:04 PM
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i was just saying thats funny. "jive"


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post Dec 13 2007, 02:06 PM
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Shut up, jive turkey


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post Dec 13 2007, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM) *
guess what america, soon it may be time to declare at least two official language like so many other countries.

because we already have one official language??


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