If im not mistaken... you'd just call that ... an uncle (if above)

So that when you say "once removed" you know what the term means (as in going below)

Maybe i caught something wrong, but usually once removed up would just be called a "second uncle" for example, and not "2nd cousin, once removed"

and 2nd grandfather, etc. no "removed" until below you.

your charts only showed "cousins" which i don't know why you'd do it that way

Well, I got it from the wikipedia article on cousins.

And for your first cousin, their parent is their aunt/uncle. Never heard of a second grandfather or uncle though.

(yeah, ima make you move it, we're semi on topic about "family dynasties" with the consanguinity talk)

Yeah, nevermind, i was looking at chart wrong (in my book)

Goes both ways... disregard

god i hate consanguinity

http://ethics.nv.gov/Consanguinity%20Chart...explanation.pdf

And apparently, our system is one of the simplest. My boyfriend was explaining some ways of doing things in other cultures and it's a lot more complicated.