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Sep 25 2007, 12:56 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
still though again with the "we polled 500 people, so that means all of America". It's called statistics... You can't realistically poll every individual in the United States who is between the ages of 18-24. It would be impractical and would cost a fortune. But I feel like we have had this conversation many times before, so i'll leave it at that. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 25 2007, 01:39 PM
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Yes I have heard of this "statistics" you speak of. It's simply my opinion that a poll of 500 people doesn't necessarily reflect a population of 300 million. Obviously it's not reasonable to poll a large enough number to get an accurate idea, so why bother?
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Sep 25 2007, 01:47 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Yes I have heard of this "statistics" you speak of. It's simply my opinion that a poll of 500 people doesn't necessarily reflect a population of 300 million. Obviously it's not reasonable to poll a large enough number to get an accurate idea, so why bother? Yeah, well you are in the minority of people who do not believe in statistics. I am not going to argue the finer points of statistics because I believe it will be pointless. That's OK I guess... -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 25 2007, 02:10 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Yeah, well you are in the minority of people who do not believe in statistics. This is not true though, please don't put words in my mouth. I simply don't believe blanket representations of our country's population based on a 500 person poll is very accurate. Do you? |
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Sep 25 2007, 02:36 PM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,558 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Seoul, South Korea Member No.: 28 |
from front page of www.foxnews.com
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Sep 25 2007, 03:22 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 26-June 06 From: San Marcos and San Antonio Member No.: 221 |
I learned something new... Iran does not have gays. Just a population of very angry, single men and women.
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Sep 25 2007, 04:54 PM
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![]() N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
Billy, comparing the big bang theory to the holocaust is preposterous. Definitely an apples and oranges thing. We have never observed the big bang. I am not going to make a more in-depth rebuttal, but have you read up on the Big Bang before you made this claim? There is quite a bit of observation. I will let the wikipedia entry speak for me. After reading this entry, if you are still convinced that comparing a cosmological observation that is constantly denied by religious followers to an observed historic event that is constantly denied by political opponents is analagous to comparing apples and oranges, I doubt any internet debate will change your mind; nor mine. I apologize for the tangent. -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 25 2007, 05:34 PM
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I am not going to make a more in-depth rebuttal, but have you read up on the Big Bang before you made this claim? There is quite a bit of observation. I will let the wikipedia entry speak for me. After reading this entry, if you are still convinced that comparing a cosmological observation that is constantly denied by religious followers to an observed historic event that is constantly denied by political opponents is analagous to comparing apples and oranges, I doubt any internet debate will change your mind; nor mine. I apologize for the tangent. Pretty sure most agree you are comparing apples to oranges (scientific theory to historical fact) But nothing anyone says will change your mind so alas, what is the point. -------------------- |
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Sep 25 2007, 05:47 PM
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Pretty sure most agree you are comparing apples to oranges (scientific But nothing anyone says will change your mind so alas, what is the point. Then most are wrong. -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 25 2007, 05:57 PM
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This is not true though, please don't put words in my mouth. I simply don't believe blanket representations of our country's population based on a 500 person poll is very accurate. Do you? Yes, as long as the sample was completely random And you obviously don't believe in statistics since using representative samples is part of that discipline. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 25 2007, 06:15 PM
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Sep 25 2007, 06:31 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Yes I have heard of this "statistics" you speak of. It's simply my opinion that a poll of 500 people doesn't necessarily reflect a population of 300 million. Obviously it's not reasonable to poll a large enough number to get an accurate idea, so why bother? It comes down to proper sampling technique, Impala. If subjects are chosen at random, the sample should be representative of the population, within a certainty of a few percentage points. There is a large amount of research devoted to proper sampling technique, but a lot of national surveys are conducted over the telephone, with numbers chosen randomly by a program. That having been said, it's certainly possible for a sample to not closely represent the population, even if traditional sampling theory is used. That's why statistics are more likely to be trusted if a similar range of numbers has been discovered though multiple, independently-conducted surveys. -------------------- |
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Sep 25 2007, 06:37 PM
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![]() N 0 t h i n g Group: Members Posts: 1,449 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 54 |
"im not crazy, everyone else is" Witty quotes won't make you any more educated on the topic. If you would like to know more about the Big Bang, I would recommend talking to Dr. Anderson or take his Nuclear Engineering course (you're still at Tech right?). Honestly, he has more credibility than anyone on this message board. So if it's between some law student or a pot heat claiming the Big Bang is just theory and him saying it isn't, I think I'm going to believe him. But he must be crazy since Seth knows everything about everything. -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 25 2007, 07:03 PM
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![]() monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
my cousin beth goes to columbia, she posted some pictures on facebook:
people gathering to watch the speech outside ![]() hippies not working ![]() more hippies not working ![]() spot the secret service and win $5 ![]() spot the nypd and win $10 ![]() probably written by some hippie/immigrant
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Sep 25 2007, 07:07 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
HAHAHA
He misspelled Bin Laden! -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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