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post Jun 11 2007, 02:31 PM
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hmm... ok you didn't, but you did say religion is the basis for most of the world's problems. you listed every current major conlifct that you could think of, and said religion was the reason. I think this makes no sense, as it's all simply blind hate. It's the same reason you still won't answer the simple question that I will asked: Do you think if the Israelis suddenly converted to Islam, that muslim countries would no longer hate them & bomb them?


OH MY GOD. YES. THEY WOULD BLOW UP EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE. ISRAEL WOULD BE TURNED INTO DERKA DERKA AMUSEMENT PARK.

Is that the answer you're looking for?

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our country is different than the rest of the world. I explained this in my last post, I suppose I can do it one more time. Religion does not have a say in politics. People who are religious are elected by those that are religious. Majority rules in our democratic country, so if it happens that the majority have certain beliefs, those will be reflected in our legislation. You act as though Bishop Jones down the street is waltzing into the state capital to present his bill on anti-gay marraige.


Think about this.

Let's say you were just elected president. There's a current issue on the table that states Mormons want to erect a statue of a cow. Your religious views or beliefs state that idol worship is wrong. The majority believes that as well. The mormons want to have equal representation. Equal rights. What gives you the right to deny them erecting their own religious symbol to celebrate their beliefs because you're told otherwise? Your decision to deny their request was not because it would create turmoil in the community. It was because it would conflict with your belief. Yes the majority always wins out...but is it right? Is it equal? That's where America fails. How can we be free and equal when the majority has total control?


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I'd love to see how you drew this conclusion.


your completely misplaced comment about stepping on my apparently gay little toes...if you hate homosexuals you still hate

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I believe homosexuality is wrong. It's not a prejudice, because I judged it myself to be wrong. When I first learned of the concept, I thought it was wrong. My logical brain tells me it's wrong, and my religion tells me it's wrong. Does it mean I'm going to automatically hate someone because they're gay? No. So no, I'm not prejudice in the least.


Did you judge it to be wrong because your logic and reasoning was influenced by your religion telling you it's wrong?

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haha ok so legislation doesn't even have to pass for you to get your panties in a wad about it.


Yes.

You should see my panties when stuff like that gets blown out of proportion.



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explain to me how you can "push" your beliefs on someone. I love this term. it makes absolutely no damn sense whatsoever. what is so absolutely terrifying to you about having someone come talk to you, and you telling them to go away? I get four f'n calls a day from people asking me to consolidate my student loans (which have now been consolidated for three years!). that's annoying as hell to me, but once I hang up the phone I continue about my business. I don't cry about it to others, or complain that the student loan people are ruining my life. gimme a f'n break and get a kleenex.


I don't bitch and moan about it. It came up in discussion because we're talking about it now. The fact of the matter is, it should never happen. Why can't people believe what they believe. Why do you need to recruit someone into believing what you believe? You can tell them to go away. But they come back. And they come back in force. Fortunately, for you, you can block numbers on your phone. You can't block people from talking to you.


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post Jun 11 2007, 02:33 PM
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You broke the quote button....weird. Maybe not.


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post Jun 11 2007, 02:40 PM
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Impala thinks that Christianity doesn't step on people's toes but other religions do.


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post Jun 11 2007, 02:46 PM
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Some people have big feet, so their toes will get inevitably get stepped on.


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post Jun 11 2007, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 11 2007, 03:31 PM) *
OH MY GOD. YES. THEY WOULD BLOW UP EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE. ISRAEL WOULD BE TURNED INTO DERKA DERKA AMUSEMENT PARK.

Is that the answer you're looking for?

yep. thanks biggrin.gif

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Think about this.

Let's say you were just elected president. There's a current issue on the table that states Mormons want to erect a statue of a cow. Your religious views or beliefs state that idol worship is wrong. The majority believes that as well. The mormons want to have equal representation. Equal rights. What gives you the right to deny them erecting their own religious symbol to celebrate their beliefs because you're told otherwise? Your decision to deny their request was not because it would create turmoil in the community. It was because it would conflict with your belief. Yes the majority always wins out...but is it right? Is it equal? That's where America fails. How can we be free and equal when the majority has total control?

First of all, if I was president, I wouldn't concern myself with mormans putting up a cow statue. If I was, I wouldn't vote against it, unless it was put on government property, and if it was on government property, I'd say it's not allowed because of separation of church and state (assuming the cow is supposed to represent some make believe morman religious symbol you just came up with for the sake of argument).

Second, you're not showing an understanding of what "equal rights" means. Equal rights doesn't mean you have one of each race, religion, ethnicity, skin color, culture, phsyical appearance, sexual orientation, NFL conference fan, and any other segregated belief system you can come up with representing you in government. Equal rights means every person who is a citizen of this country has an equal opportunity according to our constitution and laws.

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your completely misplaced comment about stepping on my apparently gay little toes...if you hate homosexuals you still hate
Did you judge it to be wrong because your logic and reasoning was influenced by your religion telling you it's wrong?
Yes.

so because I said "gay little toes" you saying I hate homosexuals? you sound like a pretty predjudiced person yourself. I told you my feelings on homosexuals, and whether you choose to believe it is not of my concern. my logic and reasoning told me it was wrong pretty simply, you can put a peg in a hole, but not in another peg.

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You should see my panties when stuff like that gets blown out of proportion.
I don't bitch and moan about it. It came up in discussion because we're talking about it now. The fact of the matter is, it should never happen. Why can't people believe what they believe. Why do you need to recruit someone into believing what you believe? You can tell them to go away. But they come back. And they come back in force. Fortunately, for you, you can block numbers on your phone. You can't block people from talking to you.

so basically this boils down to, you can't handle conflict. do you break down and cry when the mormans come to the door? are they coming 3,4,5 times a week? night and day? when I lived over off 30th and S, they came to the door about once every few months, and we (in a nice way) told them to F' off. if you can't handle that, you got a tough world ahead of you.

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Impala thinks that Christianity doesn't step on people's toes but other religions do.

oh geez, I'm not bored enough at work to deal with two village idiots. what exactly made you draw this incorrect conclusion?
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post Jun 11 2007, 03:26 PM
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You think your logic is infallible.

I never said my viewpoints were the be all end all but you seem to believe that everyone has to answer your specific questions and agree with your points.

Your questions are just as retarded as mine and I'd much prefer to be the village idiot than the village bigot.


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post Jun 11 2007, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 11 2007, 04:26 PM) *
You think your logic is infallible.

I never said my viewpoints were the be all end all but you seem to believe that everyone has to answer your specific questions and agree with your points.

Your questions are just as retarded as mine and I'd much prefer to be the village idiot than the village bigot.


so you want to be both?


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post Jun 11 2007, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Jun 11 2007, 04:44 PM) *
so you want to be both?


in a perfect world


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