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Jun 7 2007, 05:45 PM
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![]() Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
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Jun 9 2007, 10:38 AM
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Middle Easterners are training suicide bombers. They may claim to be Muslim, but the work they do in the name of Allah is a gross bastardization of Islam. Those people cannot legitimately call themselves Muslim any more than people who bomb abortion clinics can call themselves Christian. These are all products of religion. Burning people in the Salem witch trials is a product of religion. Arresting and torturing scientists because they discovered the world revolves around the sun is a product of religion. Legally murdering children because they had premarital sex is a product of religion. Religion teaches ignorance. In this country, at this point in time, we are realitively religous opression free. But if we do not end these silly and harmful beliefs, in the event we ever fall to fear and ignorance again, the world will repeat these mistakes. It is possible to be religious and not harmful, as an individual. It is not, as a group. -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 9 2007, 11:12 AM
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![]() Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
These are all products of religion. Burning people in the Salem witch trials is a product of religion. Arresting and torturing scientists because they discovered the world revolves around the sun is a product of religion. Legally murdering children because they had premarital sex is a product of religion. Religion teaches ignorance. In this country, at this point in time, we are realitively religous opression free. But if we do not end these silly and harmful beliefs, in the event we ever fall to fear and ignorance again, the world will repeat these mistakes. It is possible to be religious and not harmful, as an individual. It is not, as a group. SCIENCE, BE DAMNED!!!
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Jun 9 2007, 11:24 AM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
These are all products of religion. Burning people in the Salem witch trials is a product of religion. Arresting and torturing scientists because they discovered the world revolves around the sun is a product of religion. Legally murdering children because they had premarital sex is a product of religion. Religion teaches ignorance. In this country, at this point in time, we are realitively religous opression free. But if we do not end these silly and harmful beliefs, in the event we ever fall to fear and ignorance again, the world will repeat these mistakes. It is possible to be religious and not harmful, as an individual. It is not, as a group. Religion is just like any other ideology. It's not harmful in and of itself, but people can apply it in a manner that can make it a very dangerous thing. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jun 9 2007, 12:07 PM
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Stalin killed millions, hitler killed millions, mongolians/chinese/japanese all killed TONS of people without any religion at all. Considering the centuries of war between china and japan would help account for many deaths NOT based on religion. Millions have also been killed for ethnic cleansing (which i would argue might be MORE than religion).
Hell just look at every american war (or wars by ANY country that happened AFTER this continent was found even). Napolean, Korean wars, WWI, WWII Hell even in afganistan, where russians were defeated, it can't be considered "in the name of religion" since it was just a battle for land and muslims were pushing them out. So im sorry but fighting for POWER is the main killer in my opinion and NOT religion. (even though YES religion has been claimed for some wars in our history). -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2007, 02:04 PM
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SCIENCE, BE DAMNED!!! ![]() I thought these two episodes were fucking brilliant. "But their answer to the great question is different than ours!" -------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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Jun 9 2007, 02:10 PM
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Stalin killed millions, hitler killed millions, mongolians/chinese/japanese all killed TONS of people without any religion at all. Considering the centuries of war between china and japan would help account for many deaths NOT based on religion. Millions have also been killed for ethnic cleansing (which i would argue might be MORE than religion). Hell just look at every american war (or wars by ANY country that happened AFTER this continent was found even). Napolean, Korean wars, WWI, WWII Hell even in afganistan, where russians were defeated, it can't be considered "in the name of religion" since it was just a battle for land and muslims were pushing them out. So im sorry but fighting for POWER is the main killer in my opinion and NOT religion. (even though YES religion has been claimed for some wars in our history). I will agree. Wars fought over politics has killed more than religion. But murders due from religion have killed more than video games. If we are going to ban video games for minors on the basis that it trains killers, then we need to also ban religion. -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 9 2007, 02:15 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
so the holocaust had nothing to do with jews? yes ethnic cleansing is sometimes more than religious but what designated them as jews? being yewish
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Jun 9 2007, 02:37 PM
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I will agree. Wars fought over politics has killed more than religion. But murders due from religion have killed more than video games. If we are going to ban video games for minors on the basis that it trains killers, then we need to also ban religion. Religion has been around since the beginning of man. Video games have been round for 50 years. Maybe this is why your statement seems totally ignorant? -------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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Jun 9 2007, 02:57 PM
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I will agree. Wars fought over politics has killed more than religion. But murders due from religion have killed more than video games. If we are going to ban video games for minors on the basis that it trains killers, then we need to also ban religion. Oh ok, yeah... lol i can agree with that -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2007, 02:57 PM
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Religion has been around since the beginning of man. Video games have been round for 50 years. Maybe this is why your statement seems totally ignorant? I am having a hard time understanding why this is even relevant? Unless your point is that I have a much bigger history to attack religion on. Then fine. Let's look at the past 50 years then. Murders of homosexuals. Mass murders of Kurds. Turkish murders of christians. Why even go on? If you truley believe more people have been murdered over video games in the past 50 years than over differences of religions, please go kill yourself. You don't deserve your humanity. And actually, don't come back to this thread until your IQ is over 40. Spare yourself the embarrassment. And I've decided to rename you Jessica. *BUT* if that's not what you're saying, then I rescind this statement. -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 9 2007, 03:00 PM
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so the holocaust had nothing to do with jews? yes ethnic cleansing is sometimes more than religious but what designated them as jews? being yewish Jewish isn't just a religion. People were killled for being ETHNICALLY jewish, not religiously. And since it was them being killed by people with NO religious meaning behind the killing i wouldn't call it killing BECAUSE of religion.... more the hatred of it. -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2007, 03:18 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
so hatred of a religion and killing because of that isnt killing because of religion?
why are jewish people ethnically jewish? because they are jews -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Jun 9 2007, 04:00 PM
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I am having a hard time understanding why this is even relevant? Unless your point is that I have a much bigger history to attack religion on. Then fine. Let's look at the past 50 years then. Murders of homosexuals. Mass murders of Kurds. Turkish murders of christians. Why even go on? If you truley believe more people have been murdered over video games in the past 50 years than over differences of religions, please go kill yourself. You don't deserve your humanity. And actually, don't come back to this thread until your IQ is over 40. Spare yourself the embarrassment. And I've decided to rename you Jessica. *BUT* if that's not what you're saying, then I rescind this statement. I don't even think that video games are a contribution to murders more than anything else people experience every day. Do you read my posts or just see what you want to see? I think you have an irrational hatred for religion and you bring it up every opportunity. People do kill for religion, but many also kill for land, power, and wealth. By your logic we should also ban minors from wearing Air Jordans because people kill for them too. -------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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Jun 9 2007, 04:04 PM
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Formerly known as Ctex Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 23 |
If you truley believe more people have been murdered over video games in the past 50 years than over differences of religions, please go kill yourself. You don't deserve your humanity. And actually, don't come back to this thread until your IQ is over 40. Spare yourself the embarrassment. And I've decided to rename you Jessica. I don't remember you being this mean before, but maybe marriage changes people. Which reminds me, didn't you get married in a church? I do see a cross in some of those pictures. If you hate religion so much, why dare step foot in church? In fact, why even get married? |
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