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> As of now, who is your choice for President?, vote!
Please vote for Republican AND Democrat candidates:
Who is your Democratic candidate of choice?
Senator Joe Biden [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Senator Hillary Clinton [ 5 ] ** [13.51%]
Senator Christopher Dodd [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Former Senator John Edwards [ 1 ] ** [2.70%]
Former Senator Mike Gravel [ 3 ] ** [8.11%]
Representative Dennis Kucinich [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Senator Barack Obama [ 15 ] ** [40.54%]
Governor Bill Richardson [ 5 ] ** [13.51%]
none of the above [ 8 ] ** [21.62%]
Who is your Republican candidate of choice?
Senator Sam Brownback [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
John Cox [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Jim Gilmore, former Governor of Virginia [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Rudy Giuliani, former mayor of New York City [ 6 ] ** [16.22%]
Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Representative Duncan Hunter [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Senator John McCain [ 6 ] ** [16.22%]
Representative Ron Paul, M.D. [ 8 ] ** [21.62%]
Mitt Romney, former Governor of Massachusetts [ 4 ] ** [10.81%]
Representative Tom Tancredo [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Tommy Thompson, former Governor of Wisconsin [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Senator Chuck Hagel [ 2 ] ** [5.41%]
George Pataki, former Governor of New York [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Fred Dalton Thompson, former Senator [ 2 ] ** [5.41%]
none of the above [ 9 ] ** [24.32%]
Total Votes: 37
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post May 17 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ May 17 2007, 06:03 PM) *
It has come to my attention that many people on this forum not only talk out of their ass when it comes to politics but lack the basic skills to research and confirm or deny their ass-talkery.

Not talking about you Impala, even though i'm posting right below you. You're actually on the up-and-up with research.


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post May 17 2007, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ May 17 2007, 06:03 PM) *
It has come to my attention that many people on this forum not only talk out of their ass when it comes to politics but lack the basic skills to research and confirm or deny their ass-talkery.

Not talking about you Impala, even though i'm posting right below you. You're actually on the up-and-up with research.

I'd venture to say that a lot more uninformed people vote for president than do people with any research. How many Americans are going to vote for Obama just because Oprah said to?


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post May 17 2007, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 17 2007, 07:12 PM) *
I'd venture to say that a lot more uninformed people vote for president than do people with any research. How many Americans are going to vote for Obama just because Oprah said to?


wefare moms who don't have jobs who are home during the day sitting on their asses watching oprah instead of working while the kids are at school.


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post May 17 2007, 07:36 PM
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good point.

Then again, as far as the oprah vote goes, she could have picked worse.


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post May 17 2007, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ May 17 2007, 07:36 PM) *
good point.

Then again, as far as the oprah vote goes, she could have picked worse.


barack obama is the john mccain of democrats.

in other words, he sucks.


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post May 17 2007, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ May 17 2007, 08:36 PM) *
good point.

Then again, as far as the oprah vote goes, she could have picked worse.

She only had two choices: Obama because he's black or Hillary because she's a woman. I think it's kind of foolish for celebrities to publicly endorse a candidate this early, because then when their candidate isn't given the bid they're like "Vote for this guy, he's my second choice!"


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post May 17 2007, 07:54 PM
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i want to see the vast right-wing conspiracy concentrate it's efforts on seperating oprah from her "halo" so to speak.

If there was ever a good use for a vast right-wing conspiracy it's that!


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post May 17 2007, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 17 2007, 08:47 PM) *
She only had two choices: Obama because he's black or Hillary because she's a woman. I think it's kind of foolish for celebrities to publicly endorse a candidate this early, because then when their candidate isn't given the bid they're like "Vote for this guy, he's my second choice!"

that's just it though; the oprah vote is pretty much gonna cinch it for obama. hillary has too many skeletons and too many people that flat out hate her. if the democrats want a president, they're going to realize that she's not gonna guarantee the vote the way that obama would.

That's not to say hillary wont necessarily try to run anyways; if she does, however, she ends up guaranteeing another republican presidency (depending on the GOP final contender).

If by some reason obama doesn't get it, i don't see oprah backpeddling; rather I see her simply not mentioning it at all (at least for a while) and laying politically low during the election season.


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post May 17 2007, 08:35 PM
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I think that oprah and obama should fuck so a paparazzi can sleuth the videos and post it on the internet and discredit them both for having an intimate fascination with each other's sexparts.


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post May 17 2007, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 17 2007, 08:35 PM) *
wefare moms who don't have jobs who are home during the day sitting on their asses watching oprah instead of working while the kids are at school.

she has a much larger audience than you might think. as much as i hate celebs getting into the political arena, if any of them can affect political change, it is oprah
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post May 17 2007, 11:24 PM
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yeah. the oprah vote is huge. And, the part of them that you call welfare moms with nothing to do is the same part that goes and votes -- they have nothing to do, like you said.


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post May 18 2007, 07:18 AM
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