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post May 15 2007, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 15 2007, 01:46 PM) *
I knew one of you losers would say this. It has nothing to do with which movie it was. Nobody here can honestly say that that movie comes to mind when teaching algebra to high school freshmen. No more than having the kids listen to Rush Limbaugh would help teach geometry.


What the hell have I been saying then? Assuming that video has numerous charts and graphs, then yes, it has a place in a high school mathematics classroom. I'm sure we could find a way to fit Rush into a high school geometry class. It would just take quite a bit more work. It would be considerably easier to discuss him in a health class though.


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post May 15 2007, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 15 2007, 01:15 PM) *
You're mad, Impala, about Gore's movie because it shows a view you don't agree with.

Well how about me? I'm pretty liberal, yet I don't think it should've been shown either. As James said, if only portions of the movie with graphs/statistics were shown, then it might have been appropriate for a math class, but showing the whole film certainly wasn't. I do think it would've been appropriate in a political science class, however, if accompanied by another film showing the opposing viewpoint. Doing a point-by-point discussion of the issues discussed therein could have been very educational.

I disagree with Brokeback Mountain being shown at all. It doesn't have a place in any classroom setting that I can think of.


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post May 15 2007, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (James @ May 15 2007, 01:20 PM) *
Do you really believe that a teacher can go a career without expressing their political beliefs in class? Whether it be on purpose or by mistake, it will happen. That district policy is a little confusing. Seems like it is written as someone's interpretation because it covers a wide range of topics, but I will address each one:

Teachers are not supposed to use the classroom to transmit personal or political beliefs: impossible. Teachers have to transmit personal beliefs at some point or they will be nothing more than mindless drones to their students.

So you can go back and tell me the political affiliation, religion, and stance on public issues of every teacher you've ever had? BS

QUOTE (James @ May 15 2007, 01:20 PM) *
Both sides of controversial subjects are supposed to be discussed: Prove that the teacher discussed the content of the video from a perspective other than mathematically. Then prove that the teacher didn't follow up with a video from the other side. Good luck with that one. Keep in mind that the only witnesses to the incident are the teacher and the students. Everything else is second-hand knowledge. Given a child's penchant for exaggeration, I don't see how you can rely on their statements as being completely factual.

The teacher didn't follow up with a video from the other side... how is that difficult to prove? The teacher didn't even make that claim... she made the (absolutely BS) claim that it was for teaching algebra.

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Movies should have educational purposes only: I addressed this in my initial post. Furthermore, defining "educational purposes" is no easy task as there are many different teaching philosophies. None of the philosophies are wrong if they get results.

So again, you honestly believe that a high school freshman will have some educational benefit to an algebra class by watching this movie? This is highly disturbing to me if our future teachers are going into the workplace with this notion.

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Parents must give consent for any movie rated PG, PG-13, or R: Wow, this rule bothers me as a potential future teacher. Obviously, I would never show an R-rated movie to my students, but there are PG movies that I was shown, Stand and Deliver for instance, that I don't feel should warrant permission slips from the parents. I suppose it is always a possibility that the teacher acquired a general permission statement from the parents at the beginning of the year. I would certainly do so to waive the PG and PG-13 requirement. Also, in almost every other country, that movie was rated G.

This had no impact on this case either imo. I agree that there should be a blanket kind of movie rating system, but the situation does fall under the first item of "teachers not to transmit political beliefs".

QUOTE (James @ May 15 2007, 01:20 PM) *
Given that information on Brokeback Mountain, it probably shouldn't have been shown unless it is considered to be historically accurate and then it should be properly censored to exclude any sex scenes.

I'd be interested to hear what all you Christian haters (not sayin you are James, just a blanket question) would say if they'd shown Passion of the Christ instead of brokeback mountain. I don't agree with either movie being shown, as rated R movies which aren't related to classroom material should never be shown.
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post May 15 2007, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE (James @ May 15 2007, 01:52 PM) *
I'm sure we could find a way to fit Rush into a high school geometry class. It would just take quite a bit more work. It would be considerably easier to discuss him in a health class though.

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has anyone here actually seen gore's movie? if so, would you be willing to confirm/deny whether there are enough charts and graphs to be shown in school?
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post May 15 2007, 01:07 PM
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the sad part is... this actually makes me want to watch his dumbass movie, just to laugh at.
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post May 15 2007, 01:12 PM
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a co-worker's opinion on the brokeback mountain thing:
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post May 15 2007, 01:18 PM
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So you can go back and tell me the political affiliation, religion, and stance on public issues of every teacher you've ever had? BS

I can't, but only because I can't remember all my teachers, but those that I do remember from high school and college, I'd say around 75% of them stated a political belief, religious belief, or public issue stance at some point during their teachings. I have revealed political beliefs and public issues stances in class before.

The teacher didn't follow up with a video from the other side... how is that difficult to prove? The teacher didn't even make that claim... she made the (absolutely BS) claim that it was for teaching algebra.
So again, you honestly believe that a high school freshman will have some educational benefit to an algebra class by watching this movie? This is highly disturbing to me if our future teachers are going into the workplace with this notion.

It's difficult for you to prove. You don't have all the facts, just what was written in the article. You don't know what this teacher does in his/her daily routine. No one, other than the students and the teacher, knows what happens in the classroom on a daily basis. Whether that's a good thing or not is not for this thread. Tell me, why are you disturbed by a teacher that is willing to try innovative ideas? Isn't that the American way? If anything, you should be concerned by the huge deficit in available teachers, the inability of older teachers to learn new and improved methodoligies, and the consequences on our children as they are taught the same material in nearly the same manner their great grandparents were taught when they were children. Progress only happens through change.

This had no impact on this case either imo. I agree that there should be a blanket kind of movie rating system, but the situation does fall under the first item of "teachers not to transmit political beliefs".

Yeah, an item which is flawed. Show your students that you're human, too, and a bond will be developed sooner. This is not something I learned from a book or from a classroom. This is something I have experienced.

I'd be interested to hear what all you Christian haters (not sayin you are James, just a blanket question) would say if they'd shown Passion of the Christ instead of brokeback mountain. I don't agree with either movie being shown, as rated R movies which aren't related to classroom material should never be shown.

LOL. Yeah. Definitely not a Christian hater, I have seen Passion of the Christ, and I don't have a problem with showing it in a classroom as long as it is done so in an educational manner. Maybe in conjunction with a unit over religious persecution in a history class. Just as I would consider showing Saving Private Ryan during a WWII unit.


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post May 15 2007, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 15 2007, 01:55 PM) *
Well how about me? I'm pretty liberal, yet I don't think it should've been shown either. As James said, if only portions of the movie with graphs/statistics were shown, then it might have been appropriate for a math class, but showing the whole film certainly wasn't. I do think it would've been appropriate in a political science class, however, if accompanied by another film showing the opposing viewpoint. Doing a point-by-point discussion of the issues discussed therein could have been very educational.

I disagree with Brokeback Mountain being shown at all. It doesn't have a place in any classroom setting that I can think of.



I only address impala on that issue because he I really doubt he would have posted this topic had it been a movie over 'dispelling the myths of global warming'. I later agreed that politics has no place in the classroom assuming showing the file was politically motivated.


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post May 15 2007, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 15 2007, 02:19 PM) *
I only address impala on that issue because he I really doubt he would have posted this topic had it been a movie over 'dispelling the myths of global warming'. I later agreed that politics has no place in the classroom assuming showing the file was politically motivated.

I guess there isn't any movie "dispelling the myths of global warming" to show, or if there is, no teacher has felt compelled to show it, or no one was upset about it being shown. /shrug. not sure what else I can do. I posted the topic because I thought it was interesting. seeing as it's had 22 replies in the past hour and a half, I'd say that was a pretty safe guess.

and James, on proving that they didn't do anything else, the al gore movie issue is local down here to houston, and I've been hearing about it on the radio and local news as well so I've probably had the luxury of more information than the article I posted shows. as far as I've seen, the movie was shown simply as a filler while they were waiting for others to finish the TAAKS (sp?) test.
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post May 15 2007, 01:30 PM
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I think if a teacher showed a movie like that, they should be fired.
I'm not against gays or anything, but kids (under 18) should not be allowed to watch things like this in the classroom. It will only distract from the class, because we all know how high school boys will make fun of the movie the whole way and make jokes all day long. It was a very stupid idea to show that movie.
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 15 2007, 01:56 PM) *
I'd be interested to hear what all you Christian haters (not sayin you are James, just a blanket question) would say if they'd shown Passion of the Christ instead of brokeback mountain. I don't agree with either movie being shown, as rated R movies which aren't related to classroom material should never be shown.


I wouldn't care if they showed Passion of the Christ any more than if they had a lesson over Astrology as long as the lesson was over fiction.


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post May 15 2007, 01:33 PM
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so, you're fine with rated R movies being shown to 8th graders at school
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post May 15 2007, 01:34 PM
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As far as Al Gore's movie... umm, even if there WERE bars and graphs, wtf does that have to do with algebra? i doubt the movie used any algebraic graphs.


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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 15 2007, 02:33 PM) *
so, you're fine with rated R movies being shown to 8th graders at school


I think it isn't the end of the world if it happened. I wouldn't want the teacher fired over it. However, I think these things should be uncommon (as they currently are).


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rated R movie, no matter the subject shouldnt be shown unless they're 17/18 and older, whatever the law is.


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