i dont see how a foreigner can complain about the citizenship process in america. i think its just being ignorant.
my mom is a legal alien without citizenship and i dont believe she can vote in anything (this was being discussed earlier)

or have a baby, because not only will you be able to stay here, you'll get free health care, too!

I will say this one last time:
- You cannot blame on Resident Alien for this tragic event by not allowing them to own a gun. Allowing resident to own a gun has nothing to do with this crime and won't prevent this types of event from occurring.

- If you choose to do so, you should also ask for ban of second amendment since more mass killing crimes been committed by US Citizens.

I see this "don't allow resident alien to own a gun" propaganda as a serious threat, and discrimination against foreign nationals. This gesture has very sickening underlying motivation and totally irrelevant to what has happened.

I am very disgusted by your individual opinions on this thread, and this is my final response to this ridiculous issue.

this has nothing to do with what happened directly. thats why it was split into a different thread
and im pretty sure if it was an american citizen who did this in another country similar discussions would happen

Why should a non-citizen be allowed to get the full rights of a citizen right off the bat, koreanp1e?

wow, just wow

Example:
So a person from Russia comes over to America for a 6 month vacation/school term/etc.

That person should be able to vote in an election here in the US?

omfg. A RESIDENT ALIEN. NOT A TOURIST. NUFF SAID.

I don't think it is unreasonable at all to deny certain people, including non-citizens the ability to purchase a firearm in the United States. It's not like we let just anyone (close, though) buy a guy; citizens that have been convicted of a felony can't purchase one.

I just read the first few pages of this thread and have more to add.

The fact that resident aliens pay taxes does not give them carte blance to the United States Bill of Right. Sounds harsh, right? Let me explain.

Taxes pay for services, not rights, provided by the government. Taxes pay for roads, law enforcement, hospitals, public education, firefighters, national defense, international humanitarian aid and the like. Resident aliens get their money's worth when paying taxes, just like citizens of the United States.

The idea that simply paying taxes gives someone the right to buy a semi-automatic 9mm handgun is absolutely ludicrous.

Yet, resident aliens enjoy pretty much the same rights as a United States citizen. They have the right to free speech, they have the right to a fair and speedy trial, they have the right to practice a religion of their choice, they have the right to be judged by a jury of their peers, etc.

This has nothing to do with race, and throwing that card out there in this argument is pretty weak.

hehe, I really enjoy just being an ass in this thread and pissing certain people off.

I agree with Aaron on this one.

No, Only citizens can vote. I'm really hoping you knew that.

The only thing that would change if i became a citizen would be: jury duty and voting

OMG NO WAI I DIDN'T KNOW THAT

NO SIREE BOB

SURE DIDN'T

NOPE





quoted for emphasis.

If you are a full on citizen, then you get all of the rights afforded to citizens.
"Depending on the country, permanent residents usually have the same rights as citizens except for:

* the right to vote (some countries allow this)
* the right to stand for public office
* the right to apply for public sector employment (some countries allow this)
* the right to apply for employment involving national security
* the right to hold the passport of that country
* the right to access the country's consular protection (some countries allow this)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_resident

Like I stated in another thread: I believe in having a license system for anyone to purchase guns and ammo. Citizens meeting the requirements could get said license. This isn't a point of racism. It is a matter of legal status within a State. Those trying to turn this into a "U.S. IS RACIST!@#!@" need to step back and look at this logically.

Well then, if you did know that then your example of the Russia coming over here makes no sense.

haha.

cant even keep a conversation going without posting with the purpose of stoking the flames.