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Mar 7 2007, 12:10 PM
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/4604407.html
QUOTE In a bill designed to crack down on sex offenders who repeatedly prey on children, the House voted to create a new category of crime  continual sexual abuse of a young child or children  that carries a minimum of 25 years to life in prison and possibly the death penalty for a second offense.
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Mar 7 2007, 12:25 PM
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![]() Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Slippery slope to prescribe the death penalty for crimes beyond their "eye for an eye" justification...
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Mar 7 2007, 08:43 PM
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instead, why don't we just send them to prison and assign an inmate to rape them on a regular basis....wouldn't that be an eye for an eye?
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Mar 7 2007, 09:27 PM
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The sad thing about this is that the supreme court ruled that a man raping an adult women couldn't be put to death constitutionally. They didn't address whether repeat offenders or pedos could.
Problem is that if someone were charged with this crime, they would be set free as soon as higher courts simply ruled it what it would be: unconstitutional... thus a pedo, or repeat sexual predator would walk because of this ass hat's law. -------------------- |
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Mar 7 2007, 11:11 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 20 |
What about those guards sexually molesting boys at that West Texas Youth Detention place?
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Mar 8 2007, 12:03 AM
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forsaken better stay away from the police
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Mar 8 2007, 02:21 AM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
The sad thing about this is that the supreme court ruled that a man raping an adult women couldn't be put to death constitutionally. They didn't address whether repeat offenders or pedos could. Problem is that if someone were charged with this crime, they would be set free as soon as higher courts simply ruled it what it would be: unconstitutional... thus a pedo, or repeat sexual predator would walk because of this ass hat's law. I'm not the law student, but would the ruling of guilt still stand and the sentence, not the crime still be upheld? -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Mar 8 2007, 11:10 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
I'm pretty sure they'd have to go back to court for re-sentencing if the higher courts deemed the death penalty unconstitutional in such cases.
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Mar 8 2007, 11:16 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
They just need space in prisons so it's easier to kill them off than to keep moving them around or setting them free.
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Mar 8 2007, 05:55 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
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Mar 8 2007, 05:57 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
Sigh... as if Texas doesn't ALREADY put enough people to death.
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Mar 8 2007, 09:19 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
I'm pretty sure they'd have to go back to court for re-sentencing if the higher courts deemed the death penalty unconstitutional in such cases. Well, the problem is that there wouldn't be any law to sentence them under if it were declared unconstitutional. And they couldn't sentence them under a new one because of the ex post facto clause of the constitution. (I'm not a lawyer though, so this is conjecture on my part) This post has been edited by pebkac: Mar 8 2007, 09:19 PM -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Mar 9 2007, 06:23 PM
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Well, the problem is that there wouldn't be any law to sentence them under if it were declared unconstitutional. And they couldn't sentence them under a new one because of the ex post facto clause of the constitution. (I'm not a lawyer though, so this is conjecture on my part) Thats what i was kinda getting at. They are passing a new law, not just forming a new sentencing for the guys. So in the very least, if only the death penalty was unconstitutional and they wanted to still preserve the law, they'd either have to give a new trial or new sentencing. However, with it being a new law, if the only sentence for a "second" offender was the death penalty. And they are convicted on the ground of being a "second time offender", then they may very well walk, with there being no other thing to charge them with and no other sentence to give them. Either way would be a waste of money and time... -------------------- |
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Mar 10 2007, 09:17 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
Well, the problem is that there wouldn't be any law to sentence them under if it were declared unconstitutional. And they couldn't sentence them under a new one because of the ex post facto clause of the constitution. (I'm not a lawyer though, so this is conjecture on my part) *looks at article again* Oh, completely new category of crime. I thought it was simply new sentencing options. Never mind. -------------------- |
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Mar 11 2007, 03:10 AM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
*looks at article again* Oh, completely new category of crime. I thought it was simply new sentencing options. Never mind. To get around it, just charge and convict them on two counts: one for sexual offense and one for repeat offender. If repeat offender is ruled unconstitutional, then the sexual offense count is still there to keep the offender in jail for at least a year or two. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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