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post Nov 8 2006, 01:44 PM
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anything ever involving veteran affairs is a ploy for "patriots" thats what ive always thought. helping after the fact can only do so much. why dont they change military policy so the miltary arent lab rats for the medical coporations. then maybe there would have been singular incidents of shit breaking down. i guess i am too removed from this aspect of life as my father a career military dude has never had a complaint but i dont see how the average american knows anything more?


after the fact is when most trigger pullers need the help.

your father, if I recall was stationed at Kadena in Oki, meaning airforce, meaning non trigger puller. so no he wouldn't have too many psychological or medical issues as a result of combat, thank god.

it's not all about experimental drugs.
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post Nov 8 2006, 02:36 PM
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post Nov 8 2006, 02:39 PM
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i like the video description:

Rush Limbaugh... political bulldog, sabre-rattler, bell end, armchair general, drug addict, scat muncher.

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post Nov 8 2006, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 8 2006, 02:36 PM) *


Wow. So only republicans scare you?


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post Nov 8 2006, 02:53 PM
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1) I dont know how I feel about pulling troops out of Iraq... Doesnt seem like the situation is going to change anytime soon and we are just wasting resources over there... at least thats what it seems like at this point.

2) Consolidating air traffic control, allowing foreign control of airlines, and limiting the TSA... wow. thats really stupid. On the other hand, many reports have shown that air travel isnt any safer then it was before 9/11.

3) I am all for raising minimum wage. I dont think economics courses can predict what the effect of raising minimum wage will be. Its all theoretical. As it very well could hurt the economy, it could also help it. I dont see $7.25 as unreasonable seeing as how minimum wage has been the same for 10 years.


Issues that are most important to me right now:
1) Education
2) Healthcare
3) Iraq
4) North Korea and Iran

I put Iraq before N.K. and Iran because we need to solve one problem at a time otherwise we will get in over our heads.


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post Nov 8 2006, 02:59 PM
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$7.25 isn't problematic, so long as it's increased incrementally. There will be problems if they try to increase it in one step.


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post Nov 8 2006, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 8 2006, 02:59 PM) *
$7.25 isn't problematic, so long as it's increased incrementally. There will be problems if they try to increase it in one step.


exactly.. baby steps

I feel its worse to leave it at 5.15 then it would be to slowly raise it
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post Nov 8 2006, 03:18 PM
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A decent explanation as to why increasing the minimum wage won't help as much as people think: http://ingrimayne.com/econ/AllocatingRatio...ceCeilings.html


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post Nov 8 2006, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 8 2006, 02:53 PM) *
2) Consolidating air traffic control, allowing foreign control of airlines, and limiting the TSA... wow. thats really stupid. On the other hand, many reports have shown that air travel isnt any safer then it was before 9/11.

What do you mean? Why would the safety of air travel be any different regarding 911? I know it seems obvious it would change but it really shouldn't have. I mean, over millions of flights, how many have crashed/been wrecked into buildings?
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post Nov 8 2006, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Nov 8 2006, 04:08 PM) *
What do you mean? Why would the safety of air travel be any different regarding 911? I know it seems obvious it would change but it really shouldn't have. I mean, over millions of flights, how many have crashed/been wrecked into buildings?



What the hell do you mean '"it should not have". Yeah, there were not many planes that were flown into buildings but there were many planes that were hijacked before 9/11, and those terrorists could have done the exact same thing if they wanted to. Not to mention all the other loonies who snuck guns onto planes. Do you remember the Titanic. After it sank, new regulations were put into place to guarantee a lifeboat for every person that traveled on ocean liners. It would be unthinkable and unresponsible not to reform the airline industry after 9/11.


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post Nov 8 2006, 04:49 PM
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I'm sorry to say this, but honestly I couldn't really give a rats ass who's in office. All any of the politicians care about is keeping themselves in office. Nobody ever has the balls to do what they really want to do because they don't want to upset the herd. Democrat, Republican, Independent, it doesn't matter. Sure my gas might go up 30%, but I don't care, I pay it and move on. Shit my cable and cell phone bills have gone up more than my gas costs.

It just seems to me our elections have a much more prominent effect on the rest of the world rather than our own nation.

The issues discussed here, how much is it really going to effect your daily life? For some, maybe it will, but for me... well to list the major issues discussed here:

1. Withdraw troops- ok... withdraw them, don't withdraw them... doesn't really matter to me.

2. Foreign Control of Airlines- not sure what all this means, but as long as I can fly somewhere and back without any problem, I don't really care.

3. Minimum Wage- Doesn't really matter to me what the burger flippers make. And if a company is big enough to have thousands of minimum wage workers, they make enough money to cover it. I doubt it'd really have much impact on me, so I really don't care.

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1. Veterans- blah blah... I respect em, greatful that they fought for our country, etc, but could really care less about any of their issues. mental health on returning from war? ok... well when you take a job where you're trained to kill people for a living, you'll probably see some pretty messed up shit at one point or another. either way, doesn't really matter to me.

2. Energy and environment- biodiesel, ethanol. again don't really care. my truck can run on E85 but I hear it sucks. I'd probably try it, but it's not any big deal to me. incentives for solar/wind energy might be interesting, but it's the government so it probably wouldn't ever be any incentives worth a shit. and carbon dioxide emissions? or do you mean monoxide? either way... doesn't really effect me so I don't care. I recycle cans & plastic bottles (erin got me doing it when she rented a room for me), but I only really do it bc it means less trips to the damn dumpster. either way, the issue doesn't strike me think some politician will change the world with it.

3. intelligence- check up on terrorists more... ok.. cool. i'm sure this is on any politician's list of todos. i don't really care much on this either. i mean yeah i dont want to be attacked, but what kind of glorious difference is some bill or politician going to make that "puts up the terrorist shield" and makes us invicible?

sorry to make such a long post and seem so pessimistic, I just don't really see elections as all that meaningful. They talk on the news about all this big change and what they're gonna do. gimme a break. nothing ever changes for us that much.
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post Nov 8 2006, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Nov 8 2006, 04:08 PM) *
What do you mean? Why would the safety of air travel be any different regarding 911? I know it seems obvious it would change but it really shouldn't have. I mean, over millions of flights, how many have crashed/been wrecked into buildings?


9/11 Should have never happened. Additionally, once something major like that happens, generally more are to follow because terrorists (I hate that word) see an opening. If we were to let our guard down again something would happen... thats just the world we live in. That doesnt mean we need to live in fear. It just means we need to use caution.

As far as crashes are concerned... many crashes happen when an air traffic controller fouls up. Its the most stressful job to have.... consolidating would be a terrible idea.
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post Nov 8 2006, 05:29 PM
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post Nov 8 2006, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 8 2006, 05:15 PM) *
9/11 Should have never happened. Additionally, once something major like that happens, generally more are to follow because terrorists (I hate that word) see an opening. If we were to let our guard down again something would happen... thats just the world we live in. That doesnt mean we need to live in fear. It just means we need to use caution.

well hell no i don't live in fear, but it's not like flying was ever unsafe. it was a tragedy yes, but we're still talkin about a few accidents/3 terrorist actions in how many million flights? flying is safer than driving your car. it was before and still is after 9/11.

QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 8 2006, 05:15 PM) *
As far as crashes are concerned... many crashes happen when an air traffic controller fouls up. Its the most stressful job to have.... consolidating would be a terrible idea.

i haven't done any research on the cause of all airplane crashes in the last ten years or so, but I'm not sure that "many" air traffic controllers are the cause of crashes. and although i don't know the details of the "consolidation" of air traffic controllers, i seriously doubt mustafa jihad of al-qaeda will be put in charge.
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post Nov 8 2006, 06:18 PM
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Some of the worst air disasters have occurred because of air traffic controller fatigue or stress (the Tenerife runway incursion comes to mind). There are other examples of this and usually they turn out to be some of the worst disasters because the aircraft are fully loaded with fuel.


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