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post Apr 6 2009, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 2 2009, 01:18 PM) *
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. All you have to do is take a few minutes to look at the companies' financials. It's definitely not for a lack of revenue (vehicle sales). If vehicle quality was any part of the reason for the domestic's financial troubles, then how is it they're still selling so many vehicles?


Its like the refinary. You have a base cost, and a cost per production. They still sell alot of cars, its that its not as much as they used to with the same lines with the same base cost. You could be making a shit load of sales and still losing money like Sir Richard Branson.


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post Apr 6 2009, 11:21 PM
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That's exactly my point. It's not the quality it's the operating costs that are killing them.
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post Apr 7 2009, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Mar 31 2009, 06:59 PM) *
Hence I said HAD... And he doesn't own a GM truck anymore... So he HAD one too. Guess you both were driving around klankers.


Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .....

I own a 2005 Chevrolet 2500 HD with the 8.1L/Allison combo ..... unsure.gif


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post Apr 7 2009, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ Mar 31 2009, 09:02 PM) *
I know. But speaking for myself and most people I know who've owned GM, all of us switched to European/Jap and for good reason. Better gas mileage, better build quality, and last 1.5x as long as American garbage


You are a fucking IDIOT if you think Nissan or Toyota builds better trucks than GM or Ford.

The reason your GM fell apart is because you're too dumb to realize you can't rod the shit out of a pickup and have it last.

I have had no problems whatsoever with the last ... I don't know, six or seven Chevy trucks I've had, and I gaurentee I use them _WAY_ more than you ever used yours.


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post Apr 7 2009, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 1 2009, 12:05 PM) *
How about this, for starters: JD Power & Associates 2008 Initial Quality Study

Let's look at the cars.



Porsche - German
Infiniti - Japanese
Lexus - Japanese
Mercedes-Benz - German
Toyota -Japanese
Mercury - US (Ford)
Honda - Japanese
Ford - US
Jaguar - British
Audi - German
Cadillac - US (GM)
Chevrolet - US (GM)
Hyundai - Korean
Pontiac - US (GM)
Lincoln - US (Ford)
Buick - US (GM)

Nah, it's not a comprehensive assessment of quality, but the top 10 is dominated by Japanese and German automakers, with a couple of appearances by Ford. It's not until #11 that you get to GM.


*YAWN* @ Magazine racing ...

Christine, really, how much time in different vehicles have you put in?

The BMW parked out back is the biggest peice of shit car I've ever seen in my life. I'd rather have a fucking Grand Am .... Seriously.

Those magazine reviews, such as that and consumer reports, are pure garbage ... they always have been.


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post Apr 7 2009, 06:09 PM
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Personally I think it's amazing and a tribute to US engineering that US automobiles are as good as they are given the severe quality conrol handicap *cough unions cough* they have with respect to their foreign counterparts ....


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post Apr 7 2009, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 7 2009, 07:04 PM) *
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .....

I own a 2005 Chevrolet 2500 HD with the 8.1L/Allison combo ..... unsure.gif

For some reason I thought you had a Dodge. Were you looking at a RAM at one point while looking for a new truck?
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post Apr 7 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Apr 7 2009, 06:10 PM) *
For some reason I thought you had a Dodge. Were you looking at a RAM at one point while looking for a new truck?


I have never even considered buying a Dodge truck in my entire life.


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post Apr 8 2009, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 7 2009, 09:19 PM) *
I have never even considered buying a Dodge truck in my entire life.
I didn't think that sounded like something you would do cause Rams suck, but for some reason I remember thinking "what the hell was he thinking?" hmmm... maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
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