Scientists discuss possible cold fusion breakthrough

Thoughts?

pretty convienient when put into context of our current situation.

(going for a very summerized version of my thoughts, for those people with short attention spans)

you can't really introduce a entirely new energy system when everything and everyone is so dependant on fossil fuels. so many jobs depend on it, companies, politians special interests, etc... unless you created the just-right circumstances.

1. secretly find new energy source

2. create an unstable situation to panic the populace so that they will vote in a moron who promises more than he can deliver.

3. populace is freaked by the crisis, will allow just about anything to be passed if it promises to fix the situation.

4. said moron spends 9 trillion, among which will be cleverly laundered programs for future agenda, impossible to trace and track easily.

5. the new energy source is miraculously discovered just in the nick of time, populace rejoices, populace is now the driving force to push the necessary buttons to speed the change. (instead of being the most threatening opposing force to the change)

6. complete chaos in the job market as people play a game of "musical chairs" to secure their new place among society. (of course the opportunist's who engineered this entire operation are already poised to legal take their seats in said game.)

7.????

8. profit

plan = fail.

but kudos for the fear-mongering.

i forgo to add the tinfoil hat picture

a. Do you not think that a whole new industry would arise from fusion energy? One that would require employees? Our whole electrical grid would have to be modified no doubt if people are suddenly using double the electricity that they used to. Not to mention places for people to plug their cars in... I dunno.. everywhere?

b. Do you think that this discovery instantly kills off all fossil fuel use? Somehow I doubt electric jetliners or semi trucks or construction equipment and such are anywhere near a possibility yet. Not to mention all of the refining still needed for the other 23572305892730 uses we have for fossil fuels (uh... plastic maybe? lubricants, and 2375283957235 other chemicals).

People transition jobs out of old technologies all the time. With cell phones taking over landline phones and more and more communications going through automation, there's tons of old men out there who were POTS line experts who either had to catch up with the latest technology or get left behind. TV repair used to be a big industry, with a shop on every other corner, now people just buy a new one when theirs breaks. Auto mechanics used to make money doing tune-ups back in the day but now with computer controlled cars it's no longer necessary. When the shuttle program is complete next year, there will be on the order of like 15,000 jobs at nasa lost, but then at the same time the constellation program will be ramping up hiring. Sure you lose some people in transition but it's not like those jobs are instantly lost all in the same day and those people have nowhere to go. It won't be any different transitioning from fossil fuel based energy over to nuclear. The only people with any real worry are all the towelheads in the desert who sell all the oil. They'll realize they should have saved & invested while they were ahead rather than building lavish buildings and indoor ski resorts in the middle of the desert.

i guess sarcasm is lost on you. but now that you mention it, think how big of a change that it would be. kinda hard to transition easily when your entire intrastructure is changing and resorting it's self.

mmk.. you're wrong so you claim sarcasm... you might as well add a ", dumbass" to the end of your post.

and yeah, oh my it'd be soo difficult to transition to fusion power. man, those companies who take hold on it would have to hire people just to wheelbarrow the money around. people might even hurt their backs trying to deal with the mountains of money ready to be made by an entirely new source of energy. man that'd be stressful.

you're apparently the master of sarcasm so hopefully you understood that one.

you're the wack-job who can't understand human psychology. i thought it was a given that everyone understood how much resistance the populace would have against change. you'd have to drag people kicking and screaming into cold fusion even if it IS in their better interest and will help them in the long run.

but if you scare them.... you no longer have to drag them across the river, you cause a stampede in the direction you want the sheep to go.

then again, we can't expect you to understand the simpliest of truths about humans. hell, you can't even get a girlfriend. you might as well be an alien

why on earth would you possibly believe the populace would resist a vast new energy source?

also why on earth do you think i give two shits about your piddly junior high cut downs? is it that difficult for you to have an adult conversation or debate?

it's funny how you pull the "debate" card when you're the one being insulted for once.

and i absolutely refuse to try to explain to you why all the workers and families who currently depend on gas and oil production for employment whould balk at the idea of dropping everything to learn a new trade... or how higher up people with everything invested in fuel might do everything possible to resist... if you can't understand that, then you really are an idiot. it's not an insult if it's the truth.

They would, but things that can easily be moved over would be. Gas cars and airplanes would cost too much to change over. Power plants, as long as they are not super expensive, would be a the first built.

For once? I don't insult anyone. It's you guys that insult me whenever you get caught saying something stupid or wrong. It's like a child who gets caught and then calls the person a doodoo head. And we are debating, how am I "pulling the debate" card??


The post I responded to had you saying this:
"I thought it was a given that everyone understood how much resistance the populace would have against change."
Oil industry workers hardly encompasses "the populace". You don't think the other 299 million Americans would enjoy and welcome cheaper energy???

vehicles. and everyone involved. power and gas for cities. everyone involved. it's not just oil field workers. everything and just about every business revolves in some way around gas and fuel.

Hmm

Everyone thinks Impala is an idiot, and Impala thinks everyone is an idiot.

Majority rules, sorry dude

well as chuck mentioned, vehicles wouldn't exactly be an overnight transition. not to mention the new vehicles will need virtually all the same infrastructure. service stations, places to charge up, mechanics, dealers, insurance, financing, etc.