He's proven that he doesn't have a clue... despite being a frikkin teacher?!?

I taught middle school as a sub Hutch in Lubbock and classes were never bigger than 22. My public school had small classes, mabye 20 max in Math.

just my 2 cents.

You're right. I'll go now.

In all actuality, the ratio is smaller than that. In most classrooms, especially in elementary schools, the students are separated out based on their abilities in that class. For instance, a 3rd grade reading class. Another teacher may have a class that is at lunch or on break so she will take a group of students and work with them in smaller groups, usually around 5-6 kids per teacher. They also have teacher aids that take groups. Yeah, they aren't certified teachers, but they are given specific instructions by the teacher on what to do during group time. They do this less in high schools, however, but I feel that is because at that age students are expected to pay attention better. They do it a lot with elementary math too. Sometimes even there are a couple of kids who are doing considerably poorer than the rest of the class, and they will have an extra math time, in a small group of 3-4 kids a couple times a week with another teacher. Usually it is during art or P.E. class. It's like a tutoring class, except that they also offer after school tutoring in addition to that. Trust me, the teacher student ratio is the least of public school's problems.

So are you calling James wrong?

James teaches in a high school or junior high. I have no problem with large classrooms at that age. Elementary schools have smaller class sizes. At least in the Lubbock, El Paso, and Savannah schools I have been in. The math class I was observing last week had 15 seats. Only 11 kids were in that class, and the other four were moved out for more focused group math class. They came back for AR reading since that is an individual task.

all of this is really really boring