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Nov 10 2008, 04:06 PM
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Nov 10 2008, 05:05 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
I think we need education but not in the state it's in today. Today's schooling kills the natural curiosity of the student and their will to learn. Students are taught to memorize answers for tests and not actual critical thinking and reasoning skills. I could have condensed all four years of my high school into two and learned a whole lot more and been whole lot better off. I didn't say to get rid of all government, but to invert it. The most power should rest with the local government and the least power should rest with the Federal government. Nowadays it's reversed. The Federal government's only tasks should be to coin money and protect the country from outside threats. We need to go back to what the founding fathers envisioned. I can assure you that any teacher that has started out having illusions of developing critical thinking and reasoning skills had the truth revealed within the first year. I don't think I have a single student that can memorize facts, let alone piece together facts to come up with a new idea. It's extremely frustrating. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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Nov 10 2008, 05:17 PM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
Who? Sorry HDT, his family supplemented his Walden life with food and goods. Read the unpolished version. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Nov 10 2008, 08:47 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
When I was in elementary school, I was taught under a curriculum known as the A Beka Program. It dealt with a high amount of memorization, and a lot of linking stuff together, like James referenced. If the program is instituted when the child is young, between the ages of 4 and 7, it works great. I never had trouble studying for a test. I found myself bored out of my mind in college because they were teaching us stuff I learned in junior high. The bad thing is, though, kids that came from a public school to my school did really poorly. They either failed completely and had to repeat the grade or they barely skated by with high D's and low C's. Memorization, reasoning, and critical thinking among students is a possibility, but only if we start it at the lowest level.
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Nov 10 2008, 09:59 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
When I was in elementary school, I was taught under a curriculum known as the A Beka Program. It dealt with a high amount of memorization, and a lot of linking stuff together, like James referenced. If the program is instituted when the child is young, between the ages of 4 and 7, it works great. I never had trouble studying for a test. I found myself bored out of my mind in college because they were teaching us stuff I learned in junior high. The bad thing is, though, kids that came from a public school to my school did really poorly. They either failed completely and had to repeat the grade or they barely skated by with high D's and low C's. Memorization, reasoning, and critical thinking among students is a possibility, but only if we start it at the lowest level. i mean no offense, but i don't really consider you a poster child for creative thought processes -------------------- |
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Nov 11 2008, 12:20 AM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
i mean no offense, but i don't really consider you a poster child for creative thought processes What qualifies you to make that judgement? Honestly, I imagine you lack any such qualifications which makes your opinion hollow and it's understandable why offense wouldn't be taken. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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Nov 11 2008, 01:58 AM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
I'd say I understand how the universe works pretty well, just can't remember certain specifics alot, like where are my keys!
-------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Nov 11 2008, 03:58 AM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
What qualifies you to make that judgement? Honestly, I imagine you lack any such qualifications which makes your opinion hollow and it's understandable why offense wouldn't be taken.
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Nov 11 2008, 09:13 AM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
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Nov 11 2008, 09:47 AM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
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Nov 11 2008, 09:54 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
A Beka is utter crap. It's worksheet-based rote dribble, with little to no critical thinking involved. IMO, they're more concerned with busywork than anything else. Also, the young earth creationist slant to their science textbooks is atrocious.
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Nov 11 2008, 09:59 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
A Beka is utter crap. I used them from 4th-6th grade and it was a total brain drain. The young earth creationist slant to their science textbooks didn't help any. I think the early A Beka books are good for those learning to read and spell, anything past that and I don't see the usefulness. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Nov 11 2008, 10:05 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
I think the early A Beka books are good for those learning to read and spell, anything past that and I don't see the usefulness. Possibly so. To be fair, the Seton curriculum we used after A Beka wasn't much better. The only benefit I saw was that Seton allowed us to mix and match grade levels for subjects (so I was in advanced math, for instance), whereas A Beka didn't allow that at the time. Guh... as much I view homeschooling as a positive thing, most of the prepackaged curriculums out there have severe drawbacks. -------------------- |
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Nov 11 2008, 10:19 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
Possibly so. To be fair, the Seton curriculum we used after A Beka wasn't much better. The only benefit I saw was that Seton allowed us to mix and match grade levels for subjects (so I was in advanced math, for instance), whereas A Beka didn't allow that at the time. Guh... as much I view homeschooling as a positive thing, most of the prepackaged curriculums out there have severe drawbacks. I agree. I was homeschooled for a good portion of my younger years and always found that I moved ahead in certain areas and fell behind in others but the curriculum did not really match or allow for change. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Nov 11 2008, 10:24 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 64 |
what the heck are you guys talking about? Is this a texas thing?
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