i agree with you on this. but i think the best way to pacify them would be with a liberal dose of police brutality

Cat, the proposal reads:

not:


it's hilarious to me that you make fun of this just because it's from mccain

i know what it says... i dont see what your point is.

my original post still stands

im not making fun of this just because its mccain. im making fun of it because there are already super small, super efficient/powerful hybrid/electric batteries for cars that are years before their time. hey its nice he wants to see even better ones i guess, but like inferia said - its all gimicky.

but as far as pacifying the environmentalists. if that was part of this PR shindig it wasnt that smartest. most environmentalists are probably well versed in EVs and know where the industry is going

Actually, the battery is still the issue with the hybrid vehicles. They are inefficient to produce considering their output. I believe I read yesterday that there is a 3-4 month wait list for a brand new Prius right now, but the wait is going to get worse because Toyota is maxed out on the number of batteries they are allowed to produce this year. At least that's the way I understood the article.

youd have to post your source on that. havent heard anything about it. 1 reason why the wait list for the prius is long is because everyone and their mother is buying one


but i know they arent maxed out because they are still building them and soon releasing the 09s

to get vehicles that are more efficient than what is currently available.


your original post is on its knees slobbin on mccain's knob


yeah, there's already electric cars that aren't getting purchased. you know why they aren't getting purchased? the best plugin cars can go like 180 miles on a charge, and don't carry shit. have fun driving to dallas... in like 16 hrs since you're going to have to stop and charge somewhere.


how is it gimicky? i see it as no different from the x-prize competition.


i couldnt give to shits about what environmentalists think and i doubt he does either. you think you have to be some damn environmentalist to give a shit about gas prices and efficiency? you think he or anyone else who likes the idea really gives a shit about the whales or trees? they give a shit about their WALLET. as do I.

I'm looking for the article now. It may have been a CNN video I watched. Well, that's a stupid thing to say. Thank you, captain obvious.

jesus christ dude - CHECK YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE. maybe the internet isnt the best place for your health


EVs are in huge demand. when the volt was out they had to screen people OUT because the demand was so high. and EVs are more efficient then you think


edit: so are you going to post the source?

124/73


I have yet to see ONE, and I drive 70 miles/day in the 4th largest city in the country.


so they can't be more efficient? we should just stop and say "hmm, we've perfected the electric vehicle."?

GM took back all their volts and smushed them. something that pissed off the entire world. now GM is having to own up for their actions and is re-releasing their Volt. due partially to high demand and need. i know people that are trying to already put down deposits for the car that hasnt even shown in autoshows yet


how much does the average person know about EV? should be waaaaaaaaay higher



way of the future!

so... what does this have to do with mccain's proposal?

Here is the video I was talking about, Cathryn

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/0...ref=videosearch

About 3/4ths of the way through the video, she says what I was talking about.

because its related to EVs and you made a misinformed statement about existing EVs.


EVs are related to his proposal because it is concerning EV


(electric vehicles = EVs)

Its gimmicky in the same way Obama is. Anyone knows that we haven't found a source with a high coulomb capacitance (Higher the number, more electrons/lb)

I think it's funny that I can actually back up what I say with sources. Cathryn, on the other hand, just lets her fingers do the talking and can't back up a single thing she types. She even asked me to source something I said, and I can. She never sources shit.