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post May 1 2008, 11:00 PM
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I almost invested in a gun, but then I got pregnant. I don't ever want a gun in my home with a child there.
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post May 1 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ May 1 2008, 09:56 PM) *
so it would have to be aborted within the womb, dead, and then removed for it to be ok? or would you say that taking the baby out and then killing it is ok?


semantics....
i believe that an abortion, up until the latest stages possible to legally perform, and performed correctly, is not considered taking a life.

if i agreed earlier that killing a child (stabbing it after it's removed or whatever sarcasm impala tossed around earlier) outside of a legal abortion is fine, i was simply being sarcastic in return.


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post May 1 2008, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 2 2008, 12:02 AM) *
semantics....
i believe that an abortion, up until the latest stages possible to legally perform, and performed correctly, is not considered taking a life.

if i agreed earlier that killing a child (stabbing it after it's removed or whatever sarcasm impala tossed around earlier) outside of a legal abortion is fine, i was simply being sarcastic in return.
i didnt see that post. i skimmed through this thread. I was just basing it off of the one post i quoted and the reply you just gave. heh
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post May 1 2008, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 30 2008, 07:39 PM) *
yes i have been to england. i did not get beaten up by a gang of wayward teens nor do i know anyone who had. their homicide rate is waaaaaay lower than the US even after taking into consideration population differences. guess those beating to death cases arent all that prevalent. but my beliefs in stricter gun laws and taking away citizens guns all together arent just about murder rates. probably the smallest reason for my beliefs as people can interpret the statistics differently

the health system is great in europe as i have a significant number of family members who live there full time who have experiences with it as well as my parents

visiting the Uk and europe for a month or two and all the sudden youre an expert?! hope to god you didnt pick up a fake accent as well

In Canada, one of my relatives got passed up for a transplant for a government official. In Canada there are two systems, the private and public.

Can't say I remember much about Europe.


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post May 2 2008, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 1 2008, 11:47 PM) *
exactly not everyone knows how they will react in that situation so you cant say all would shoot someone to death. im willing to bet, as ive heard of it before, that people/cops freeze up when they have to shoot. i know i would have an incredibly hard time shooting a gun, killing a person and i do not know how id face myself after taking someones life


believe it or not, i have this viewpoint. i don't want to shoot anybody. i never have. i've been given legal opportunities in the past while at the clubs, but i haven't taken them. it wasn't a matter of freezing up, but i don't want to keep thinking in my mind there might have been another way if i did kill someone.

but i want that gun with me. if there IS NO OPTION LEFT. i would take the gun and end someone, rather than let them end me. and then i would live with a clear mind.

i do not believe that anyone who truelly wants to kill someone should ever be allowed to own a gun.
but you can't legistate that effectively.


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post May 2 2008, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 1 2008, 09:51 AM) *
i wouldn't have a gun. period. if by some reason one was within my reach, i can throw things pretty hard. otherwise, fight to survive by other means. if i die, which would probably happen, then i die. i'm cool with that. i'm not afraid of death. that's no way to live. not sure how i would handle the afterthought of knowing i took another human's life though.

like i said in the other thread, you guys act like your life takes place in a Steven Seagal movie or something. need to be armed and ready for chaos at all times. alpha male. git r dun.

ha, why do conservatives always try to relate abortion with gun control?
i'm pro-choice. life isn't life until it's out of the womb. imo.
an abortion at 8 months, to me, is like removing a kidney.

I would say you are an idiot. I value my life and those I love over a stranger that was trying to kill me. At 8 months the baby could live outside the womb, so that isn't comparable to a kidney. I can easily justify killing someone who's intent is it to kill me, at 8 months the baby has no evil intent. People will justify their position to themselves always, even if its asinine.


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post May 2 2008, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 1 2008, 01:26 PM) *
has a smoke detector ever killed anyone?

bad wiring?


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post May 2 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 1 2008, 08:14 PM) *
like poverty there will always be criminals. shooting them all is not a solution. but yes i do focus on the social issues that decrease crime and criminal behavior i thought you guys were the ones that didnt believe in that

and there will always be weapons.








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post May 2 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE (chook @ May 2 2008, 01:07 AM) *
People will justify their position to themselves always, even if its asinine.
most powerful statement in this thread
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post May 2 2008, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 1 2008, 11:57 PM) *
we are never on the same page. so you are saying the world is filled with violent criminals therefore you need a gun? and you arent paranoid...

I'm saying (just as you helped me point out) that people are violent whether they have guns or not.
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post May 2 2008, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE (chook @ May 1 2008, 11:07 PM) *
I would say you are an idiot. I value my life and those I love over a stranger that was trying to kill me. At 8 months the baby could live outside the womb, so that isn't comparable to a kidney. I can easily justify killing someone who's intent is it to kill me, at 8 months the baby has no evil intent. People will justify their position to themselves always, even if its asinine.

great. you're not an idiot for having that opinion. i don't happen to share it.
some people get their feelings hurt too easily.

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post May 2 2008, 08:49 AM
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/5748085.html

More info on this guy comes out.

Why would a CIA agent need a carry/conceal license?


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post May 2 2008, 09:04 AM
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weird. why would you impersonate a cia officer just to seemingly "fit in."
i'm reading through the comments. no one else seems to know anything either.


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post May 2 2008, 09:24 AM
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They talked about it on the news last night with a real former CIA agent. He pretty much told them there's not a chance in hell you'll ever find out if someone was really in the CIA in a case like this.
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post May 2 2008, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2008, 08:54 AM) *
I'm saying (just as you helped me point out) that people are violent whether they have guns or not.

yeah im not arguing against that. whats your point. that doesnt make my belief in anti-guns any more silly

chook you are a catholic that said before you wouldnt date a girl if she wasnt pro-life. i dont think you are unbiased on this abortion issue. an opinion about being pro-choice isnt wrong


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