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Apr 23 2008, 02:40 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
my boyfriend works in the oil industry and they TOLD him the supply at the growing rate of use will run out in 50 years. ive also heard that. thats probably a pretty big reason these oil companies are now going oh fuck! and putting resources into developing alternatives (like exxon, shell, chevron, el paso etc) any company that survives solely on oil whether they refine, drill, explore, or service is already in trouble or heading there I really beg to differ on that ... who is he working for, an oil company or a service company just outta curiosity? The single reason I don't think we're ever truly going to "run out" of oil is because in any given reservoir, you're lucky if you can recover %10 of what is estimated to be in place there with current technology. That number used to be lower, and for a lot of unconventional reservoirs that are being produced today, that number is less ... we didn't even have the technology 20 years ago to produce in some of the places we are now. I really fail to see how we're going to just stop inventing new technology ... as the technology progresses, so does the amount of oil and gas you can produce. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Apr 23 2008, 03:00 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
I really beg to differ on that ... who is he working for, an oil company or a service company just outta curiosity? The single reason I don't think we're ever truly going to "run out" of oil is because in any given reservoir, you're lucky if you can recover %10 of what is estimated to be in place there with current technology. That number used to be lower, and for a lot of unconventional reservoirs that are being produced today, that number is less ... we didn't even have the technology 20 years ago to produce in some of the places we are now. I really fail to see how we're going to just stop inventing new technology ... as the technology progresses, so does the amount of oil and gas you can produce. We're not. 10 years ago we were lucky if we could get 40% out of well, now we're upwards of 60-75%. Who knows where we'll be in 10 more years. And the number of exploration finds is growing as the technology gets better. One of the largest projects in offshore drilling should start pumping in the next few weeks. The most recent oil price increases have a lot to do with a crappy dollar, poor futures trading, and worrisome investors. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Apr 23 2008, 03:04 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
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Apr 23 2008, 03:05 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Not to give anecdotal info, but my buddy's dad is pretty "in the know" at Exxon and says prices are supposed to be coming back down.
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Apr 23 2008, 03:13 PM
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![]() POTATO OLES Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Newark, NJ Member No.: 17 |
I really beg to differ on that ... who is he working for, an oil company or a service company just outta curiosity? The single reason I don't think we're ever truly going to "run out" of oil is because in any given reservoir, you're lucky if you can recover %10 of what is estimated to be in place there with current technology. That number used to be lower, and for a lot of unconventional reservoirs that are being produced today, that number is less ... we didn't even have the technology 20 years ago to produce in some of the places we are now. I really fail to see how we're going to just stop inventing new technology ... as the technology progresses, so does the amount of oil and gas you can produce. That is pretty much the stance they had. They stated that with current technology and usage increasing as it is, that the known and projected future reserves would last 50 years. Therefore, their goal is to develop the technology to get the 80-90% that's left in the well. -------------------- death to false dudes
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Apr 23 2008, 03:16 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Well it's honestly kinda pointless to make a 50 year prediction based on current technology.
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Apr 23 2008, 03:16 PM
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![]() Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Not to give anecdotal info, but my buddy's dad is pretty "in the know" at Exxon and says prices are supposed to be coming back down. When? By how much? Seriously wanting to know this...fucking hell I want to stop getting my ass reamed every time I get fuel. -------------------- |
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Apr 23 2008, 03:18 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
When? By how much? Seriously wanting to know this...fucking hell I want to stop getting my ass reamed every time I get fuel. I'll try and pick his brain next time I see him. He told me about it when I mentioned jobs at various other companies. He said don't go to work for Valero, that they're grossly over-hiring/over-spending and that when the prices go back down there will be mass layoffs. |
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Apr 23 2008, 03:37 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
Not to give anecdotal info, but my buddy's dad is pretty "in the know" at Exxon and says prices are supposed to be coming back down. And the stupid fucking media is scaring the shit out of people by saying that prices are expected to be between $3.80 and $4.00/ gal in June.
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Apr 23 2008, 03:41 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
well we're not all that far off from that now... hell diesel is $4 right now.
heh I didn't see much change... I just changed from every tank 93 octane to every 2-3 tanks. price stayed the same |
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Apr 23 2008, 04:12 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I noticed a big difference. *shrug*
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Apr 23 2008, 09:14 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
When? By how much? Seriously wanting to know this...fucking hell I want to stop getting my ass reamed every time I get fuel. This is being speculated all over. Prices are expected to drop back down to $3 or less. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Apr 23 2008, 09:23 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
for how long. i think thats the important question
-------------------- Little monkeys making money
Naked monkey looking funny Mighty males are strong and free Female monkey, not so lucky Rocking monkeys, funky monkeys Monkeys sticking other monkeys Monkeys wrong or monkeys right Mostly flexing monkey might |
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Apr 23 2008, 09:46 PM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
so where are we gonna grow hemp? I know in Nebraska they go around and cut it down about every 2 months. That would be roadside service I'll try and pick his brain next time I see him. He told me about it when I mentioned jobs at various other companies. He said don't go to work for Valero, that they're grossly over-hiring/over-spending and that when the prices go back down there will be mass layoffs. Of course he is going to say that. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Apr 23 2008, 11:34 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
Good read ... I guess it's really an issue that's so complicated with so many variables, it's really true to say "we will only know when production peaked in retrospect" ... It's kinda scary to look at the trend from Saudi Arabia ... in 2000, oil was $20 a barrel .... in 2004, it was $50 a barrel ... Saudi Arabie was increasing supply to try to stabilize prices, then in 2006 they said they could no longer do so, indicating they were literally producing as much as they were able to produce. Who knows, maybe I should have gone to work building wind turbines and hydrogen fuel cells instead of working in the oilfield -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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