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Mar 11 2008, 02:10 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
Stop blaspheming against Jesus.
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Apr 6 2008, 11:29 AM
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#122
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I was watching 60 Minutes last week, and they had Al Gore on. At one point they were talking about his $300 million ad campaign on Climate Change, he said that most people in this country believe in climate change, that people's opinion on this matter is like knowing the world is flat. Part of me finds that kind of hard to believe. I go to a fairly liberal school, and most of my friends are on the climate change train (except for one, but he's the only Republican I am friends with, at least that I know of). Anyway, I've read plenty on this board and else where regarding climate change, I feel like it is certainly not true that a vast majority of the people in this country believe that climate change is real and human made.
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Apr 6 2008, 11:52 AM
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#123
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
this board is not a very good scope of the "average person". i believe the majority in america believe in it
look how popular hybrid vehicles are and all these ad campaigns for protecting the environment. it wouldnt be such a huge issue in this election is the majority of americans didnt care. bush wouldnt have admitted he believed in climate change if he wasnt losing big support over the issue -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Apr 6 2008, 07:20 PM
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this board is not a very good scope of the "average person". i believe the majority in america believe in it look how popular hybrid vehicles are and all these ad campaigns for protecting the environment. it wouldnt be such a huge issue in this election is the majority of americans didnt care. bush wouldnt have admitted he believed in climate change if he wasnt losing big support over the issue I highly doubt most people buy hybrids because they're eco-friendly. They buy them because of the gas prices -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Apr 6 2008, 07:24 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
im on a few prius forums and i cant think of a single poster that isnt an environmentalist. but thats just one point. i think the general awareness expressed by people, in the media and by our politicians is the biggest indicator of mainstream feelings
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Apr 6 2008, 07:31 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
im on a few prius forums and i cant think of a single poster that isnt a trendy tofu eating yuppy scumfuck psuedoenvironmentalist. but thats just one point. i think the general awareness expressed by people, in the media and by our politicians is the biggest indicator of mainstream feelings fixed -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Apr 6 2008, 07:34 PM
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im on a few prius forums and i cant think of a single poster that isnt an environmentalist. but thats just one point. i think the general awareness expressed by people, in the media and by our politicians is the biggest indicator of mainstream feelings When hybrids were introduced I'm sure most people who bought them were environmentalists. When did they debut, five or six years ago? In 2002 gas was about $1.40/gallon. Now it's $3.30/gallon. For the first time in my life at least, gas prices are adversely affecting how I drive and what car I buy in the next few months. I support anything that helps the environment, but I think people are/will start to buy hybrids for economical reasons before they buy them for environmental reasons -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Apr 6 2008, 07:35 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,329 Joined: 20-June 07 Member No.: 1,243 |
i think the general awareness expressed by people, in the media and by our politicians is the biggest indicator of mainstream feelings Are you actually being serious? -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Apr 6 2008, 08:25 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
Are you actually being serious? i was laughing at that too.... and then i realised it was cathryn speaking, and i don't think she's joking. -------------------- |
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Apr 6 2008, 08:32 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
do you think global climate change and the environment would be such a big issue in this upcoming election if the general public didnt care?
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Apr 6 2008, 09:20 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Cat, what if the climate started showing a trend towards massive global cooling? Would you change any of your positions?
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Apr 6 2008, 09:34 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
if that became the leading theory of climate/global researchers and i read about it then most definitely it would change some of my ideas. but wouldnt change my ideas about the importance of alternative energy and conservation
(i know whats coming so ill just say it now - but its not the leading theory etc etc ) -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Apr 7 2008, 08:27 AM
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Cat, what if the climate started showing a trend towards massive global cooling? Would you change any of your positions? It's called global climate change now for a reason... -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Apr 7 2008, 09:11 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I wasn't going to say that, was just curious. Although don't take it personally if I don't go to you if I'm looking for what the "leading theory" in anything is
The only thing I will really agree with is that we need to find alternative sources of energy. I'm just sick of hearing from all the treehuggers who seem to think they'll change the entire planet in one swift stroke. Making a vehicle get 30mpg rather than 18-20 isn't going to change anything. I recall some commercial that said something like "If all cars got 30mpg+ it'd be like taking 1 million cars off the road." Sounds great right? Well there's ~200 million cars in the US, so there's a whopping 0.5% change in car pollution. Moving to completely electric cars might help, but not until we can generate clean electricity. Which I think will happen, but not next year like the treehuggers want. Until 100% clean, 100% renewable, extremely cheap electricity is developed, there will be pollution. If I had to guess or bet when this happens, I'd say some time in the next 50 years. But in the meantime, the smog layer around major metro cities is not going to diminish because you reduce car pollution output by 0.5%. |
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Apr 7 2008, 09:29 AM
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I wasn't going to say that, was just curious. Although don't take it personally if I don't go to you if I'm looking for what the "leading theory" in anything is The only thing I will really agree with is that we need to find alternative sources of energy. I'm just sick of hearing from all the treehuggers who seem to think they'll change the entire planet in one swift stroke. Making a vehicle get 30mpg rather than 18-20 isn't going to change anything. I recall some commercial that said something like "If all cars got 30mpg+ it'd be like taking 1 million cars off the road." Sounds great right? Well there's ~200 million cars in the US, so there's a whopping 0.5% change in car pollution. Moving to completely electric cars might help, but not until we can generate clean electricity. Which I think will happen, but not next year like the treehuggers want. Until 100% clean, 100% renewable, extremely cheap electricity is developed, there will be pollution. If I had to guess or bet when this happens, I'd say some time in the next 50 years. But in the meantime, the smog layer around major metro cities is not going to diminish because you reduce car pollution output by 0.5%. hehe, you must not know many in-the-know treehuggers... The climate change campaign is pretty much an overhaul of the way we live and produce things. Al Gore's new we campaign website. -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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