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Feb 27 2008, 12:20 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
So as I posted before, I'm taking Desrosiers for CS 1412. He's a dick.
Each week in lab we have a quiz. And the questions are usually either based on sheer memorization and usually pretty stupid. Last time in lab, the question was to write a program in PEN AND PAPER to use a SortedList (a generic class in C#) to do some stuff. No access to the book or MSDN either. He didn't cover it in lecture, it isn't in the assigned reading, but it was in a set of code samples he gave us (among 10 other samples). When the TA passed the quiz around, I saw a look of puzzlement amongst my fellow students. Apparently, I wasn't the only one who had no clue what to do here. In fact, literally half the lab cheated and looked things up on MSDN while the TA wasn't looking. I didn't, but I don't really blame the students that did. Each week, the quiz is something more ridiculous than the one before it. And every time the quiz grades come back terrible, he blames us and tells us we need to read more. Does anyone have any advice for me here? I could talk to Desrosiers, but I honestly don't know that it would do any good. Has anyone had much luck going over their professor's head and talking to the dept chair or anything of that nature? -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Feb 27 2008, 12:26 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
So as I posted before, I'm taking Desrosiers for CS 1412. He's a dick. Each week in lab we have a quiz. And the questions are usually either based on sheer memorization and usually pretty stupid. Last time in lab, the question was to write a program in PEN AND PAPER to use a SortedList (a generic class in C#) to do some stuff. No access to the book or MSDN either. He didn't cover it in lecture, it isn't in the assigned reading, but it was in a set of code samples he gave us (among 10 other samples). When the TA passed the quiz around, I saw a look of puzzlement amongst my fellow students. Apparently, I wasn't the only one who had no clue what to do here. In fact, literally half the lab cheated and looked things up on MSDN while the TA wasn't looking. I didn't, but I don't really blame the students that did. Each week, the quiz is something more ridiculous than the one before it. And every time the quiz grades come back terrible, he blames us and tells us we need to read more. Does anyone have any advice for me here? I could talk to Desrosiers, but I honestly don't know that it would do any good. Has anyone had much luck going over their professor's head and talking to the dept chair or anything of that nature? Take an example of the quiz and the assigned reading list to them maybe? -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 27 2008, 12:44 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
D is one of those asshats who has about zero real world experience. Making CS students take quizzes and tests about specific code and such without access to references is downright stupid. If I didn't have internet access or MSDN, or at least some books, I'd be absolutely worthless to my company.
That said, I do feel that pseudocode tests and such are very good. Honestly, the only professors there I had for CS/EE classes that had good real world experience that brought that to the classroom, was Dr Helm (mostly EE now I think, taught my CS ADP class), and Dr Cooke (duh). |
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Feb 27 2008, 12:53 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
D is one of those asshats who has about zero real world experience. Making CS students take quizzes and tests about specific code and such without access to references is downright stupid. If I didn't have internet access or MSDN, or at least some books, I'd be absolutely worthless to my company. Exactly. I hated this. In the "real world" we use whatever resources we can find. The ability to gather and sift through information is a great skill. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 27 2008, 01:04 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 2 |
I'm glad I got out of there before Desrosiers started teaching in the department
i've heard the horror stories |
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Feb 27 2008, 01:11 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
He started teaching in the department long before you got out of there.
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Feb 27 2008, 01:45 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 2 |
all i know is i didn't have to take him for 1412/1413 which back then it was 1462/1463
i almost ended up taking him for scientific computing as a senior until i came to my senses, and i thought he was new to the department then cause i had never heard of him |
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Feb 28 2008, 12:01 AM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
Dr D is a former ChemE and a jerk. He applies how you deal with ChemE to CS.
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Mar 6 2008, 12:14 AM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
He is a lool.
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Mar 18 2008, 10:47 PM
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![]() KP Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 45 |
easy. transfer out of tech and get some real education.
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Mar 18 2008, 11:15 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Yeah because there aren't asshole professors at other universities. What a stupid fuckin thing to say.
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Mar 19 2008, 12:23 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,329 Joined: 20-June 07 Member No.: 1,243 |
easy. transfer out of tech and get some real education. Judging from your constant assault on the English language, I can tell whatever school you transferred to was stellar academically -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 19 2008, 06:18 PM
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![]() KP Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 45 |
I'm sorry. I graduated from Tech and now pursuing grad study else where. Although tech has some good professors, from my personal experience, there are better educational experiences one can have by transferring out of tech and going to other places. I am glad I got out. Simply because I am learning something more exciting than regurgitating materials without clear understanding of first principles, which lots of department at tech do in their academic curricula.
if you aren't happy with what I said, deal with it. don't weagle off 'ye who don't spak engrish need to shut your hole' card at me. -------------------- www.twitter.com/qhfxm
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Mar 20 2008, 08:38 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I'm sorry. I graduated from Tech and now pursuing grad study else where. Although tech has some good professors, from my personal experience, there are better educational experiences one can have by transferring out of tech and going to other places. I am glad I got out. Simply because I am learning something more exciting than regurgitating materials without clear understanding of first principles, which lots of department at tech do in their academic curricula. if you aren't happy with what I said, deal with it. don't weagle off 'ye who don't spak engrish need to shut your hole' card at me. How about you don't get your panties in a wad when you get razzed after dissing Texas Tech on a fucking Texas Tech message board full of Texas Tech students & graduates. mmmk? |
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Mar 20 2008, 10:31 AM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I'm sorry. I graduated from Tech and now pursuing grad study else where. Although tech has some good professors, from my personal experience, there are better educational experiences one can have by transferring out of tech and going to other places. I am glad I got out. Simply because I am learning something more exciting than regurgitating materials without clear understanding of first principles, which lots of department at tech do in their academic curricula. elsewhere is 1 word
if you aren't happy with what I said, deal with it. don't weagle off 'ye who don't spak engrish need to shut your hole' card at me. |
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