only if they were your rats.

oh, so its ok to kill an animal if it has a less developed brain. hmm.... wonder if dogs have a less developed brain than humans... hmm... now who's being hypocritical...

when did i say that?

spiders dont even really have a brain nor do they have a pain impulse. so how is that like a dog or a human? and i never said i go out to kill all the insects i can

(btw the dog brain is virtually identical to ours)

you are the one that said you wouldnt have a problem throwing a mammal off a cliff. youre the one with the problem, paco

You implied that it's ok to kill spiders because they don't have brains as developed as other animals.


spiders definitely have a brain. i don't know if they feel pain or not, but see that as pretty irrelevant on deciding whether or not its ok to kill them


I never said spiders were like dogs or humans.


I never said you did.


Then how come they haven't invented the wheel, learned how to create fire, and rival us for control of the planet?


where in the flyin fuck did I ever say I wouldn't have a problem throwing a mammal off a cliff??? what I DO have a problem with is all the animal rights dumbasses who are just about as hypocritical as it gets. They protect all the warm fuzzy cutesy animals but I sure as hell don't see them out picketing the roach motel companies.

No Jessica, I am Billy, and your response was not intelligent enough to deserve a real reply. In fact, most of your stuff lately has made me somewhat ashamed of ever defending you in the past.

Basically, Aaron is right. Your whole tirade about me calling 1800's american blacks dogs was just too stupid for me to fathom. Especially when all I was doing was pointing out that both treating blacks as having no feelings and treating animals as having no feelings are equally evil. Nothing else. But typical of you to believe the blown out of proportioned version you created. And thus, you did not deserve my serious attention. I still stand by my feelings that writing dogs off as "stupid" is just as ignorant as writing black slaves off as "stupid". Seth clearly has no feelings for the animal, and that is why I called him primitive. Because there was a time when thinking there was no harm done if you killed a "stupid nigger", just as there are people today (including Seth) that believe there is no harm done if you kill "just a stupid dog". Both are appalling. And I really wonder what the hell is wrong with people who think that way.

And that might be confusing to you, because it seems Seth clearly claims he does not endorse such behavior. But lining his post with "stupid dog" is quite counter to that. I think it is absolutely disgusting that Seth places more value on this guy's "retirement and military benefits" than the "stupid dog". How do I know he places more value? Try actually reading next time if you don't know the answer to that. "I think it sucks that...." I personally don't think it sucks. I think he deserves to lose more than that because of the "stupid dog". He deserves severe punishment for such cruelty. And no amount of calling me a moron will change that.

As for impala, nigga please. Arguing with you is almost as bad as arguing with a high school kid. I can rest soundly knowing you will never breed and that should really make you sad. I do have a message board I frequent that consistently has intelligent debate. Techsans is not that forum. And so it doesn't matter to me whether *you* think I'm a moron or not. There are enough people in the real world around me whom think otherwise that your opinion is dwarfed by the massive number of opinions who believe opposite. However, it does make me feel better that such an imbecile believes I'm a moron, as imbeciles rarely make good judgement.

You should really think about things Impala. Maybe it isn't your fat that keeps the touch of a woman from your body. Maybe it's your backwards beliefs. And so I think there is some benefit to learning to debate and understand, rather than critique. But then again, what good is advice from someone immensely successful in all aspects of his life, right?

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Once again, showing extreme weakness by attacking a person and not presenting any rebuttal or pertinent information.


Oh really? Do you personally insult those people, tell them they'll never breed, and use the phrase "nigga please" all the time on this "intelligent" forum you frequent?


I fail to see anything in this or any thread where I directly called you or even implied that you're a moron. But hey, believe whatever you want.


Thanks for more personal insults. "Intelligent" debate at its finest.


And which backwards beliefs would those be? Since you seem to know so much about me.


I must have missed the page in the debate handbook that talks about how personally attacking your opponents instead of staying on the topic is means for victory.


This makes you sound extremely insecure bud. Perhaps perceptions of yourself to others is one aspect you have not been "immensely successful" in.

I couldn't help but laugh at this after reading some posts.

At first I was really really disgusted watching the video. But then I thought about the stresses of war and he must have just cracked. Cathryn, you may be able to answer this for me, but is there not a correlation between adults who abuse animals were more than likely abused as children? I thought I had heard that on Fox News the other night and heard it again on CNN a few hours later.

So you are NOT comparing black civil rights to being the very SAME as dog rights... even though they are ABOUT THE EXACT SAME LINE OF THINKING? The way we viewed BLACKS is the way we view DOGS isn't a comparison between the two??? Here's another thing you can do, call the dog's killing much like the killing of the Jews in the holocaust so you can get another group in there to insult.

And please explain mr. brain child how putting "stupid dog" equates to me ENDORSING the killing of it? If i said stupid billy (which i do), does that mean i would endorse the killing of you??? The answer is no. Apparently you are too "stupid" to understand that.

Obviously you think me saying its too bad this guy was a moron to (maybe) lose his benefits by being cruel bastard equals me ENDORSING his actions; so you are the one who isn't really comprehending. If you could even read correctly you would see i was saying i wish he HADN'T done the act so he would still be able to receive the benefits of his service in Iraq. To lose them over him feeding a cruel need to kill an ANIMAL is sad to me.

Here is my question to you, what if he had put his gun to the dog and just shot it? We do that to deer, coyotes, armadillos, possums, and hogs when we feel the "need" to. To me, the reason this is wrong is the motivation behind it, not what was killed. Hunters ran mammoths off cliffs to kill them in times of old, and dogs are "put down" all the time... but the intention wasn't one of cruelty. I do not condone his actions because of why he did them. But you are correct... i still do see it as a "stupid dog" because honestly... it IS just an animal. Im not for killing them, but im not exactly a bleeding heart that thinks they are the same as black people who were abused in the past.

Anyway, im gonna go eat a hamburger, beat my dogs, and kill a black person (maybe a jew) walking outside my apartment... since i endorse that and all.

Ok so now after 3 pages of arguing I'm sure most everyone forgot what the original statement in question was.

So here, in it's original glory, it is again.

I'm still confused about how you people are confused on what this says....heh

I hardly need defending, especially from someone like you. And I don't know where you get off making fun of Impala's weight, because you have become quite tubby tubby lately yourself. Go buy a treadmill or participate in some other active hobby so you can release that anger you have built up inside... and burn some calories.

again, like I said before... he is comparing the two. I don't know how you don't see that.

he's fat and angry because he's married

How many chins can you count?

He is saying that he does not understand how people, in modern times, do not regard dogs as "people" and think they are somehow a form of life low enough on the totem pole to "not matter". He then contrasts this with the fact that many people used to think of black people the same way as this.

HE is not comparing a black person to a dog, he's making the observation that many people used look at things this way, and that it's abhorrent.